Trump calls on Adam Schiff to resign immediately!

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From the "Who's in the hot seat now", files: Trump calls on Adam Schiff to resign immediately!

"Rep. Adam Schiff fraudulently read to Congress, with millions of people watching, a version of my conversation with the President of Ukraine that doesn’t exist. He was supposedly reading the exact transcribed version of the call, but he completely changed the words to make it sound horrible, and me sound guilty. HE WAS DESPERATE AND HE GOT CAUGHT. Adam Schiff therefore lied to Congress and attempted to defraud the American Public. He has been doing this for two years. I am calling for him to immediately resign from Congress based on this fraud!"​

Lie number 1 - it wasn’t an exact transcript
Lie number 2 - Schiff’s mob boss ‘parody’ does not change the substance of the partial, rough transcript that was released
Overall lie - there is no fraud whatsoever. As the king of fraud, I’m sure Donny knows that.

Schiff did a mob boss imitation then read out the rough, partial transcript verbatim. Why should he resign?
 
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Lie number 1 - it wasn’t an exact transcript

Then why are the contents of it being used against Trump, as if it is exact?

Lie number 2 - Schiff’s mob boss ‘parody’ does not change the substance of the partial, rough transcript that was released

But his reading of it that way wasn't truthful to what the transcript actually said. Therefore, it was a lie.

Overall lie - there is no fraud whatsoever. As the king of fraud, I’m sure Donny knows that.

Now you're simply flaming.

Schiff did a mob boss imitation then read out the rough, partial transcript verbatim. Why should he resign?

Because democrats care so much about truth that they should demand it of their own people, especially the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.
 
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Then why are the contents of it being used against Trump, as if it is exact?



But his reading of it that way wasn't truthful to what the transcript actually said. Therefore, it was a lie.



Now you're simply flaming.



Because democrats care so much about truth that they should demand it of their own people, especially the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.


You can easily answer your own points by looking into it, there are plenty of credible news sources you can use.
 
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You can easily answer your own points by looking into it, there are plenty of credible news sources you can use.

Since you posted so many things in post #321 that appeared to come from someone with credibility, I figured I'd ask you. You assert that so many statements are lies and that Trump is a liar, so I'd like to see you back that up with something other than telling me to look at news sources.
 
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Since you posted so many things in post #321 that appeared to come from someone with credibility, I figured I'd ask you. You assert that so many statements are lies and that Trump is a liar, so I'd like to see you back that up with something other than telling me to look at news sources.

If you can find out about the relevant events then there’d be something to discuss. A discussion about what you imagine about them doesn’t have any boundaries to it, we’d just go round in circles.
 
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Then why not just let that play out in 2020?

Because the House got a report from one of Donald's appointees that there was a credible and urgent need to investigate his illegal activities. It's been all over the news recently, perhaps you've read about it?
 
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Then why are the contents of it being used against Trump, as if it is exact?

Because the White House released it as an accurate summary of the content of the calls. If you're saying that they intentionally released something misleading, that sure sounds like another case of obstruction that needs to be investigated.

But his reading of it that way wasn't truthful to what the transcript actually said.

Not in any way anyone's been able to demonstrate.
 
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Because the White House released it as an accurate summary of the content of the calls. If you're saying that they intentionally released something misleading, that sure sounds like another case of obstruction that needs to be investigated.

You can't have it both ways. If the transcript is something the dems now want to call "intentionally misleading" while also using it as a basis for impeachment, then they've got a rough road to travel if they want to go ahead with these hearings. It's also a method that will surely backfire on them.
 
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Then why are the contents of it being used against Trump, as if it is exact?

But his reading of it that way wasn't truthful to what the transcript actually said. Therefore, it was a lie.

Now you're simply flaming.

Because democrats care so much about truth that they should demand it of their own people, especially the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

Schiff's reading of the transcript was prefaced by a commentary specifically explaining he was summarizing and reading between the lines.

