What are America's "Traditional Values"...?

bèlla · Oct 14, 2019

com7fy8 said:
And so . . . as I understand Bella has said > you will be depending first on Jesus. And you will have rest for your soul. And you will be on a phone line with Him, and this can do more than her six A.M. till midnight phone company which Bella has had.

Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends. —John 15:13

My 6 AM friends stood shoulder to shoulder during my spiritual battle. They forsook their comfort and safety in deference to love. They suffered with me and were subject to demonic attacks for a year.

They served me in word and deed. And their sacrifice is greater than any believer has bestowed. I am indebted to them and can never repay their loving-kindness.

They weren’t Christians. But they knew the meaning of love and brotherhood far greater than most.

~Bella

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Oct 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
The land belongs to God, to dispose of as he chooses. At this time in history he has chosen to give it to those who now possess it.

So people steal the land from the Idians. And you think God would happy about that. Anyways trying force God,, morals and values on everyone has never worked.

OldWiseGuy · Oct 14, 2019

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
So people steal the land from the Idians. And you think God would happy about that. Anyways trying force God,, morals and values on everyone has never worked.

Lands change hands down through history, 'by hook or by crook'. This land was promised to others by God long before the Indians arrived. Of course they had no way of knowing that although some did foresee it.

TLK Valentine · Oct 14, 2019

America's values?

Well, if it's something more than "selling out for cash..."

Donald Trump Said Saudi Arabia Was Behind 9/11. Now He’s Going There on His First Foreign Trip.

Trump: We’re sending troops to Saudi Arabia and ‘they pay for everything’

...I'd love to hear it.

jayem · Oct 14, 2019

Traditional values are whatever a politician thinks will get him the most campaign money, and the most votes.

OldWiseGuy · Oct 14, 2019

Political values shouldn't influence traditional American values.

renniks · Oct 14, 2019

Neogaia777 said:
Cultivating self-reliance in and on it's own an by itself, thinks nothing about others, or other rights, freedoms, rules, liberties, or "justice" equally and for all, etc...

And self-reliance alone, or by itself, could actually go against those things sometimes really, cause alone and by itself, it is actually very selfish, self-centered, etc, cares nothing about others in and of itself, alone and by itself...

I think strict selfish self-reliance is what we have turned it into that it most certainly and definitely was not originally, etc, not just that alone and by itself anyway...

God Bless!

Most self reliant people I know are very willing to help others. I think you're a warping the concept and creating a stereotype.

Tom 1 · Oct 14, 2019

Neogaia777 said:
What are America's "Traditional Values"...?

And, also, What is the "American Dream" also...?

Then, finally, "Who, or what person or person's, or people, or what party or parties, are, or constitute a "threat", or maybe even very great or very grave "threat" to them", lastly...?

And "Who or what persons (politicians, etc) or what parties or whatever ("corporations" also, etc) does not", lastly also...?

Discuss...?

God Bless!

I reckon Jack Kerouac's Town and City gives some insight into the golden age of the American Dream. It seems to have gone south a bit in the interim.

OldWiseGuy · Oct 14, 2019

renniks said:
Most self reliant people I know are very willing to help others. I think you're a warping the concept and creating a stereotype.

No only that but because we have more skills we are better able to help others.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Oct 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
Lands change hands down through history, 'by hook or by crook'. This land was promised to others by God long before the Indians arrived. Of course they had no way of knowing that although some did foresee it.

Indians are slowly getting their land back. So God will give the Indians their land back. Like I said, Forcing God , morals or 1 religion on people, will never work. God learned that. With his own people , You can't even get Christians to obey Christian laws. So why try to force it into law. Especially things that are none of your business.

OldWiseGuy · Oct 14, 2019

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Indians are slowly getting their land back. So God will give the Indians their land back. Like I said, Forcing God , morals or 1 religion on people, will never work. God learned that. With his own people , You can't even get Christians to obey Christian laws. So why try to force it into law. Especially things that are none of your business.

You are correct. We are losing the land that God gave us. It was never meant to be held in perpetuity, only to fulfill a legal obligation and promise. We had a wonderful legacy, and we blew it, like a profligate blows his inheritance.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Oct 14, 2019

OldWiseGuy said:
You are correct. We are losing the land that God gave us. It was never meant to be held in perpetuity, only to fulfill a legal obligation and promise. We had a wonderful legacy, and we blew it, like a profligate blows his inheritance.

Like I said American it stolen land. God never gave America to us. God is slowly giving it back to the Indians.

OldWiseGuy · Oct 14, 2019

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Like I said American it stolen land. God never gave America to us. God is slowly giving it back to the Indians.

God gave it to the indians first, then to us. I hope they do get more of it back (not my land of course). ^_^

More casinos would be nice too.

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