Christian newby questions...

Another_uniqueUsername said:

that its ok to eat pork

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It is not ok to eat pork. We should follow the diet guide given to us by Moses. We should also listen to what the doctors tell us. Although even with a PhD in nutrition people still do not agree on what the best foods to eat. Even with a PhD in Theology no one really knows what a proper Bible diet is. We know that the leading cause of death can be prevented with exercise and the right diet. My wife eats lots of veggies and she is pretty health, so I know you can not go wrong eating veggies.

What Jesus is talking about has to do with what defiles a man. "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks." (Luke 6:45) Heart disease is the leading cause of death but to have a pure heart requires the blood of Jesus along with Holy, Sanctified, Consecrated living.

"Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded." (James4:8)

Yes. All Sunday sabbath, tickling ears for monetary donations and all the while seek approval from passing men of the moment to do what God commands them to do anyway, all accept blasphemous coins and currency that gives allegiances to earthly kings or in my case (UK) profits a queen who is head of a worldly/earthly church that wishes to legalize homosexuality...

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We are now way off from the doctrinal objections you outlined in your earlier post, you know.

I believe every action (even every idle word muttered in private) will have to pass by the law as it is written and as Jesus told us.
I believe each individual has to earn his salvation based upon obedience to LAW.

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Another_uniqueUsername said:

Ok thanks to the person who after my introduction told me about this area for asking my questions..via a link. Thank you love

1: My GoodNews bible (or the author of this translation) states amongst Jesus' words in brackets () where its said that "Jesus declared all foods are fit for consumption"
(Mark or Matthew I think...sorry for poor quotation as Im on a mobile phone and I find difficult to copy and paste at present...its the "it is not what goes into a man but which comes out which defile him" quote...seems different depending on what bible you have)
Is Jesus talking about the sin of unclean foods, or does it mean should anyone say with his mouth (which comes out of a man/mans mouth) that its ok to eat pork (ie he who tells a lie against the instruction from God who commands man NOT to eat pork because it is forbidden) or is this a reference to bodily fluids/sperm if your a man?

2: Jesus (inc the OT prophets) makes many warnings about the "yeast" of the Pharisee , if this means the "expansion of their teachings" where does this leave Paul who says he is a Pharisee?

Thanks

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In Jesus’ day they did not have modern nutrition studies. Men who drink milk are more likely to get prostate cancer. Some people have life threatening allergies to peanuts. Someone else may not eat gluten because of Celiac disease. The World Health Organization categorized processed meat as a Group 1 carcinogen like tobacco. Women who drink more than three glasses of wine a week are at higher risk of breast cancer. The law of Moses is nowhere as good as faith in God.

Albion said:

Well, no. That mention was categorical, just like saying "Football fans are ___" or "Southerners are ___." The Pharisees had a reputation for showiness, for self-righteousness, which was shown by external acts that we might call "religious." So that kind of thing was said to be just like the Pharisees, but it doesn't mean that Paul was necessarily that way simply for being a Pharisee (a Jewish religious group) himself. (They had a good reputation when it came to other things, by the way).

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How dare you say that Southerners are blank? lol.

joshua 1 9 said:

It is not ok to eat pork. We should follow the diet guide given to us by Moses. We should also listen to what the doctors tell us. Although even with a PhD in nutrition people still do not agree on what the best foods to eat. Even with a PhD in Theology no one really knows what a proper Bible diet is. We know that the leading cause of death can be prevented with exercise and the right diet. My wife eats lots of veggies and she is pretty health, so I know you can not go wrong eating veggies.

What Jesus is talking about has to do with what defiles a man. "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart brings forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks." (Luke 6:45) Heart disease is the leading cause of death but to have a pure heart requires the blood of Jesus along with Holy, Sanctified, Consecrated living.

"Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded." (James4:8)

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Years ago the Atkins Diet was quite popular. A study showed people on the Atkins Diet were 23% more likely to die while on the diet. Atkins slipped on ice, hit his head and died. People should not recommend it to their friends and family.
Atkins Diet Mortality: Is Too Much Meat Killing Low-Carb Eaters?

