Another person shot in their own home

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And what if she held the gun?

The police never identified themselves. She was fully in her right to be ready to defend herself from what must have appeared as a hostile home invasion. Right?

It's Texas - maybe she was "standing her ground"?
 
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He was called to the house...
He was called to the house after a call to the non-emergency line on a wellfare check. What kind of wellfare check includes sneaking to the bedroom window?

It doesn't matter. You'll continue to demand "more facts" until we forget about this.
 
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He was called to the house after a call to the non-emergency line on a wellfare check. What kind of wellfare check includes sneaking to the bedroom window?

Who calls for a welfare check because the front door is open? My guess is the kind of person too afraid of armed burglars to go knock on the door. Who goes for a gun instead of just seeing who is outside their house when they see flashlights? My guess is the kind of person who thinks it's armed burglars.

I don't know exactly what kind of neighborhood this is....but I strongly suspect that armed burglary is not exactly uncommon.

It doesn't matter. You'll continue to demand "more facts" until we forget about this.

Well I'm not assuming that the cop just felt like murdering someone.
 
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Who calls for a welfare check because the front door is open?
Well...in this case I suspect the kind that's never going to call the police about anything ever again. :sigh:

My guess is the kind of person too afraid of armed burglars to go knock on the door.
Or not, there could be any number of reasons. :wave:

Who goes for a gun instead of just seeing who is outside their house when they see flashlights?
so...it's been established she went for a gun? Or that she had a gun in her hand when someone shouted through a window at her? Or that she "went for a gun" when someone shouted at her and then shot and killed her? Or is what we do know is someone shouted at someone through a window and four seconds later he shot and killed her? :scratch:

My guess is the kind of person who thinks it's armed burglars.
And that's all the above is, a guess. What we know is "A well trained Fort Worth policeman yelled at a woman through a window and then shot and killed a woman in her own residence. Oh! and now there's a gun been found in the house. We we don't know where it was when she was killed but that's okay, all that's necessary to know is: there was a gun somewhere. :sigh:

I don't know exactly what kind of neighborhood this is....but I strongly suspect that armed burglary is not exactly uncommon.
Or it isn't common, because, again as you said: you don't know. :wave:

Well I'm not assuming that the cop just felt like murdering someone.
Probably not, but someone did end up dead. And he's the one who shot her, speculate all you like make any sort of excuse you like in the end: she's still dead and he still killed her. :sigh:
tulc(kind of wishes the person who was killed and her family would get a thought or two in this situation) :sorry:
 
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Well...in this case I suspect the kind that's never going to call the police about anything ever again. :sigh:

Perhaps.

Or not, there could be any number of reasons. :wave:

Feel free to float some that would keep him from just walking over and knocking.

so...it's been established she went for a gun?

Of course not....the investigation is just beginning. It's possible she just happened to get shot in a room with a gun in the vicinity...by coincidence. Seems unlikely, but possible. Depends where the gun was found.

Or it isn't common, because, again as you said: you don't know. :wave:

We could probably find out...

Probably not, but someone did end up dead. And he's the one who shot her, speculate all you like make any sort of excuse you like in the end: she's still dead and he still killed her. :sigh:
tulc(kind of wishes the person who was killed and her family would get a thought or two in this situation) :sorry:

Well that's why I wait for the facts before laying blame.
 
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Well that's why I wait for the facts before laying blame.
..."laying blame"? There's no question as to who's to blame here, one person is dead and the other person shot her. "laying blame" sounds like there's some way she's at fault for getting shot. :sorry:
tulc(is going to go get more coffee) :coffee:
 
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Shooting someone is never justified?
hmmm...those goal posts do seem to shifting around an awful lot in this thread, we've gone from "let's wait to see who's "to blame" for a woman getting shot in her own home" to "Is it ever wrong to shoot someone else?". All in pretty much the blink of an eye. You asked "who should be blamed for shooting a woman in her own home?" I pointed out it would probably be the police officer who shot her. Now suddenly it seems we're discussing who/when can we justifiably shoot and not get in trouble for doing so? That kind of sounds like the subject for another thread to me. :wave:
tulc(isn't sure who else can be "to blame" in this situation except the person who did the shooting) :sorry:
 
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From the available information to date, it simply makes no sense why a policeman would sneak into the backyard -- unannounced -- draw his weapon and kill a 28 year old woman - who just minutes before, was playing video games with her nephew.
 
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hmmm...those goal posts do seem to shifting around an awful lot in this thread, we've gone from "let's wait to see who's "to blame" for a woman getting shot in her own home" to "Is it ever wrong to shoot someone else?". All in pretty much the blink of an eye. You asked "who should be blamed for shooting a woman in her own home?" I pointed out it would probably be the police officer who shot her. Now suddenly it seems we're discussing who/when can we justifiably shoot and not get in trouble for doing so? That kind of sounds like the subject for another thread to me. :wave:
tulc(isn't sure who else can be "to blame" in this situation except the person who did the shooting) :sorry:

To blame...to find fault or assign responsibility for doing wrong.

Justified....have shown a just right or reasonable basis.

If you're saying he's "responsible" for shooting her....sure. I don't think that's the same as blaming him though.
 
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You really believe that? The police go around scaring people just to give them an excuse to kill them?
Well, not all the police all the time, of course. They also need to bring some people in for slave labor in privately owned prisons.
 
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There is an awful lot of guessing going on in this thread. Until we know exactly why the police were there in the first place it's impossible to know or understand what happened. Police tactics change depending on the circumstances of the call.

We know why the police were there, the neighbour rang the non-emergency police line to say the neighbours door was open. We also have the body cam footage in which the officer is moving around the side of the house, never identifies themselves, and there's 2 seconds between "put your hands up" and the shooting.

What more do you need?
 
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We know why the police were there, the neighbour rang the non-emergency police line to say the neighbours door was open. We also have the body cam footage in which the officer is moving around the side of the house, never identifies themselves, and there's 2 seconds between "put your hands up" and the shooting.

What more do you need?
My guess would be more facts.

You always need more facts when the available facts aren't to your liking.
 
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