Turkey accidentally shells US special forces
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....what happens when a man, with no working knowledge of the region, makes a ""gut" decision without consulting those who could have warned him of the consequences. From what I understand, the decision was a surprise to our military and other countries in the region such as Israel.
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Trump's methods are scary. Obviously, he should consult the military, the intelligence community and allies. Considering that Trump's allies are Turkey and Russia, perhaps that isn't a good idea.
That being said, do we believe that we
1) should we continue supporting Iraq with troops?
2) should we continue supporting the Kabul government with troops?
3) should be side with the Kurds in their war with Turkey?
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1) I think that it is time to evacuate all our troops from Iraq. Yes, that would mean more influence for Iran. Also, ISIS might rise some in the rural areas. However, enough is enough with regard to US intervention.
2) The Talliban controls much of the country, as does Kabul. We have no reason to continue being in the middle. It is time to evacuate. And yes, this amounts to validating the partition of the country that is the reality on the ground.
3) Personally, I think that the Kurds are worth fighting for. They are allies who have fought at our side for decades. However, the voters are not ready to support another war, so we should evacuate here also. And yes, this means that there will be a resurgence of ISIS in Syria. It is not at all clear whether ISIS is worse than Assad in many areas of Syria. In any case, we need to go.
That being said, do we believe that we
1) should we continue supporting Iraq with troops?
2) should we continue supporting the Kabul government with troops?
3) should be side with the Kurds in their war with Turkey?
DISCUSSION
1) I think that it is time to evacuate all our troops from Iraq. Yes, that would mean more influence for Iran. Also, ISIS might rise some in the rural areas. However, enough is enough with regard to US intervention.
2) The Talliban controls much of the country, as does Kabul. We have no reason to continue being in the middle. It is time to evacuate. And yes, this amounts to validating the partition of the country that is the reality on the ground.
3) Personally, I think that the Kurds are worth fighting for. They are allies who have fought at our side for decades. However, the voters are not ready to support another war, so we should evacuate here also. And yes, this means that there will be a resurgence of ISIS in Syria. It is not at all clear whether ISIS is worse than Assad in many areas of Syria. In any case, we need to go.
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They're all secretly warring with each other after Trump called the Egyptian president his favourite dictator.
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I agree our conventional military forces should be withdrawn Iraq and Afghanistan (and Saudi Arabia - where more US troops were sent today...sigh).
In Syria, I understand the US presence is very light - mostly Special Forces there to advise the Kurdish fighters in their fight against ISIS....that is until Trump's decision. I don't see Turkey stopping regardless of the economic threats from D.C. And what happens from here is anyone's guess...the probability of more troops being sent to prevent further escalations in the region just went up considerably, thanks to the President's ill advised decision.
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The way the media explains its, yeah, that's a pretty accurate description. Like most media reports though, I believe they are only pointing out what they want and not the entire story....I will with hold judgement for the moment though I disagree with his decision....there may be more than meets the eye.
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Not sure if you’re serious....but yes it can. ‘Ill advised’ just simply means ‘unwise’...and Trump wrote the book on that...
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Well, I'm not ruling out the possibility that Stephen Miller weighed in.
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Top Kurdish general to US diplomats.. “You are leaving us to be slaughtered”
https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/10/12/politics/syrian-kurds-us-turkey-military-operation/
https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/10/12/politics/syrian-kurds-us-turkey-military-operation/
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