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actually history shows it can't be said. Otherwise why are their now defunct and dead religions? do you see people actively worshiping roman or greek gods? Has the resurgence of egyptian gods somehow taken prominence in the world once again? No? then these gods The god of the bible are not immune unfalsifiable terms.As I see it, the same thing can be said about any imaginary deities. And so it's an unfalsifiable hypothesis.
What most 'thinkers' fail to understand is all Gods define themselves and provide their own terms of falsifiability. IE each deity makes promises. You the people provide ABC and the God and or priests will provide 123. Here's the dealt People are not as stupid as your professors tell you they have to be. that you are not in a unique position to see where and when a god/religion is not performing or keeping up with their end of the bargain. In most cases Government, priests and or religion if believed on a mass scale can often times fill in the bits of what if promised by a set of deity till that given culture fails. then people don't give to the religion as much other starve and go hungry faith and beliefs drop off ect. till the religion can no longer sustain itself. But again the gods always provie a symbodic partnership with man. to test this relationship is to have a way to faisfy the given deity. Most religions again are either supported communially or by a lessor (then God) being. either man idology or even demon. but however you want to look at it falsifiablity is present in every religion with every God. Including Christianity as God promises to work with us one on one with no priest or gobetweens. Which is really a very far reaching promise that has been tested on an indivisual basis trillions of times over thousands of years. and more often than not God has made good on what he promised. which is one of the reason why Christianity extends beyond soceity for it's growth and support.
actually kinda did.Strangely, this concept did not apply to Baal or any other so called false Gods
Baal was the god of:
Baal sets the season,
And gives forth His voice from the clouds.
He flashes lightning to the earth.
As a house of cedars let Him complete it,
Or a house of bricks let Him erect it!
Let it be told to Aliyan Baal:
'The mountains will bring Thee much silver.
The hills, the choicest of gold;
The mines will bring Thee precious stones,
And build a house of silver and gold.
A house of lapis gems!'
These thing Baal provided though sacrifice and or ritual. at some point the rituals continued but the wealth his kingdom promised failed. or falter and his people were conquered. which would falsify the idea that God was a singular all powerful deity. Because the things listed above that defined his presence and reign all went away or was taken despite his best efforts.
Do you see how this works? The God of the bible made a set of similar promises 2000 years ago and despite where in the world these promises are tested people find what has been promised.
keep reading my good man.Doesn't it seem strange? Baal had to show up on demand to prove he is a real God, but Yahweh/Jehovah/Jesus doesn't have to? 1 Kings 18:22-24.
I find it funny your cherry picked story stops at 24 when the narrative finds itself complete in verse 40.. IF you wold have read the whole thing God does indeed show up. Just like he promises to show up Now in the way of the Holy Spirit. To each and every person who Ask's seeks and knocks as luke 11 outlines.
how about an honest one? how about one who does not load the dech when you pretend to quote bible verses? how about a standard that give God his full due and not a series of have measures and pretend seeking.So, if I want honesty, why do I need to apply a special standard to a Christian God, and another standard to everything else?
John 14 12-14 sums up and says anything you ask in my name I will do for you. Which I can personally atest he has done for me. to the point I do not ask for anything outside of basics I need to keep everything he has entrusted me with to keep it going.Also, when Jesus made the promise in John 14:12 and in Matthew 17, he made himself open to observation.
Also note to ask in his name is not to say in jesus name I pray. To ask in someone names is to ask for something they would ask for you to have. Do you understand:
Wrong: Dear God Jesus wants me to have a winning lottery ticket and a inappropriate content star girlfriend. in jesus name...
Right: Lord, Christ in the parable of the soil liken my heart to hard pan where the seeds of truth are quickly stolen away. please do whatever it takes to break my proud heart so I and see hear and understand your truth. This is what I pray that Christ would want for me to have....
We can make these specific discernment in the greek if you like.
In mat 17 I am assuming you are referring to the faith of a mustard seed bit where Jesus says if you have the faith of a mustard seed you can remove mountains of doubt.. This all points back to luke 11 and it tells you how to employ this tiniest amount of faith to get those results.
In luke 11 Jesus promised through the parable of the persistent neighbor that if we ask seek and knock for the Holy Spirit God the father will send him.
Then what more proof of God does one need than God himself? If God was sat before or next to you would it not then remove a mountain of doubt? This very thing is what changed my life forever.
For all of those who believe in God but can not sustain it on faith along God offers himself/Holy Spirit to the church. This Holy Spirit is what keep the church alive and well and ever growing if not here in the west but in the east.
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