Have You Ever Asked For Healing and Got It Immediately?

Healing usually takes time, miracles can be immediate.

duplicate

ABCthings said:

If you don't understand the question read the title again.

Click to expand...

Carl Emerson said:

Healing usually takes time, miracles can be immediate.

Click to expand...

ABCthings said:

When Jesus healed Simon's mother in law it happen immediately. Luke 4: 39

Click to expand...

I went through a nervous breakdown and doctors said I would never work again due to having auditory hallucinations. Through a lot of prayer from me and my wife, and also with help of medication managment, I have been healed for a matter of ten years now. I still remember the things I would hear and think in my mind. I thought my kids were robots, and I thought the government was after me. I thought people communicated in morse code with me, through taps on walls, etc. I though birds, trains, everything communicated with me through this means. I know it was all part of my mind, but now I know that all those things were false. Once God gave me a reality check, I was able to turn off the voices. If I am quite I can still hear them, but I no longer believe them. This is God reminding me that I did not heal myself, that medicine didn't heal me. God healed me, I can still hear the voices but God showed me how to distinguish between the voices I hear and reality. I remember sitting in a factory, and just zoning out on the sounds the machine made, trying to see what it was saying to me through morse code. I was fired from three jobs, when I was sick. But now, not only have I held a job for the last eight years, we kept our house during the whole time, and now God is allowing us to upgrade our home. Through God's miracles in my life, we may be able to buy our next house outright with no mortgage. A larger home with more rooms, and a much newer home in a nice neighborhood. In fact someone came out of the blue and offered us almost double what our house was worth. They said that they used to live there, and pointed to some initials that were engraved into some cement, that we never knew who they were. She said, she lived there all her childhood till she moved out after highschool, and wanted to add it to their families realestate. The awesome thing is we bought this fixer upper and we never had the funds to fix it up. The fences are falling down, AC is broken, front yard is dead, has horrible eye appeal from road....but she wanted to offer double our house value, cash. That is how we are able to almost buy our next home outright. See, I prayed my whole life for financial blessing and health. I had paranoia for a year, and we almost went through forclosure and went through bankruptsy, I was on disability for my illness for a year. Then as God healed me, my theology changed toward the better, I slowly recovered my mental faculties, I was blessed with an awesome union job at a factory, and they helped me learn my craft for the next eight years to the present. This was all God. The doctor told me to apply for social security life time disability. And in fact we had already submitted paper work for it. I was not ever expected to work again, my wife would have probably left me as I would not have been right in the head, (thinking kids were robots), I would have been a danger to the children. But God not only saved my job, He saved my family, my home, and years later as I started praying and fasting, He gave me victory over several life long addictions. I still struggle but I am not addicted to those sins anymore. One was inappropriate contentography, another was lust for women at work and church, another was self gratification. God restored my marriage and healed my entire life. And now we will be mortgage free. I am only 43. So being mortgage free for me, is awesome. I may be able to save for my kids college now. I look forward to more healing and more miracles in my walk with God, and I pray that you too find the miracles through prayer. Just don't use prayer as a substitute for obedience. That was my initial mistake. God bless. Remember that God created the universe to attack sin. And He also created the universe to bless Holiness. God does not have to bless us, I believe the universe itself blesses and curses us based on our obedience to God. Mercy is different, grace is unique. Even though the universe curses sin, God can grant special forgiveness by special occasions of mercy and grace. And God desires and has a heart to bless us, not to allow sin to hurt us. Even though we are saved, if we drink every weekend, we will eventually drive drunk. and even though we are saved, we may get a DUI or worse. And a worse case scenario is getting a DUI and a murder charge for hitting someone because we were drunk. It's not a salvation issue, it's the universe cursing the person who abuses alcohol. God can break any addiction, I know. But we must pray, fast, and repent. If we are not serious with our sin, we will never be healed and will be bound to our sin and addiction. Jesus wants to bless us, but our disobedience forbids Him to do so. To the person who is addicted to inappropriate contentography and lust.....it may seem innocent at first. But that sin will destroy a marriage. Eventually you will be caught viewing it, or looking at another woman. Many cases of that will destroy a marriage, and sometimes even one instance of the above. We must be ruthless with our sin, because our sin is ruthless with us. I recommend anyone who is caught up in that, to download blue coat parental software (K9), it blocks most inappropriate content, then set up google safe search on a separate account that you don't use, lock it with an unknown password. You can lock youtube on safe mode too. I would avoid social media, movies, anything that will cause you to have too much input (of women you are likely to lust over), reducing the stimuli in your brain will allow you to fall in love with your beautiful wife again. I had to stop looking at girls in general. I mean I look down most of the time. That is just me, and how I did it. Eventually when I feel comfortable with how my brain uses that information and that stimuli, I may be able to change that later. You do what you have to. I block many christians on social media because of bikini pics they post. You may be able to look at that and not lust, but I was not able to. So I block it all. Even if a girl is too pretty and posts too many pictures of herself on twitter or IG, I block them. They are not doing anything wrong, the problem is on my end. I should be able to look at them and not lust, but being sexually addicted for most of my adult life meant that I have some healing to do first till I am healthy. See God is doing healing every day. It all started with being healed from skitsophrenia, then it moved to sexual sin, and then when that is done, God will heal of another issue, pride, or covetousness, etc. The christian life, is amazing. We get out of the Gospel exactly what we put in. Eternal life starts right now. It starts with submitting to God and accepting His grace and using that fresh start to do just that, start over.

