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I suppose the absence of acceptance of gender fluidity is the warfare he’s referencing.

~Bella
I wouldn't define it that way - more like the absence of acceptance of each person's individuality and attempts to fit a person into a box they don't feel comfortable in. IOW....it's an attack on a person's spirit to try to mold them into something they know - in their spirit - they aren't.
 
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Welcome to GQ's New Masculinity issue, an exploration of the ways that traditional notions of masculinity are being challenged, overturned, and evolved.

Feature article with Pharrell on Evolving Masculinity and Spiritual Warfare

There were gender-fluid elements to the way you dressed long before it became a national conversation.

It started with the “I can pull that off” thing. I wore a lot of Chanel, and I wore tons of Céline. Like, I got all the O.G. Céline. Because they were clothes I could fit in. When you listen to yourself and you're comfortable in who you are, you wear what you feel like fits and looks right on you. And that's it.


Question: What are your thoughts on “new masculinity?” Is it a fad or something deeper?

~Bella

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To tell from what you posted, it seems to be about clothes and stuff, not about anything that might define masculinity.
 
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Question: What are your thoughts on “new masculinity?” Is it a fad or something deeper?

~Bella

Is there a fad? Lol..

As for me, I base notions of masculinity and femininity on biology mainly neoteny.

Heck, the idea that men of well means in the past wore makeup and dainty clothes doesn't really bother my viewpoints. I suspect men are more likely to be gender fluid than women. Isn't that what we see in the trans community? More trans-women compared to trans-men?
 
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So I think what this all boils down to is that in order to live as God created, we simply need to all go back to wearing the very same animal skins that he gave us when we were exiled from Eden. Anything else would be going against God's created intent. :)

(Wonder what kind of animal skins they were though....and did the animal skin given to Adam look different in any way from the animal skin given to Eve? Or perhaps they both looked exactly the same since we really can't base it on Hollywood biblical animal skin fashion, e.g. The Ten Commandments. And what if the animal that God made the skins from is now extinct? Or do we, as Christians under the New Covenant who wish to live into the Kingdom rather than live under the curse, just not wear anything at all and simply go back to God's original intent for nakedness?)
 
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Is there a fad? Lol..

As for me, I base notions of masculinity and femininity on biology mainly neoteny.

Heck, the idea that men of well means in the past wore makeup and dainty clothes doesn't really bother my viewpoints. I suspect men are more likely to be gender fluid than women. Isn't that what we see in the trans community? More trans-women compared to trans-men?

If true, I wonder if it's because men are currently more repressed when it comes to expressing themselves through fashion. Women can get away with wearing just about anything and not be censured since women are expected to be into subjects like fashion, make-up, hairstyles, etc., but men are much more rigidly boxed in in the 21st century west unlike in the past where they often wore things like lace and powdered wigs and kept up with Parisian styles, etc. (At least the more well-to-do)
 
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Welcome to GQ's New Masculinity issue, an exploration of the ways that traditional notions of masculinity are being challenged, overturned, and evolved.

Feature article with Pharrell on Evolving Masculinity and Spiritual Warfare

There were gender-fluid elements to the way you dressed long before it became a national conversation.

It started with the “I can pull that off” thing. I wore a lot of Chanel, and I wore tons of Céline. Like, I got all the O.G. Céline. Because they were clothes I could fit in. When you listen to yourself and you're comfortable in who you are, you wear what you feel like fits and looks right on you. And that's it.


Question: What are your thoughts on “new masculinity?” Is it a fad or something deeper?

~Bella

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Mainly I say - "to each his own". (Or perhaps "to each their own".... which I admit will take some adjusting to.)

I do think the extremes, like that amazing yellow quilted combo tent/sleeping-bag number, are a fad.

But I also think that the overall cultural middle is angling slightly away from gender all-importance, which is good.
 
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Welcome to GQ's New Masculinity issue, an exploration of the ways that traditional notions of masculinity are being challenged, overturned, and evolved.

Feature article with Pharrell on Evolving Masculinity and Spiritual Warfare

There were gender-fluid elements to the way you dressed long before it became a national conversation.

It started with the “I can pull that off” thing. I wore a lot of Chanel, and I wore tons of Céline. Like, I got all the O.G. Céline. Because they were clothes I could fit in. When you listen to yourself and you're comfortable in who you are, you wear what you feel like fits and looks right on you. And that's it.


Question: What are your thoughts on “new masculinity?” Is it a fad or something deeper?

~Bella

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What do I think? I think this all has happened before in the greek and Roman empires right before they collapsed from within.

 
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According to the Bible, all things are lawful but not all things are expedient.
1 Cor.10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

As Christians, we don't have to like it or condone it, but, we have to recognize a persons free will to choose and let every man be persuaded by his own mind (Rom. 13:5).
 
