Liturgical Churches and the Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical Books?

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

I am curious and I didn't know where to put this at within the mass of forums here.

Do all liturgical type churches read from the apocrypha/deuterocanonical books?

Having read a Catholic bible all these years, I am kinda overwhelmed by all the different versions of the bible. I have read a little from the NIV, I believe it is the 1984 version (was a while ago and can no longer find any copies of it), as well as a NKJV and the NRSV. I don't particularly have a favorite though and only one of those comes with any of the Apocryphal books.

I guess what I am trying to figure out is, if I am joining a liturgical church, do they put much emphasis on the apocrypha/deuterocanonical books or is reading a sixty-six book bible alright as well? If they are, I'm not sure which to choose.

Not a fan of the KJV. I didn't do well when it came to Shakespeare and the language of the KJV reminds me very much of that!

tampasteve · Oct 14, 2019

Most non-Catholic Western churches (Protestant, etc.) use the 66 book Bible using a number of translations. They view the Apocrypha in different manners, but with most Liturgical churches saying it is valuable and worthwhile, but not scripture. Most will not include it in a printing of the Bible.

There are many Versions/Translations of the Bible. Most of the liturgical churches using English as their language will have either the RSV, KJV, ESV, or NIV as their standard. The ELCA Lutheran church uses mostly the RSV, but sometimes one of the other versions. The LCMS Lutherans tend to use the ESV mostly. Most Episcopal churches will also use the KJV or RSV for the most part.

There are solid reasons for using a particular translation, serious study requires more than one version. However, casual reading and devotions can use any mainstream translation.

Anthony2019 · Oct 14, 2019

The church I belong is liturgical, and regards the apocrypha as non-canonical, but helpful for edification purposes. It is rarely used in church but may appear in Bibles and other texts.

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

tampasteve said:
However, casual reading and devotions can use any mainstream translation.

This is more where I fall into the scheme of things to be honest on a daily basis. In school, I didn't do much in the way of studying or note taking. I relied on memory to get me through testing and such. It worked well for me that way.

When it comes to the Bible I am the same way. I am more of a daily reader and devotion kinda guy. I actually get more out of the Bible that way then I do studying it or taking notes. I have tried many times and just got frustrated because I wasn't getting anything out of it.

Albion · Oct 14, 2019

Isilwen said:
I am curious and I didn't know where to put this at within the mass of forums here.

Do all liturgical type churches read from the apocrypha/deuterocanonical books?

The two most obvious non-Catholic churches in that category do, yes. Those are the Anglican and Lutheran churches. But it is done sparingly and neither of them considers these books to be part of the Bible or to be used to determine any doctrine, if that is part of your question.

I guess what I am trying to figure out is, if I am joining a liturgical church, do they put much emphasis on the apocrypha/deuterocanonical books or is reading a sixty-six book bible alright as well? If they are, I'm not sure which to choose.

There is little to choose between if the choice is Anglican vs Lutheran because neither of them does very much at all with any of the Apocryphal books and do not consider them divinely inspired, although they will read from them on occasion. Don't make this a big factor in your choice.

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

Albion said:
Those are the Anglican and Lutheran churches.

Anglican would include the Episcopal church as well?

Albion · Oct 14, 2019

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

Albion said:
Yes

Okay, thank you!

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

There is a vote for any mainstream translation for casual reading and devotions.

What do most of you prefer?

Carl Emerson · Oct 14, 2019

For study I use NASB and look at the Hebrew and Greek occasionally for clarification.

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

Carl Emerson said:
For study I use NASB and look at the Hebrew and Greek occasionally for clarification.

How about for reading?

I am not much of a studier and get more out of just reading it daily.

faroukfarouk · Oct 14, 2019

Isilwen said:
How about for reading?

I am not much of a studier and get more out of just reading it daily.

I must admit that I love to read the King James; it flows so majestically.

faroukfarouk · Oct 14, 2019

Isilwen said:
When it comes to the Bible I am the same way. I am more of a daily reader and devotion kinda guy.

So important to read God's Word daily, right?

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

faroukfarouk said:
So important to read God's Word daily, right?

Yes'sir!

Admittedly, I will take a break for a couple weeks from time to time. Let what I read kinda mill around in my head and then go back to reading again.

faroukfarouk · Oct 14, 2019

Isilwen said:
Yes'sir!

Admittedly, I will take a break for a couple weeks from time to time. Let what I read kinda mill around in my head and then go back to reading again.

My wife and I don't like to miss a day ...

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

faroukfarouk said:
My wife and I don't like to miss a day ...

Many don't miss a day and it works for them.

I have found that if I keep reading day in and day out, that my mind becomes mush to it all and I have to take a break anyway.

Does that make sense?

Arcangl86 · Oct 14, 2019

Isilwen said:
How about for reading?

I am not much of a studier and get more out of just reading it daily.

For personal devotional and worship use I tend to use the Revised English Bible, though it's not an ultra common translation.

Dave G. · Oct 14, 2019

My daily reader is NKJV, I sense authority in that version and so pretty much stick with it. I do read others but since I have 5 NKJV bibles in one form or another and one KJV, I pretty much hover right there. I too check into original languages but I use Strong's concordance online for that.

My wife will die with her Geneva bible in her hands lol, she judges all scipture by that one ! And nobody is telling her any different. And that's that.

Isilwen · Oct 14, 2019

Dave G. said:
My wife will die with her Geneva bible in her hands lol, she judges all scipture by that one ! And nobody is telling her any different. And that's that.

Lol. A very determined woman there!

faroukfarouk · Oct 14, 2019

Dave G. said:
My daily reader is NKJV, I sense authority in that version and so pretty much stick with it. I do read others but since I have 5 NKJV bibles in one form or another and one KJV, I pretty much hover right there. I too check into original languages but I use Strong's concordance online for that.

My wife will die with her Geneva bible in her hands lol, she judges all scipture by that one ! And nobody is telling her any different. And that's that.

I think the original Geneva Bible was very similar to the King James, only with various doctrinal notes added.

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