Why many will not vote Democratic

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The radical left is vulgar, violent and racist


Well, the radical right has almost all the neo-Nazis so I think they might still win. (Assuming we are truly talking about the RADICAL ends of the spectra.)
 
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I like to think of it as clawback of ill gotten gains :clap:

Only minutes ago we were talking about 'what Jesus would do;' and now we've gone all the way in the opposite direction to applauding the idea of 'two wrongs make a right.' :sigh:
 
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They sure are not Republican. They shout the political partisan bikinis of the left, they support Democratic candidates, objectives and goals.

Antifa are very much the face of the far left Democratic Party.

Glad I could help, you are welcome also.
No, antifa is incredibly critical of Democrats and you will not find one of them supporting dem candidates.
 
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Well, the radical right has almost all the neo-Nazis so I think they might still win. (Assuming we are truly talking about the RADICAL ends of the spectra.)

There's a reason I call them the "alt" right -- "alt" to what anymore?
 
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However, Antifa responds to calls for action from prominent Democrats....
Profoundly misleading and you almost certainly know this. Why, then, are you engaging in inappropriate, irresponsible debating behaviour?

It cannot possibly have escaped you that just because someone calls for action on X, this does not mean that violent means to achieve X are being endorsed.

Again, you have to have known this when you posted.
 
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It cannot possibly have escaped you that just because someone calls for action on X, this does not mean that violent means to achieve X are being endorsed.
As I pick my jaw up from the floor I have to reply that someone seems not to have followed the actual calls to action that have gone out.

Here is some information that can help anyone catch up on the facts of the matter.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo..._to_condemn_antifa_their_own_brownshirts.html

Scalise Blames Dems for Threats, Violence Against Republicans

https://100percentfedup.com/six-pro...violence-americans-dont-agree-politics-video/
 
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The radical left is vulgar, violent and racist in actions to people who disagree with them.
So is the leader of the Republican Party - less violent in action than in call to action, but as vulgar and racist as any I've seen.

Also, I don't think the antifa are racist - they are generally anti-racist as a policy.
 
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When it comes down to mocking the poster instead of addressing the subject of the thread there are some real experts here.

Antifa. Formed as part of RESIST. Anti Trump. anti right conservative, anti Republican in their words and actions

Plain and simple to see.

Maxine Water tells her followers to confront Republicans where they eat, shop, get gas and where they live. Antifa does just that and then some.

Black boot thugs burn the American flag, destroy public property, attempt to stop conservative speeches and assault people coming out of Republican events.

They curse, use weapons and injure people from the right.

That is their history and that is what they are still doing

And not ONE Democratic Congress Person has disavowed themselves not publicaly spoken against them, beyond a passing mention.

And radical far right groups like Proud Boys carry weapons and curse and injure people from the left.
It is their history and they still do it.

They were represented at the alt-right Unite the Right rally, even if one leader disavowed it. That far right rally featured white men shouting 'Blood and Soil! " and "Jews will not replace us!".

Does that represent all the right? Frankly, stunts like that rally simply adds to my view that I will not vote Republican.

I don't like antifa. I don't like Proud Boys. But I REALLY do not like the man inside using curse words and pronouncing hate toward others while unfortunately being the president. I won't vote for any Republican, in particular, who support that man.

I would link to an article about what Trump said in that rally, but it would break the profanity rule as we currently have it.

The actions of antifa or the far right are not enough to influence my vote when it is so firm already just by looking at Donald and how many Republican congressmen are not standing up to him.
 
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That was Obama's policy. Where was the outrage about that?

o_O o_O o_O o_O That's your attitude? How is that reflective of what Jesus teaches? It's misleading on the facts but way more importantly wrong on the morality!!
 
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That was Obama's policy. Where was the outrage about that?
Good question! Where was the moral right’s outrage over that? Were they okay with Obama caging children? How come we never heard about it until Trump started doing the same?
 
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I cannot link the video because of the amount of filthy language they use but you can search

ANTIFA ASSAULTS PEOPLE LEAVING TRUMP RALLY AND HARASSES POLICE

The radical left is vulgar, violent and racist in actions to people who disagree with them. it is one thing to protest a political rally, it is another thing to chase down and verbally and physically assault the attendees.

Is this really a reason why people don’t vote Democrat? What influence does antifa have on policy and so on within the Democrat party? What influence do the far right have on Republican Party politics, for that matter?

btw is is Democratic Party or is it the Democrat party?
 
