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Trump is doing an investigation on Joe Biden and his son for corruption in office.
Joe Biden isn't in office and his son never was. It is not the place for presidents to do investigations on their political rivals and it is corrupt to coerce foreign governments to do it by withholding duly appropriated funds.

That is what this is all about. That is they way they run elections.
In Banana Republics, not here, supposedly.

Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and clean up the corruption in Washington and people are not giving up their plush jobs without a fight.
What Donald says and what Donald does oftentimes don't match. He has filled his administration's positions with lobbyists. Again, the Bidens don't have jobs, plush or otherwise, in Washington.

"But there is a legitimate question as to whether it was appropriate for Hunter Biden to seemingly cash in on his father's name and serve on the board of a Ukrainian gas company when his vice president father was the point man for the country in the Obama administration."
True, but it was not illegal despite Donald's lies to the contrary.

Yes this is all about Biden:
No, it's about Donald corruptly using his office for personal gain.
 
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It is not the place for presidents to do investigations on their political rivals
Why are you worried? Does Joe have something to hide that you do not want exposed? Even Trump admits Joe is a pretty good guy but the real problem was Obama and his corruption.
 
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Trump is doing an investigation on Joe Biden and his son for corruption in office. That is what this is all about. Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and clean up the corruption in Washington and people are not giving up their plush jobs without a fight.

"But there is a legitimate question as to whether it was appropriate for Hunter Biden to seemingly cash in on his father's name and serve on the board of a Ukrainian gas company when his vice president father was the point man for the country in the Obama administration."
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Trump is the one, that brought the swamp in. He's just trying to dirty an innocent man. Because he believes, that the only reason to be reelected. I cant believe people really think Trump is a good person.
 
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I cant believe people really think Trump is a good person.
Trump is a good person because he follows the law. That is what it means to be good. Lawless people do not understand that. For them a "good" person is someone that agrees with them and supports them in their lawlessness. Reminds me of my son one day when he put his shirt on inside out and backwards. He thought everything was fine and did not know there was a problem. A lot of people do not even realize how far man's law is getting away from God's law.
 
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Trump is a good person because he follows the law. That is what it means to be good. Lawless people do not understand that. For them a "good" person is someone that agrees with them and supports them in their lawlessness. Reminds me of my son one day when he put his shirt on inside out and backwards. He thought everything was fine and did not know there was a problem. A lot of people do not even realize how far man's law is getting away from God's law.
Trump is not a good person, and doesn't follow the law. I cant believe religious people believe this.
 
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Trump is not a good person, and doesn't follow the law. I cant believe religious people believe this.
Of course he does. He is to busy to be looking over his shoulder to see if he is going to get caught or not. "To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure." (Titus 1:15)
 
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Everyday they talk about impeachments. In fact, if you turned off the TV for 2 years and turn it back on, it would be about impeachments.

Listen folks, these actors are there to waste your time.



Most of the labourers are too busy watching the left (nbc, cnn etc) vs right (fox etc) teLIEvision news guberment controlled broadcast.

It's called prepackaged news, the stations just slap a network label on it:
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I don’t recall any kind of impeachment talk about Obama.
 
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Trump is doing an investigation on Joe Biden and his son for corruption in office. That is what this is all about. Trump said he was going to drain the swamp and clean up the corruption in Washington and people are not giving up their plush jobs without a fight.

"But there is a legitimate question as to whether it was appropriate for Hunter Biden to seemingly cash in on his father's name and serve on the board of a Ukrainian gas company when his vice president father was the point man for the country in the Obama administration."
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...so that would be "No I don't have any sort of evidence vice President Biden is under investigation by anyone anywhere.". :wave:
tulc(was pretty sure that was the case) ;)
 
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According to Trump the "crazy - corrupt - radical democrats" know that they do not stand a chance to win the election. So they are conducting an Illegal - Invalid - unconstitutional Impeachment proceedings.

According to observation, Donald is getting desperate.
 
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Yes they are. Because it is to easy to accuse them for political reasons as we see in this situation.
No one should be considered or allowed to be above or beyond the law, no matter who they are, that's how dictatorships are formed/started, and dictatorship movements are started, and we should all know what that leads to after that, and if we don't, just look at history...