Another_uniqueUsername said:

Can I ask you then what do you think Jesus meant when he said:

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
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All nations on earth will come under the judgement of God and the laws of his creation..

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I believe he meant it. It has been interpreted by some that when he said "it is finished" on the cross, everything he had been talking about in that verse was accomplished. I'm a bit flexible on that, though I will insist on what Paul insisted on in Colossians 2, and in the whole book of Galatians, and what the author of Hebrews wrote in that book. Either way, to me much of it does not matter - I have no Jewish heritage, and I was never under the Jewish law. God gave the world a few commands, he gave the Jews many commands - and knowledgeable, religious Jews will agree with this. I will happily love Jesus, trim the sides of my beard, wear blended clothing when convenient, and eat my bacon.

Another_uniqueUsername said:

He did your correct, but Paul did say in 2 Timothy 1.11 he was a teacher while Jesus said you only have one teacher. So what did Paul teach that Jesus hadn't already or did Paul mean something totally unrelated when he called himself a teacher? Luke said the pupil is not above his teacher.

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Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees for their pride in Matthew 23. They liked their titles, and they liked to be publicly honored for them. Paul on the other hand, was at risk. The Pharisees were greeted and honored in the marketplaces, Paul was often beaten and run out of town. He endured death threats, and was eventually executed by the Romans. When persecution hits, the teachers - pastors and missionaries and elders - are often targeted first. And James 3:1 says that teachers will be judged more strictly, as he says this, James is admitting that he is a teacher. And Jesus told his disciples to go forth and make more disciples, which makes them teachers by default.

dqhall said:

Years ago the Atkins Diet was quite popular.

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Science does not support the Atkins diet.

Another_uniqueUsername said:

Ok thanks to the person who after my introduction told me about this area for asking my questions..via a link. Thank you love

1: My GoodNews bible (or the author of this translation) states amongst Jesus' words in brackets () where its said that "Jesus declared all foods are fit for consumption"
(Mark or Matthew I think...sorry for poor quotation as Im on a mobile phone and I find difficult to copy and paste at present...its the "it is not what goes into a man but which comes out which defile him" quote...seems different depending on what bible you have)
Is Jesus talking about the sin of unclean foods, or does it mean should anyone say with his mouth (which comes out of a man/mans mouth) that its ok to eat pork (ie he who tells a lie against the instruction from God who commands man NOT to eat pork because it is forbidden) or is this a reference to bodily fluids/sperm if your a man?

2: Jesus (inc the OT prophets) makes many warnings about the "yeast" of the Pharisee , if this means the "expansion of their teachings" where does this leave Paul who says he is a Pharisee?

Thanks

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Jesus was not in disagreement with the Father about which laws we should follow, so he should not be interpreted as teaching against obeying what the Father has commanded, or as coming against the validity of Deuteronomy and Leviticus being Scripture. In John 14:24, he said that his teachings were not his own, but that of the Father. In Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from the Law, so if Jesus had done that, then he would have sinned and disqualified himself as our Savior. Likewise, in Deuteronomy 13:4-5, the way that God instructed His people to determine that someone is a false prophet who was not speaking for Him was if they taught against obeying His Law, so Jesus did not do that.

In Matthew 15:2-3, Jesus was asked why his disciples broke the traditions of the elders and he responded by asking them why they broke the commands of God for the sake of their tradition. He went on to say that for the sake of their tradition they made void the word of God (Matthew 15:6), that they were worshiping God in vain because they were teaching as doctrine the commands of God (Matthew 15:8-9), and that they were hypocrites for setting aside the commands of God in order to establish their own traditions (Mark 7:6-9). So again, Jesus should not be interpreted as even more hypocritically turning around and doing what he just finished criticizing the Pharisees as being hypocrites for doing. He was speaking in regard to a man-made tradition where someone could become common by eating with unwashed hand and he was still speaking against that at the end of the account in Matthew 15:20, so he never jumped topics to speaking against obeying the Father. It is far more reasonable to interpret him as simply sticking to the topic of conversation.