ABCthings said:

If you don't understand the question read the title again.

Click to expand...

I had an eye infection and had a healing from church members. I was healed immediately. Yes.

Immediately healed? No.

Nope. Paul wasn't immediately healed, either, nor was Trophimus or Epaphroditus. Dorcas died (though, she was resurrected by Peter a while later). Timothy's stomach complaint wasn't healed. Paul told him to drink some wine, instead. Doesn't look like healing was a common thing among Christians even in New Testament times.

ABCthings said:

When Jesus healed Simon's mother in law it happen immediately. Luke 4: 39

Click to expand...

Yes I have seen both - sometimes immediate, sometimes over time.

ABCthings said:

hmm...deep!
So what you saying is obedience to God = Blessings

Click to expand...

following all His commands. Repenting of any and all things ungodly, basically if it does not help our relationship it hurts. I stopped reading news for example, that is just what God told me to do. News agencies know that negative news sells more suscriptions than postive heart warming news. So they focus mainly on the negatives. God wants us to focus on the positives in life, be thankful for our blessings. Thankful I don't have heart disease, that my feet feel better after a long day at work, thankful there was little traffic on the way to work, thankful I woke up on time to pick up my son from school. Being thankful puts us in proper relationship with God. I am not thankful enough. I like to read through a list of answered prayers I have. I am always humbled, and grateful after I do that. But obedience can be any one of millions of things. For me it was putting away watching movies that were PG13. Most christians can watch PG13 movies, but most of them are borderline on where they stand as far as loving your enemy, or sexuality, or drug and alcohol use. If God has not mentioned to you specifically not to do that, then that is fine. It's something that I personally let go of. I found it reduced my overall input of sexuality in my life, and helped me in other areas, staying pure online for example. I still struggle with this, typically in social media. But God is continuing to work on me.

ABCthings said:

If you don't understand the question read the title again.

Click to expand...

ABCthings said:

hmm...deep!
So what you saying is obedience to God = Blessings

Click to expand...

devin553344 said:

I had an eye infection and had a healing from church members. I was healed immediately. Yes.

Click to expand...

JCFantasy23 said:

Immediately healed? No.

Click to expand...

aiki said:

Nope. Paul wasn't immediately healed, either, nor was Trophimus or Epaphroditus. Dorcas died (though, she was resurrected by Peter a while later). Timothy's stomach complaint wasn't healed. Paul told him to drink some wine, instead. Doesn't look like healing was a common thing among Christians even in New Testament times.

Click to expand...

Carl Emerson said:

Yes I have seen both - sometimes immediate, sometimes over time.

Click to expand...

I prayed for a guy at work. He told me he was paralyzed from a back injury. I prayed and put him on the church prayer list. He went back to work, and He told me...oh yeah it just ended up being a pinched nerve from a muscle cramp, and once I went to therapy, it was fixed. I told Him it was a miracle, as we were praying for feeling to come back into His legs as a church. Sometimes God also uses doctors and medical practice. But that does not mean it's not a healing. Another story I had of a pastor that got called to a hospital as a mom from HIs church shut a door on her sons finger and the doctor said that blood poisoning set in and they had to amputate. God specifically told Him that he would be healed. So He told the mom, Your sons finger would be healed. LAter she called crying saying the finger was amputated, and as he was driving to hospital He was angry at God for doing this to him. He comforted her in the hospital and went home. She felt better but both her and him struggled in their faith over the issue, a few weeks later she called the pastor extatically, she said.....they were playing in the front yard and knocked off the bandage, and a new finger is growing back! It's new pink tissue. I guess this is scientifically possible but it's rare, and even rarer is a finger nail growing back. The doctor took pictures of it over the next few weeks, and put it in a medical journal. The doctor said to her that the finger nail probably won't grow back. A few months later their was a full finger on his hand, with finger nail and everything and you could not even tell it was slammed in the door. It was not an immediate healing, but it was a healing non the less. IF you want to read more about that story, it's in CHuck smiths book called "effective prayer life." Chuck smith was the pastor in the story, He didn't however mention what journal it was, or the doctors name or people involved. But it was from His own mouth, before He passed away a few years ago. I love that book, very good.

gradyll:

It is a common practice of Christians to work to stamp out the sin in their life. They're a lot like my Dad who once had a log explode in a campfire and shower sparks all over the tinder-dry forest surrounding him. He and his buddy were running around like mad men, stamping out all the sparks before they could ignite the dry grass and brush and start a forest fire. The sparks weren't the source of the problem, though; the campfire was. There would not have been sparks to stamp out if there hadn't been a fire creating them. Dealing with the sparks was important, but it was much more important to put out their source.