America was formed and founded on, or in part, for not allowing that to happen here, but that's exactly what were seeing with someone like Trump and his "movement", etc...

And that may be what a lot of people are against, etc...

"Freedom" (democracy, etc) soon becomes meaningless with a dictator and a dictatorship in charge...

(Star Wars episode 3 also comes to mind)...

"This is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause"

"Anakin, my allegiance is to the republic, to democracy!"

"If you not with/for me, then your my enemy"

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes"

"I will do what I must"

"You will try"


Or if not movies, just look at history, that's where they got it from anyway...

Also where our founding fathers got it from also...

God Bless!
 
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Trump is a good person because he follows the law. That is what it means to be good. Lawless people do not understand that. For them a "good" person is someone that agrees with them and supports them in their lawlessness. Reminds me of my son one day when he put his shirt on inside out and backwards. He thought everything was fine and did not know there was a problem. A lot of people do not even realize how far man's law is getting away from God's law.

Unbelievable....

Was he “following the law” when he paid off a inappropriate content star he was having an affair with, so she wouldn’t harm his election chances...?
 
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Unbelievable....

Was he “following the law” when he paid off a inappropriate content star he was having an affair with, so she wouldn’t harm his election chances...?
Actually I think New Jersey law does require inappropriate content star mistresses be paid for their silence.
 
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America was formed and founded on, or in part, for not allowing that to happen here, but that's exactly what were seeing with someone like Trump and his "movement", etc...

And ironically the UK (and other European countries) that the US was trying to escape from and improve upon, the idea today of a political leader being above the law is absolutely unacceptable to all sides. Boris Johnson is under investigation for corruption at the moment, and absolutely no-one is suggesting he should be above the law due to being Prime Minister.
 
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By which US law enforcement agency?
Trump was doing the investigation himself. It was still informal. If it had not been for the "whistle blower" none of this would have been made public. Making this issue public goes a long way to hurting Biden bid for president because of all the negative press he is getting. People think they are attacking Trump. Usually whenever there is a scandal Trump comes out smelling like a rose. Joe public is not going to think anything of Trump asking question about Biden and his son.
 
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...so that would be "No I don't have any sort of evidence vice President Biden is under investigation by anyone anywhere.". :wave:
tulc(was pretty sure that was the case) ;)
If there were evidence one way or the other, that would be due process of law and then we would lose our opportunity to try him in the press. Remember the liberals are the one that want to drag his good name though the mud. What Trump said about Biden was said in a private phone conversation between leading state officials. But the liberals even more exact the democrat's want to make a private conversation public.
 
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The following from Wikipedia

Clause 5: Speaker and other officers; Impeachment[edit]

The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section Two further provides that the House of Representatives may choose its Speaker and its other officers. Though the Constitution does not mandate it, every Speaker has been a member of the House of Representatives.[33] The Speaker rarely presides over routine House sessions, choosing instead to deputize a junior member to accomplish the task.

Finally, Section Two grants to the House of Representatives the sole power of impeachment. Although the Supreme Court has not had an occasion to interpret this specific provision, the Court has suggested that the grant to the House of the "sole" power of impeachment makes the House the exclusive interpreter of what constitutes an impeachable offense.[34]

This power, which is analogous to the bringing of criminal charges by a grand jury, has been used only rarely.[35] The House has begun impeachment proceedings 62 times since 1789, and nineteen federal officials have been formally impeached as a result, including: two Presidents (Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton), one Cabinet Secretary (William W. Belknap), one Senator (William Blount), one Supreme Court Associate Justice (Samuel Chase), and fourteen federal judges. Also, notably, impeachment proceedings compelled the resignation of President Richard Nixon.

The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. Until the early 20th century, a House member could rise and propose an impeachment, which would then be assigned to a committee for investigation. Presently, it is the House Judiciary Committee that initiates the process and then, after investigating the allegations, prepares recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes to adopt an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution. These Representatives subsequently become the prosecution team in the impeachment trial in the Senate (see Section 3, Clause 6 below).[35]
 
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