A Woman Rides The Beast

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Could it be that God used pagan imagery to give us a clue on the background or traits of this End Time entity?I don't really know how to interpret this but "A Woman Rides The Beast" from the Book of Revelation is all I could think of when I saw these Hindu images. Here are images of Hindu goddesses literally riding beasts!

And if that's not enough here's a picture of our old friend Ashtoreth. Let's compare shall we.
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There are shadows of truth in many of the world's religions. Indeed, even the old Western Pagan religions had similarities that helped early converts understand. Virgin births, resurrections, etc. were all part of the pagan religions in Egypt and Rome/Greece. So, yes, I could see that there might be a connection in this case as well.
 
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There are shadows of truth in many of the world's religions.
Er...I didn't mean that in a positive way. By associating the images with the Beast, I was saying that the Woman(or women) who rides the Beast is something negative.
 
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Er...I didn't mean that in a positive way. By associating the images with the Beast, I was saying that the Woman(or women) who rides the Beast is something negative.
Truth can be negative or positive - it is more or less neutral. In this case it is possible the images you shared were shadows to help assist non-believers in seeing the Christian eschatological point of view. :)
 
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Could it be that God used pagan imagery to give us a clue on the background or traits of this End Time entity?I don't really know how to interpret this but "A Woman Rides The Beast" from the Book of Revelation is all I could think of when I saw these Hindu images. Here are images of Hindu goddesses literally riding beasts!

And if that's not enough here's a picture of our old friend Ashtoreth. Let's compare shall we.
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In Sumerian iconography several gods rode various beasts just like you see depicted here. The beast here in revelation would be lotan which is Leviathan in Hebrew. I wish I knew more about it because I think there is something to this. It's on my to do list of things to study.
 
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In Sumerian iconography several gods rode various beasts just like you see depicted here. The beast here in revelation would be lotan which is Leviathan in Hebrew. I wish I knew more about it because I think there is something to this. It's on my to do list of things to study.
Let me know what you found. Also there is a seven headed snake in Hindu mythology called Shesha. Seven heads,just like the Beast of Revelation.
 
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Let me know what you found. Also there is a seven headed snake in Hindu mythology called Shesha. Seven heads,just like the Beast of Revelation.
It's all the same creature. In Babylon it's Mushussu the lion dragon (same creature depicted without the 7 heads). There are 6 beasts that seem to get pulled in to the iconography of Lotan, but there is insufficient mythology about it
 
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Could it be that God used pagan imagery to give us a clue on the background or traits of this End Time entity?I don't really know how to interpret this but "A Woman Rides The Beast" from the Book of Revelation is all I could think of when I saw these Hindu images. Here are images of Hindu goddesses literally riding beasts!

And if that's not enough here's a picture of our old friend Ashtoreth. Let's compare shall we.
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Very interesting. I have never seen these images. However, I have seen images of Europa riding a bull. The story is that Zeus turned himself into a bull and carried(kidnapped) the maid Europa off to Crete.
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Here is a two Euro coin with the image of Europa riding a bull.
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Europe is named for Europa.
 
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Very interesting. I have never seen these images. However, I have seen images of Europa riding a bull. The story is that Zeus turned himself into a bull and carried(kidnapped) the maid Europa off to Crete.
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Here is a two Euro coin with the image of Europa riding a bull.
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Europe is named for Europa.
Bullseye!Good that somebody mentioned Europa before I did.
 
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Could it be that God used pagan imagery to give us a clue on the background or traits of this End Time entity?I don't really know how to interpret this but "A Woman Rides The Beast" from the Book of Revelation is all I could think of when I saw these Hindu images. Here are images of Hindu goddesses literally riding beasts!

And if that's not enough here's a picture of our old friend Ashtoreth. Let's compare shall we.
Hello and welcome to CF.
Biblically, I could view the Woman/harlot/great City as none other than 1st century 70AD Jerusalem riding on the beast of Rome......Rome came against Jerusalem in 70Ad as shown in Revelation 17 and 18.........hope this helps

Jhn 11:48

“If we let Him alone like this, everyone will believe in Him, and the Romans will come and take away us and the place and the nation.”

Jhn 19:15
But they cried out, “Away with Him, away with Him! Crucify Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?” The chief priests answered, “We have no king but Caesar!”
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The 1st century Roman currency:
Denarius - Wikipedia
It was the principal silver coin of the Roman empire. From the parable of the labourers in the vineyard, it would seem that a denarius was then the ordinary pay for a day's wages. (Mt. 20:2-13)
(see that page for further discussion).
Revelation 6:6
And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "a measure of grain/wheat a denari and three measures of barleys a denari, and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring"."


The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:


The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover....................

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The Great City/Harlot/Queen Revelation chapts 17-19

Revelation 17:
15 And He is saying to me "These the Waters which thou saw, where the harlot is sitting, peoples and multitudes are being, and nations and tongues.
16 And the ten Horns which thou saw and the Beast, These shall be hating the harlot, and shall be making Her desolate and naked, and the fleshes of Her they shall be eating
and shall be burning Her in fire.