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Welcome to GQ's New Masculinity issue, an exploration of the ways that traditional notions of masculinity are being challenged, overturned, and evolved.

Feature article with Pharrell on Evolving Masculinity and Spiritual Warfare

There were gender-fluid elements to the way you dressed long before it became a national conversation.

It started with the “I can pull that off” thing. I wore a lot of Chanel, and I wore tons of Céline. Like, I got all the O.G. Céline. Because they were clothes I could fit in. When you listen to yourself and you're comfortable in who you are, you wear what you feel like fits and looks right on you. And that's it.


Question: What are your thoughts on “new masculinity?” Is it a fad or something deeper?

~Bella

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It looks like he's wearing a bed comforter....maybe a couch cover or drapes lol.

Meanwhile....women on Twitter are going bonkers for David Harbour's muscley arms.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.et...night-live-and-fans-cant-keep-it-together?amp

...in a tank top.
 
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we simply need to all go back to wearing the very same animal skins that he gave us when we were exiled from Eden.
There's a possibility that we are doing just that. Something I'd never considered until reading a blog by a biblical scholar (that I can't seem to locate now) is that maybe - prior to the fall of humanity - Adam and Eve may have been in spirit form like God. The "skin" or "garments" God made for them may have just been our mortal skin we're all clothed in now. We bring in the idea of God performing the first animal sacrifice in order to clothe Adam and Eve - but I don't see that in the text. I just thought it was an interesting thought. This translation goes along with that idea:

Genesis 3:21, NASB: "The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them."
 
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The concept of masculinity may have been challenged throughout history, but I don't think it was anywhere near the extent we're witnessing nowadays. I imagine men still acted like men, despite their outward appearance. However, there is now a global movement to completely redefine masculinity, and vilify traditional values / concepts. That's what concerns me.
 
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There's a possibility that we are doing just that. Something I'd never considered until reading a blog by a biblical scholar (that I can't seem to locate now) is that maybe - prior to the fall of humanity - Adam and Eve may have been in spirit form like God. The "skin" or "garments" God made for them may have just been our mortal skin we're all clothed in now. We bring in the idea of God performing the first animal sacrifice in order to clothe Adam and Eve - but I don't see that in the text. I just thought it was an interesting thought. This translation goes along with that idea:

Genesis 3:21, NASB: "The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them."

Wow, I NEVER thought of that before! Thank you! All the times I've read Genesis and yet still find new things to ponder and think through all the time. :)
 
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Welcome to GQ's New Masculinity issue, an exploration of the ways that traditional notions of masculinity are being challenged, overturned, and evolved.

Feature article with Pharrell on Evolving Masculinity and Spiritual Warfare

There were gender-fluid elements to the way you dressed long before it became a national conversation.

It started with the “I can pull that off” thing. I wore a lot of Chanel, and I wore tons of Céline. Like, I got all the O.G. Céline. Because they were clothes I could fit in. When you listen to yourself and you're comfortable in who you are, you wear what you feel like fits and looks right on you. And that's it.


Question: What are your thoughts on “new masculinity?” Is it a fad or something deeper?

~Bella

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It's nasty. This trend towards feminine men is enough to make any real man want to run screaming back into the woods and kill something. If this is the next generation were all doomed.
 
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Mainly I say - "to each his own". (Or perhaps "to each their own".... which I admit will take some adjusting to.)

I do think the extremes, like that amazing yellow quilted combo tent/sleeping-bag number, are a fad.

But I also think that the overall cultural middle is angling slightly away from gender all-importance, which is good.
I disagree with your assessment of the smoldering yellow ensemble. That thing seems like the most practical garment ever! You wouldn’t need anything else. Not even a bed! You could just live in that outfit and sleep wherever you feel like. Just, like, lay yourself down somewhere. You could even keep all your stuff inside of it. With the way housing costs are going, it might well be the way of the future.
 
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It's nasty. This trend towards feminine men is enough to make any real man want to run screaming back into the woods and kill something. If this is the next generation were all doomed.

Why doomed though? Obviously, lumberjacks might go extinct, but we aren't going to have many trees left after climate change anyway.
 
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There's a possibility that we are doing just that. Something I'd never considered until reading a blog by a biblical scholar (that I can't seem to locate now) is that maybe - prior to the fall of humanity - Adam and Eve may have been in spirit form like God. The "skin" or "garments" God made for them may have just been our mortal skin we're all clothed in now. We bring in the idea of God performing the first animal sacrifice in order to clothe Adam and Eve - but I don't see that in the text. I just thought it was an interesting thought. This translation goes along with that idea:

Genesis 3:21, NASB: "The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife, and clothed them."
A young man at my church said he had read something like this before. I guess it is possible and we will understand it better when Lord Jesus comes. The Bible is full of things we don't fully understand. But it does teach us that there is NOTHING new under the sun.
Ecc. 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

So what we are seeing is just a repeat of history.
 
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