The year of the Pharisees has to do with their pride and lack of compassion.

Another_uniqueUsername said:

Jesus declared all foods are fit for consumption

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Just because I didn't see anyone else mention it, I wanted to add that this verse is translated very differently between translations. For example, the NASB translates it as:

19 because it does not go into his heart, but into his stomach, and is eliminated?” (Thus He declared all foods clean.

Which is essentially what the OP's translation says.

However, the NKJV translates it as:

19 because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, "thus purifying all foods?”

with the added footnote:

1. Mark 7:19 NU sets off the final phrase as Mark’s comment that Jesus has declared all foods clean.

So there is a bit of debate, looking at the original Greek, in terms of what was actually said here.

OP, as you can see you will receive different and contradictory advice. When in doubt focus on what Jesus said here:

Mark 12:30-31 NKJV
30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. 31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbour as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Then pray about whatever the situation is. If you are following those you won't go too far wrong. I would also suggest getting another version to read alongside the Good news, this tends to be a starters Bible. The one I like is the New Kings James which is the King James with more modernized language. It's okay not to understand everything at once but to grow into it and you will find you get more out of the same passage as you grow.

solid_core said:

But the Old Testament was not given to the whole world, only to one small nation - Israel - and only to the time of Christ, so it was temporary even for them.

This law is outdated by 2,000 years now...

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You need to read Mat 4:4

The OT & NT are GODS two witnesses.

Another_uniqueUsername said:

All Sunday sabbath

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Sabbath is the seventh day of the week not the first day.
Jesus rested in the tomb on the seventh day and arose on the first day of the week.
Proof of the seventh day Sabbath is the resurrection of Jesus on the first day.

Another_uniqueUsername said:

seems different depending on what bible you have)

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Use the King James Bible to compare with the one you are using and you will see a lot of differences.

Take time to watch this video for your edification

213 - Battle Of The Bibles - Amazing Discoveries TV

Another_uniqueUsername said:

Ok thanks to the person who after my introduction told me about this area for asking my questions..via a link. Thank you love

1: My GoodNews bible (or the author of this translation) states amongst Jesus' words in brackets () where its said that "Jesus declared all foods are fit for consumption"
(Mark or Matthew I think...sorry for poor quotation as Im on a mobile phone and I find difficult to copy and paste at present...its the "it is not what goes into a man but which comes out which defile him" quote...seems different depending on what bible you have)
Is Jesus talking about the sin of unclean foods, or does it mean should anyone say with his mouth (which comes out of a man/mans mouth) that its ok to eat pork (ie he who tells a lie against the instruction from God who commands man NOT to eat pork because it is forbidden) or is this a reference to bodily fluids/sperm if your a man?

2: Jesus (inc the OT prophets) makes many warnings about the "yeast" of the Pharisee , if this means the "expansion of their teachings" where does this leave Paul who says he is a Pharisee?

Thanks

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Malachi 3:6
For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

joshua 1 9 said:

Even with a PhD in Theology no one really knows what a proper Bible diet is.

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What's wrong with the original one?
Gen 1:29 KJV And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Death in the Kitchen | Free Book Library | Amazing Facts

Another_uniqueUsername said:

Can I ask you then what do you think Jesus meant when he said:

"For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
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All nations on earth will come under the judgement of God and the laws of his creation..

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Everything was accomplished by Jesus on the cross. As He said before His death: "its done".

solid_core said:

Everything was accomplished by Jesus on the cross. As He said before His death: "its done".

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For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18

Bro. Dave Gardner said:

For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18

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Yes, till all is fulfiled. By Jesus.

Or is "heaven and earth" confusing you? It was a common figure of speech in those days. Its not about some literal end of the Universe, if you think so.