17 For the GOD gives<1325> into Their hearts to do<4160> the mind<1106> of Him, and to do One mind and to give Their kingdom to the Beast until shall be being finished<5055> the words of the GOD.
18 and the Woman whom thou saw is being the great City,
the one having a kingdom<932> over the kings of the land.’

Revelation 18:
8 Thru this in one day shall be arriving Her blows, death and sorrow and famine.

And in fire She shall be utterly burned, that strong Lord the GOD, the One judging Her.
19 and they cast dust upon their heads, and cried<2896>, lamenting<2799>, weeping and mourning<3996>, saying,
"Woe! woe! the great City! in which are rich all those having ships<4143> in the sea, out of Her preciousness<5094>,
for to one hour was She was desolated.
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An interesting commentary............

Revelation 17: A Preterist Commentary - Revelation Revolution


The “A.D. 70 Doctrine” and Revelation 17:16: Why Did the Beast and the Ten Horns Hate the Prostitute?


The beast and the ten horns hate the prostitute because like any prostitute she is not faithful to one man. In the beginning of Revelation 17 Jerusalem is depicted in the act of adultery with Rome. However, first-century apostate Jerusalem does not remain faithful to the beast and proves to be unfaithful even to Rome when in A.D. 66 Israel revolted against Rome, her lover. This metaphorical infidelity was largely the result of Florus’ anti-Semitic policies in the region which pushed the Zealots into revolt. But not all of Israel wanted independence and war. A large segment of the aged and wealthy wanted peace and thus allied themselves with Rome while many of the poorer, younger Jews wanted independence in fulfillment of Matthew 10:21. Because of this discord and division in loyalty, Jerusalem is symbolized as a prostitute who is naturally unfaithful to any one lover. Because of Jerusalem’s lack of loyalty to Rome she is hated by the beast and the ten horns who ultimately destroy her in A.D 70.

Revelation 17:16 Preterist Commentary: Death by Burning was the Punishment for a Prostitute Who was the Daughter of a Priest according to the Law.


In Revelation 17:16, Jerusalem, the harlot of Babylon, is stripped naked and burned with fire. Death by burning was the prescribed punishment for a prostitute who was the daughter of a priest according to the Leviticus 21:9: “[T]he daughter of any priest, if she profanes herself by harlotry, she profanes her father; she shall be burned with fire.”

Revelation 17:16-17 Preterist Commentary: The Beast, Titus and Vespasian, and the Ten Horns destroyed the Prostitute, Jerusalem.

The Roman legions and auxiliary cohorts besieged Jerusalem in A.D. 70. As a consequence of this siege, Jerusalem was burned to the ground. Roberts, David. The Siege and Destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans Under the Command of Titus, A.D. 70 . 1850. Yeshiva University Museum, New York.

Almost seven hundred years before Revelation was written, the prophet Ezekiel also accused Jerusalem of being a prostitute; and in Ezekiel 16:35-41, the prophet warned that Jerusalem would be destroyed by her lovers. As promised, Jerusalem was destroyed by Babylon in 597 B.C. History repeats itself. In the first century, Jerusalem is again caught in an adulterous affair, this time with Rome. And like the prophet Ezekiel, John sees Jerusalem burned and destroyed by her lover, an event that soon came to pass in A.D. 70.88 Like a prostitute at work, Jerusalem is left naked in v. 16. Nakedness is a Biblical metaphor for desolation.89

18The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

Preterism, A Commentary of Revelation 17:18: Jerusalem is the Great City that Rules over the Kings of the Earth, Israel.


As implied in v. 18, Babylon is the chief city of the earth. As Israel’s religious capital, Jerusalem reigns over Israel, the earth. Because of donations to the Temple from Jews all over the known world, first century Jerusalem was an immensely wealthy city. Thus it is not surprising that Josephus calls Jerusalem “that great city”90 which “was supreme and presided over the neighboring country as the head does over the body[.]”91 Similarly, in 4QLam of the Dead Sea Scrolls Jerusalem is called “princess of all nations.”92
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Matthew 24, Mark 13 and Luke's Temple/Jerusalem Discourses harmonized
Matt 24:6 Wars rumors of Wars


Visual Timeline of the Roman-Jewish War ARTchive

CHRONOLOGY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE WAR

Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62

Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66
Stage 3: The Campaign of Cestius Gallus and the Defeat of the Twelfth Legion: October-November 66
Stage 4: End of Collaborative Government, Priesthood ; General Flight: November 66 - March 67
Part 6: Vespasian Subdues Northern and Western Palestine: December 66 - December 68
Part 7: Three-way Power Struggle within Jerusalem After Roman Retreat: January 68 - May 70
Part 8: Romans Breach City Walls and Leave Jerusalem Desolate: May 10 - September 10, 70
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CAST OF CHARACTERS: Roman: Emperor Nero | General Vespasian | General Titus | The Roman Army || Jewish: General / Historian Josephus | Factional Leaders in Jerusalem || Administrators of Roman Judea Targets: Jerusalem | Herod's Temple // Maps of the Roman Invasion // Theological Timeline

 
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Just in case my message is misinterpreted, I want to make it clear that I'm not a religious pluralist. I don't like Baal, Dagon or Ashtoreth and I'm not saying that "just because the Bible and books of other religions have similar images then it makes all religions the same."
 