The lie was when Trump, at his last campaign rally, falsely claimed that Schiff made up words and attributed them to Trump. That's not at all what he did, despite the insistence of Trump supporters.

Trump and his supporters continue to show themselves as defining "truth" as whatever supports Trump, consistently ignoring all facts that run counter to their narrative.
 
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Schiff's reading of the transcript was prefaced by a commentary specifically explaining he was summarizing and reading between the lines.

The lie was when Trump, at his last campaign rally, falsely claimed that Schiff made up words and attributed them to Trump. That's not at all what he did, despite the insistence of Trump supporters.

And yet the supporters of Schiff and impeachment continue parroting the words of Schiff's parody to make their claims. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

Trump and his supporters continue to show themselves as defining "truth" as whatever supports Trump, consistently ignoring all facts that run counter to their narrative.

That's mere projection.
 
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And yet the supporters of Schiff and impeachment continue parroting the words of Schiff's parody to make their claims. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.
What "both ways"? Way 1 - Schiff did not pretend to do an exact reading of the rough transcript, he gave a satirical summary. Way 2 - people use the same terms of the summary when describing the transcript. These are not two different ways to have, but the same way.

That's mere projection.
No, it really isn't.
 
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Since you posted so many things in post #321 that appeared to come from someone with credibility, I figured I'd ask you. You assert that so many statements are lies and that Trump is a liar, so I'd like to see you back that up with something other than telling me to look at news sources.
You really don't believe Trump lies.
 
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What "both ways"? Way 1 - Schiff did not pretend to do an exact reading of the rough transcript, he gave a satirical summary. Way 2 - people use the same terms of the summary when describing the transcript. These are not two different ways to have, but the same way.

Both ways:
1. Using the words of the transcript to use Trump's words against him.
2. Changing the language used by Schiff as a "parody", and then using THOSE words instead.
 
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You really don't believe Trump lies.

I believe almost everyone in politics lies. I also believe that Trump's opponents lie, and are doing so in desperation. They do it so transparently that it's not hard to see. Even the media is doing it to the point that they'll play a video of Trump making a statement, and then follow up with their own commentary that actually claims he said something different. It hardly gets more transparent than that.
 
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Both ways:
1. Using the words of the transcript to use Trump's words against him.
2. Changing the language used by Schiff as a "parody", and then using THOSE words instead.
And why can't they have both ways when the two ways complement each other and are not mutually exclusive? You and I don't have to quote Donald's exact words every time we refer to what he said.
 
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Then why are the contents of it being used against Trump, as if it is exact?
You don't know what is being used against Trump. None of us do, and won't until the results of the investigation become Articles of Impeachment.



But his reading of it that way wasn't truthful to what the transcript actually said. Therefore, it was a lie.
And everybody listening knew it wasn't and wasn't intended to be. No one who was paying attention thought it was a verbatim reading of the transcript.
 
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And yet the supporters of Schiff and impeachment continue parroting the words of Schiff's parody to make their claims. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

That's mere projection.

Feel free to post evidence Schiff supporters quoting Schiff and claiming they were Trump's words. I'll be waiting.

I'm not having it both ways. Schiff gave a summary of Trump's phone call as he understood it. He never claimed to be quoting Trump or reading the summary. Trump and his acolytes saying that he did this are the ones who are lying, and continue to lie about it, even after showing the full context of Schiff's statements which make it all too clear.
 
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And why can't they have both ways when the two ways complement each other and are not mutually exclusive? You and I don't have to quote Donald's exact words every time we refer to what he said.

It's also not necessary to twist his words and make things up in order to make a case against him. Or is it? :idea:
 
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You must have misunderstood what I wrote. Perhaps go back and read it. Ask if you have questions.

I wrote in response to your post. The only question I have is, "Why are you not understanding when you could just go back and see for yourself what you wrote and then read my response?"
 
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