The same is true of Christians. Stamping out sin is important but the source of sin isn't the sin itself. All sins are just symptoms of something else at work. That "something else" is Self, our "old man," as Paul called it (Romans 6:6). The "old man" is the person we are apart from God, the person we are without the Spirit within, who is living for now rather than eternity (Philippians 3:18-19), who is bound under the power of fleshly impulses (Ephesians 2:1-3), who is selfish and in rebellion toward God (Colossians 1:21; Titus 1:16). From this "old man," from Self, comes all our sin. Until he is dealt with God's way, the sin will just keep coming, no matter what we do.

Paul explained God's way to freedom from the "old man" in Romans 6. The chapter talks of the two keys to victory over sin: 1.) Living by faith in the truth of who we are in Christ and 2.) Living in moment-by-moment surrender to God as a "slave of righteousness." If a Christian wants to be free of sin, to have it be the exception rather than the rule in their life, walking in the truths of Romans 6 is essential.

On the matter of the healing you described. I would be very reluctant to call what you described of the healed back and finger a miracle. By definition, a miracle operates outside of or beyond the natural processes that ordinarily govern our existence. Miracles are supernatural; they cannot be properly explained by natural means. More often than not, God uses those things He's provided to us in modern medicine and in our own physical capacities to heal us. It is not His usual way, I think, to perform a supernatural healing, a miracle, upon a person. As I said, we see this even in the New Testament with Paul, Trophimus, Epaphroditus, Dorcas and Timothy - all of whom fell ill but were not miraculously healed (except Dorcas, sort of).

Yes I've been immediately healed, though of nothing major to my knowledge. Usually I will be in the middle of doing something, like I'm running/working out and I'm 2 miles away from home, and I get a cramp. Praying with my eyes open. I've had God proactively head off serious health issues multiple times; stuff I pretty obviously would have constantly prayed for, had it happened.

ABCthings said:

When Jesus healed Simon's mother in law it happen immediately. Luke 4: 39

Click to expand...

Jesus healed peoplr immediately to demonstrate thst He is from God. Without miracles, people wont believe Him. When the apostles were given power to perform immediate miracles because God wanted to set up the first churches. The purpose of miracles at that time was to convince the people of His presence. As well, there were intense persecutions against Christians, and miracles convince them to endure for a living God. They needed the miracles. After the church was established, God sent less miracles.

Above is explained in chapter 4 of the book Understanding Prayer, Faith and God's Will.

aiki said:

gradyll:

It is a common practice of Christians to work to stamp out the sin in their life. They're a lot like my Dad who once had a log explode in a campfire and shower sparks all over the tinder-dry forest surrounding him. He and his buddy were running around like mad men, stamping out all the sparks before they could ignite the dry grass and brush and start a forest fire. The sparks weren't the source of the problem, though; the campfire was. There would not have been sparks to stamp out if there hadn't been a fire creating them. Dealing with the sparks was important, but it was much more important to put out their source.

The same is true of Christians. Stamping out sin is important but the source of sin isn't the sin itself. All sins are just symptoms of something else at work. That "something else" is Self, our "old man," as Paul called it (Romans 6:6). The "old man" is the person we are apart from God, the person we are without the Spirit within, who is living for now rather than eternity (Philippians 3:18-19), who is bound under the power of fleshly impulses (Ephesians 2:1-3), who is selfish and in rebellion toward God (Colossians 1:21; Titus 1:16). From this "old man," from Self, comes all our sin. Until he is dealt with God's way, the sin will just keep coming, no matter what we do.

Paul explained God's way to freedom from the "old man" in Romans 6. The chapter talks of the two keys to victory over sin: 1.) Living by faith in the truth of who we are in Christ and 2.) Living in moment-by-moment surrender to God as a "slave of righteousness." If a Christian wants to be free of sin, to have it be the exception rather than the rule in their life, walking in the truths of Romans 6 is essential.

On the matter of the healing you described. I would be very reluctant to call what you described of the healed back and finger a miracle. By definition, a miracle operates outside of or beyond the natural processes that ordinarily govern our existence. Miracles are supernatural; they cannot be properly explained by natural means. More often than not, God uses those things He's provided to us in modern medicine and in our own physical capacities to heal us. It is not His usual way, I think, to perform a supernatural healing, a miracle, upon a person. As I said, we see this even in the New Testament with Paul, Trophimus, Epaphroditus, Dorcas and Timothy - all of whom fell ill but were not miraculously healed (except Dorcas, sort of).

