Thousands Of Swedes Are Inserting Microchips Under Their Skin

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Cain received the number of the beast, because he demonstrated that he was of the flesh, and not of the spirit. The mark of the beast is merely means that you are a beast, and have not overcome the flesh. You demonstrate that you are a beast, by your works (your right hand) and what you think (your forehead). God's elect are also beasts, but they overcome their nature by being born again.

Ecc 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

2Pe 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
2Pe 2:13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
2Pe 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:


Rev 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
Rev 4:7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
Rev 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
Rev 4:9 And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
Rev 4:10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Rev 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.



I appreciate what you were trying to do here, but exegesis trumps eisegesis. You cannot simply lob verses together which literally use the same word and presume the meaning is identical despite the context it is used in (such as literal animal beasts, vs. designating animalistic behaviour in humans, vs. angelic beings that possess apparent elements in the likeness of an animal) and suppose it to override a clear and explicit Scripture on the nature of some particular thing, such as this particular mark of this particular beast.

The mark of the beast grants or denies financial powers. No matter how you spiritualize this, unless you want to impose the meaning of "buy or sell" to be spiritual as well ("its referring to buying and selling your soul back", etc) it is a financially enabling device and therefore physical.
 
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Have you not read prophecy? How the beast will be able to control all the buying and selling in the entire world? The mark of the beast, 666?
All predicted thousands of years before any human mind could even begin to conceive how it could be possible.
I think you miss the point. The point is that all the earth follows the beast and worship it.
Thats what makes their names not to be present in the book of life. Not the inability to buy or sell and its technical solution.

Even if we take it as future and not past. I would be also careful with the word "earth/world", it never means planet, in the Bible.
 
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I appreciate what you were trying to do here, but exegesis trumps eisegesis. You cannot simply lob verses together which literally use the same word and presume the meaning is identical despite the context it is used in (such as literal animal beasts, vs. designating animalistic behaviour in humans, vs. angelic beings that possess apparent elements in the likeness of an animal) and suppose it to override a clear and explicit Scripture on the nature of some particular thing, such as this particular mark of this particular beast.

The mark of the beast grants or denies financial powers. No matter how you spiritualize this, unless you want to impose the meaning of "buy or sell" to be spiritual as well ("its referring to buying and selling your soul back", etc) it is a financially enabling device and therefore physical.

Pro 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
 
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Cain received the number of the beast, because he demonstrated that he was of the flesh, and not of the spirit. The mark of the beast is merely means that you are a beast, and have not overcome the flesh. You demonstrate that you are a beast, by your works (your right hand) and what you think (your forehead). God's elect are also beasts, but they overcome their nature by being born again.

That's a good one!
 
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The Mark of the Beast is allegiance to totalitarian regimes that demand sinful obedience to man instead of God. The Mark = Man's number. Here's the same principle when applied to believers


“Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.” Revelation 7:3 (KJV 1900)

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” Revelation 14:1 (KJV 1900)
 
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Ouch!! I don't think that I'll put any microchips in me. I do like having them in my computers however :)

--David

Good - why would you want to enhance your rotting meat sack in any way?

Besides, too many non-religious learned minds have warned of this exact same thing - we don't want to be the lot of humans that runs toward hell. Black Mirror (TV Show) prides itself on being edgy and nuanced by technological futuristic cautionary tales. All of their episodes have the main character's story develop as a futuristic warning to the viewer - based mostly on neural interface technology. In this respect, Black Mirror is ahead of the curve a bit.

However, one of their episodes featured a society whose primary mobility was based on social status - not American social status (Kardashians) or a caste system, it was much more extreme. If you did not show a person the exact correct emotion/gratitude/tip/likes/loyalty..., then your social score could be marked down. You wouldn't even have to know the person for this to affect your social score. Everyone was connected to everyone's social network through neural interfacing.

If your social score was high enough, you had access to elite accommodations (luxury car rental, choice of living zones, etc). A low social credit score would afford you termination from your job, and ultimately banishment from the society. I cant tell you the ending or details, but in the end of the episode the woman finds her way to "freedom" by an unorthodox way. In this episode, Black Mirror failed to resonate the futuristic cautionary flow since it is just commentary on modern practices coming.

Black Mirror is coming true in China, where your 'rating' affects your home, transport and social circle

A 'Black Mirror' Episode Is Coming to Life in China
 
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Luke 10:41-42
But the Lord answered and said to her, “Martha, Martha, you are worried and bothered about so many things; but only one thing is necessary, for Mary has chosen the good part, which shall not be taken away from her.”
 
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If it is an RFID device, means you can scan the crowd looking for information, like authorities can log who is there. It can or will someday be an invasion of privacy at the least. Everything about you is already being stored and sorted and searched in computer databases, the chip facilitates the process. In Revelation, people who recieve the mark already worship the Beast.