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Just in case my message is misinterpreted, I want to make it clear that I'm not a religious pluralist. I don't like Baal, Dagon or Ashtoreth and I'm not saying that "just because religions have similar images then it makes all religions the same."
Understood, and thanks for sharing your thoughts. However there are many various opinions about the subject of the OP. My suggestion, eat the wheat, spit out the chaff, and keep it moving. It is an interesting subject. :) Have you seen Dave Hunt's A Woman Rides The Beast commentary video? It is just another perspective to consider even though it is heavy with Hunt's religious bias. Be persuaded by your own mind.
 
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Your images are not working for me.

Who is the beast? We know its number is 666. Take the name of Allah in Arabic and put two crossed swords underneath (the swords of Islam.) Rotate to the left 90 degrees. What do you get? In Greek numbers, you get 600, 60 and 6.

Who rides the beast? Which nation has the name of Allah on its flag?

Make a list of the nations you hate the most. Any of them have the name of Allah on its flag?
 
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Who is the beast? We know its number is 666. Take the name of Allah in Arabic and put two crossed swords underneath (the swords of Islam.) Rotate to the left 90 degrees. What do you get? In Greek numbers, you get 600, 60 and 6.
There are also alternative methods to get the 666 number from the names of other individuals and even organizations in history. They can't ALL be the Beast.
Who rides the beast? Which nation has the name of Allah on its flag?

Make a list of the nations you hate the most. Any of them have the name of Allah on its flag?
The Islamic nations are most likely the King of the South that the Antichristian King of the North will defeat before ruling the world.
 
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Could it be that God used pagan imagery to give us a clue on the background or traits of this End Time entity?

Shared culture might even make the rise of this end time entity swifter. People will follow a system because something in it seems familiar to them.
 
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Could it be that God used pagan imagery to give us a clue on the background or traits of this End Time entity?I don't really know how to interpret this but "A Woman Rides The Beast" from the Book of Revelation is all I could think of when I saw these Hindu images. Here are images of Hindu goddesses literally riding beasts!

And if that's not enough here's a picture of our old friend Ashtoreth. Let's compare shall we.
NYbTgbA.jpg
God is All Knowing, He doesn't need to use anything assoc. with paganism, Satan uses what hes learned about God to mimic what God's going to do, then people fall for it. Satan knew the word, and that God would send a redeemer to die. Thus he set up false Babylonian Religions that mimic the story of Jesus' redemption and resurrection.

As per the Woman riding the Beast, this is so simple its frustrating to see people grasping at straws and guessing here. The Woman = False Religion and the Beast = False Governance under Satan.

They have been co-mingled down through time, specifically since Babylon via Nimrod and Semiramis. Thus when the Harlot is mentioned in Rev. 17, she is DESCRIBED with four different descriptors, Mystery {Mystery Religions that God reveals to us staring in verse 17:8 so its NOT a Mystery anymore} Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots {Semiramis birthed False Religion} and Abominations of All the Earth{God is a JEALOUS God, any worship of any god is an ABOMINATION}

We over complicate this tbh.

The reason the Kings in league with the Beast DESTROYS the Harlot in Rev. 17:16 is also simple, the Beast DEMANDS to be worshiped as the ONLY GOD, thus all other Religions must CEASE their existence. Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism etc. all will be destroyed. ALL must worship the Beast or die.
 
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God is All Knowing, He doesn't need to use anything assoc. with paganism,
You misunderstand. When I said that He used pagan imagery, I do not mean He made use of something related to paganism. I meant that He merely gave us clues to the traits of the Woman and the Beast by pointing out to us how similar the Beast would "look" like to pagan imagery so that when we see the pagan images somewhere else,we can recognize the "Beastliness" of it. It's a little hard to explain.

Satan uses what hes learned about God to mimic what God's going to do, then people fall for it. Satan knew the word, and that God would send a redeemer to die. Thus he set up false Babylonian Religions that mimic the story of Jesus' redemption and resurrection.
I already know about this beforehand and couldn't agree more
As per the Woman riding the Beast, this is so simple its frustrating to see people grasping at straws and guessing here. The Woman = False Religion and the Beast = False Governance under Satan.

They have been co-mingled down through time, specifically since Babylon via Nimrod and Semiramis.
At what point are we disagreeing again?
 
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