Click to expand...

yes it was definitely a miracle, that part is not questioned. And no, I disagree with your take on sin, it's not about the root, unless your talking salvation, and we aren't....here is more on that part. We need to follow the Lord with all of our heart.

gradyll said:

yes it was definitely a miracle, that part is not questioned.

Click to expand...

Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. What you described does not sound like a miracle to me.

gradyll said:

And no, I disagree with your take on sin, it's not about the root, unless your talking salvation, and we aren't

Click to expand...

??? It's not merely "my take" on sin, it's the "take" of Scripture, too. Until a person begins to live in the light of Romans 6, to reckon (vs. 11) themselves "dead unto sin but alive unto God," they will continue to chase after the "sparks" of sin that the "fire" of the "old man" produces. This is why Paul emphasizes the believer's death to sin, their co-crucifixion with Christ in so many of his letters:

Galatians 2:20
Galatians 5:24
Galatians 6:14
Romans 6
Colossians 2:20
Colossians 3:3
2 Timothy 2:11

Paul wrote these things to believers, not to the unsaved. He was instructing Christians about how to live as "new creatures in Christ." The death of the "old man" is not just a truth relating to how one is saved, but to how one lives each day as a saved person.

Ephesians 4:20-24
20 But you have not so learned Christ,
21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

I couldn't read the graphic you posted. The print was far too small.

Yes. I was deathly ill, and it was sooo bad i had to be given antibiotics intravenously. It wasn't "immediate", but sometime during the night God intervened and did the impossible. There was a 2nd time that i was deathly ill (the hospital had misdiagnosed me, twice) and i surely would've died, but God intervened, so subtly, and within hours.

Another time,, i had gotten punctured with a rusty part of metal, and should've gotten lockjaw. I had no insurance, and did not go to the doctors, but i did pray, and God healed the "impossible".

God heals, and in His own timing.

When God heals people are fully restored. So there is no indication that there was ever a problem in the first place. We see this with the withered hand: "Then He said to the man, “Stretch out your hand!” He stretched it out, and it was restored to normal, like the other" (Matthew 12:13)

aiki said:

Well, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. What you described does not sound like a miracle to me.



??? It's not merely "my take" on sin, it's the "take" of Scripture, too. Until a person begins to live in the light of Romans 6, to reckon (vs. 11) themselves "dead unto sin but alive unto God," they will continue to chase after the "sparks" of sin that the "fire" of the "old man" produces. This is why Paul emphasizes the believer's death to sin, their co-crucifixion with Christ in so many of his letters:

Galatians 2:20
Galatians 5:24
Galatians 6:14
Romans 6
Colossians 2:20
Colossians 3:3
2 Timothy 2:11

Paul wrote these things to believers, not to the unsaved. He was instructing Christians about how to live as "new creatures in Christ." The death of the "old man" is not just a truth relating to how one is saved, but to how one lives each day as a saved person.

Ephesians 4:20-24
20 But you have not so learned Christ,
21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts,
23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind,
24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness.

I couldn't read the graphic you posted. The print was far too small.

Click to expand...

sorry you are correct namely in this, "we can agree to disagree." There is no physical way for a new finger and finger nail to grow back by itself. I have not ever seen that in the medical field. The take on sin is that sin produces death, plain and simple. It's not about sparks or fires. Sin = death. Thats it. Salvation is not to sit on a cloud playing a harp all day, salvation is from sin. Jesus saved us from ourselves, from our addictions, from our old nature. The verse you are talking about "reckoning ourselves dead to sin" is true. We must live in the new life Christ has created us for, that is the reason for salvation, it's salvation from adam's sin, and our sin. There is no reason for salvation other than salvation from sin. That is it's only purpose. But to be honest, I don't think that debates among christians are helpful or even necessary, the last several months I have been encouraging people to use other social media outlets, namely twitter. The spirit here is fighty, if we see someone with different views other than ourselves, the tendency instead of having grace and unity, is to make everyone like ourselves. There is no wonder thy athiests flock to this site, because we don't unify, or love one another. It's not all our fault because the way christian forums are made are to encourage dialogue in various forms, and the first thing people want is to talk controversy. What bible is best, are gifts for today, is the rapture soon or after tribulation, is jesus a republican or democrat. It's silly. I have been posting in the christian advice area of the forum, that is the last remaining place I will be, eventually I hope to be called completely out of these forums all together, but that is not yet. There is some stuff I need to do. Anyway, by all means continue to fight with strangers, I hope you are fulfilled in the end. Or you can like me and others let go of the fighting and bickering and just unite in Christ.