Getting chipped also lowers the barriers to getting rechipped with an new and better chip version.
 
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I think you miss the point. The point is that all the earth follows the beast and worship it.
Thats what makes their names not to be present in the book of life. Not the inability to buy or sell and its technical solution.
They prove that they are willing to "follow the Beast and worship it" by taking the chip. And that is because they lust to be able to buy and sell more than receive death to prove they love Jesus.
 
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Pro 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Rev 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

With your eisegetical logic, no one in the Bible has ever died physically because death is referred to spiritually in the Scriptures somewhere. Therefore we can flail the spiritual meaning of that text at all other texts using the words "died" or "death."

It is amusing because I didn't think you were actually going to attempt so absurd an aim as to spiritualize the "buy or sell" in that text, as it would be the most obvious betrayal of incompetence at exegeting that particular Scripture. I gather you're probably not as ignorant as you convey in your lack of distinction of context, so alternatively are simply seeking a text without a context as a pretext for a proof text. I sincerely admonish you to improve your exegetical skills as you're only harming yourself and anyone who believes you when you abuse texts so wildly, intentionally or unintentionally.

The context in Revelation 13 is a mark that grants and denies financial powers. If you can't see it, then you just do not have the eyes to see. Though likely you do see it but have proclivities towards your interpretation against the clear meaning of the text for some undisclosed personal reason.

The Mark of the Beast is allegiance to totalitarian regimes that demand sinful obedience to man instead of God. The Mark = Man's number. Here's the same principle when applied to believers


“Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.” Revelation 7:3 (KJV 1900)

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads.” Revelation 14:1 (KJV 1900)

The mark of God is spiritual. The mark of Satan is fleshly. This is clearly conveyed in the text and should not be surprising, as the battle of God and Satan for a human soul has always been between the Spirit of God and the powers of Satan in the flesh. This is also why God's Jerusalem will be descended from heaven (Revelation 21) and Satan's kingdom will be of the powers of the flesh and system of this present world (Revelation 13).
 
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With your eisegetical logic, no one in the Bible has ever died physically because death is referred to spiritually in the Scriptures somewhere. Therefore we can flail the spiritual meaning of that text at all other texts using the words "died" or "death."

It is amusing because I didn't think you were actually going to attempt so absurd an aim as to spiritualize the "buy or sell" in that text, as it would be the most obvious betrayal of incompetence at exegeting that particular Scripture. I gather you're probably not as ignorant as you convey in your lack of distinction of context, so alternatively are simply seeking a text without a context as a pretext for a proof text. I sincerely admonish you to improve your exegetical skills as you're only harming yourself and anyone who believes you when you abuse texts so wildly, intentionally or unintentionally.

The context in Revelation 13 is a mark that grants and denies financial powers. If you can't see it, then you just do not have the eyes to see. Though likely you do see it but have proclivities towards your interpretation against the clear meaning of the text for some undisclosed personal reason.



The mark of God is spiritual. The mark of Satan is fleshly. This is clearly conveyed in the text and should not be surprising, as the battle of God and Satan for a human soul has always been between the Spirit of God and the powers of Satan in the flesh. This is also why God's Jerusalem will be descended from heaven (Revelation 21) and Satan's kingdom will be of the powers of the flesh and system of this present world (Revelation 13).


Wow, the mark of God is spiritual, so the mark of Satan must be physical?
Well, by your reasoning, God is spirit, so Satan must be flesh. LOL!

By the way, things in scripture don't mean one thing, and then something completely different somewhere else. It always means the same thing.
There is a thing called "rightly dividing the word" and partitioning it off into little pieces, because you don't like what it says, is not it.
 
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Basically, no different from getting a smart phone/computer in order to make certain things more easily done.

Hello Kenny. Convenience, easiness, is a very dangerous road to go down IMO. Doing things more easily? What about doing things rightly? What if the right way is not easy, but hard. God Bless :)
 
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Wow, the mark of God is spiritual, so the mark of Satan must be physical?
Well, by your reasoning, God is spirit, so Satan must be flesh. LOL!

By the way, things in scripture don't mean one thing, and then something completely different somewhere else. It always means the same thing.
There is a thing called "rightly dividing the word" and partitioning it off into little pieces, because you don't like what it says, is not it.

I'm going to be blunt. You simply can't exegete to save your life. I gather by your poor reasoning you probably know you have no foundation in this argument that is left standing, but you insist on saving face for pride's sake. The context of the aforementioned Scriptures has been made plain, and your statement "things in scripture don't mean one thing, and then something completely different somewhere else" is the signature of your incompetence for discussing these issues with any level of honesty, reasoning or humility. Of course the Scripture means one thing with a word sometimes and other times another. That is so obvious it is equivalent to trying to tell you there is only two genders. Your argument has become unsalvageable at this point.
 
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