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But I REALLY do not like the man inside using curse words and pronouncing hate toward others while unfortunately being the president.

How do you feel about the congresswoman who publicly called the President a (word that will get me banned)? Who has been called out repeatedly for anti-semantic hate speech - will you support for those who support her?
 
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How do you feel about the congresswoman who publicly called the President a (word that will get me banned)? Who has been called out repeatedly for anti-semantic hate speech - will you support for those who support her?
I feel that her comments were anti-Israel, not anti-Semitic.
 
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How do you feel about the congresswoman who publicly called the President a (word that will get me banned)? Who has been called out repeatedly for anti-semantic hate speech - will you support for those who support her?

Oh noes! What naughty language. Thank goodness those who support the president would never condone such hurtful speech.
 
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I cannot link the video because of the amount of filthy language they use but you can search

ANTIFA ASSAULTS PEOPLE LEAVING TRUMP RALLY AND HARASSES POLICE

The radical left is vulgar, violent and racist in actions to people who disagree with them. it is one thing to protest a political rally, it is another thing to chase down and verbally and physically assault the attendees.

In the last US national election Democrats got millions more votes than Republicans. This was after Heather Heyer's murder by a Trump fan but I really doubt that was the main cause for why so many ppl voted for Democrats over Republicans.

Tbh it's extremely moronic and childish to me to decide whether to vote for a politician not bc of that politician's policies & competency but bc of the way their base acts. I mean just stop and think through what you posted. You're not helping your cause out at all.

In 2016 millions more ppl did vote for the Democrat candidate for prez than the Republican one. Maybe Trump's disgusting cussing was a part of it but there was way more to it. He lost in the areas that had the higher %s of educated people so I think they were smart enough to make the vote based on him, not his base. Maybe some who voted for Trump really didn't think through it logically at all & did just vote based on wanting to "stick it to the libs."
 
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I feel that her comments were anti-Israel, not anti-Semitic.

Yes. To me it shows an ignorance of what anti-semitism actually means which therefore disrespects the whole meaning of it by conflating the 2.
 
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Was reading Twitter when an 2017 article on Antifa popped up.

These paragraphs were so appropriate, they could have been crafted for this precise discussion.

The right wants people to believe that antifa is a wing of the Democratic Party and that Democrats must answer for its violent actions. This couldn’t be more wrong and the right knows it.

Let’s be clear about who antifa is and isn’t. It’s a decentralized anti-fascist group. Experts make it clear that antifa members are “self-described revolutionaries” who are “anarchists and communists who are way outside the traditional conservative-liberal spectrum.”

Another in depth look at antifa members found them to hold “an ideology that runs afield of the Democratic Party platform and supports oppressed populations as it protests the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites.” This investigative report noted that while antifa activists view themselves as peaceful, leaders admit being “willing to physically attack anyone who employs violence against them or who condones racism -- as long as force is used in the name of eradicating hatred.”

Now, are Democrats also anti-fascist? You bet. Do we also despise white supremacists and Neo-Nazis? You know it. But that’s where the overlap ends.
Oh, and Democrats who have openly condemned and opposed antifa include:

Pelosi
Biden
Sanders
Warren
Yang
Harris
Salwell

And that's just the front page of Google.
 
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How do you feel about the congresswoman who publicly called the President a (word that will get me banned)? Who has been called out repeatedly for anti-semantic hate speech - will you support for those who support her?
She is not my congresswoman and I can't vote for another to replace her.

I do see that she has been wrong at times, and that conservatives who dislike her take things she says in a wrong way and are targeting her in a big way.

In contrast, we have a man criticizing her who has a lifetime of infidelity, not paying subcontractors what is owed, had 6 bankruptcies, is the unnamed co-conspirator in campaign finance case, who engaged in racist behavior in denying Obama's birth in Hawaii, who has called opponents snarky names from the beginning, said racist things about Mexicans and has engaged in atrocious policies like the family separation policy, denial of basic services at the border (soap, toothbrush), whose administration has taken toddlers to court without a parent, betrayed allies (Kurds) and engaged in illegal behavior (asking Ukraine to investigate Bidens) and more. He is foul-mouthed at rallies, and instigates violence. And our economy - we are headed into recession that is hopefully not as bad or worse than the last.

Why would I base my vote on the actions of some antifa people over that?
 
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