Why did God create useless body parts?

ChristianForCats said:

Sin has nothing to do with a body part becoming useless. It kills people. Body parts simply stop working - if they are not needed anymore.

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Before Adam sinned, there was no death. So when Adam sinned, because he had dominion over creation, all of creation was effected. We can actually scientifically observe the effects of sin... we call it "entropy" (the 2nd law of thermodynamics). It states that everything in the universe (i.e. creation) is cooling down and will one day stop, or die. Thus humans get disease, we decay, and we die... all the effects of sin.

Everything God created was good and had a purpose. If we now have parts we can live without, it is because something changed. And what changed was Adam introduced entropy into creation through his act of sin.

Ken, the "useless" body parts did not die or even cool down. They are just not doing what htey did before - and that has nothing to do with sin.

Jonathan Walkerin said:

All those predators at the garden meant we needed auricular ear muscles ?

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Or to find food, or to hone our environmental senses/awareness, or to communicate, or to perform a function intended by God that we can’t get because of being cast out of the garden, or because people don’t know all of its functionality and God does which is why he designed it for us...

Interesting topic. I think that God deliberately gave us broken body parts to test our inner strength and see how we cope with difficult situations as well.

I will answer in a roundabout way.

In extremis there are those who think they know sufficient to create their very own cell, and in ventners case, he thinks he can create a radical new water born organism to create fuel. When he has turned our oceans into green sludge with an organism that has no break on its replication, that has destroyed our food chain, he will then begin to realise, as those on jurassic park realised, that what they think they know and what they actually know is only the tiny part that God reveals.

So medics will tell you you dont need them: perhaps most will survive without out them. It is a brave man that says they know enough to say they should never have been there at all.

Perhaps it is the most harmonious way to design the genetic codes and the framework in which they are used results in gall bladders and appendices as a "by product" of the parts we need. Perhaps they are there knowing a future of man we have yet to know, in which the need for them becomes apparent. With every discovery , Man proves how little he knows, not how much.

John P. Alexander said:

Disclaimer #1: I didn't know where else to post this to get a Christian perspective.

Disclaimer #2: I know that we can't truly and literally understand why God created these things in us.

I've got to get some gallbladder testing done because it's causing me some discomfort. It may or may not have to be removed. As most people are aware, we can live without it. That got me thinking about other things such as the appendix (which is especially useless and heinous, as it does literally nothing but can take your life) and tonsils. Things that are mostly useless and pointless but can cause severe problems. Why? Why even create them?

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John P. Alexander said:

Disclaimer #1: I didn't know where else to post this to get a Christian perspective.

Disclaimer #2: I know that we can't truly and literally understand why God created these things in us.

I've got to get some gallbladder testing done because it's causing me some discomfort. It may or may not have to be removed. As most people are aware, we can live without it. That got me thinking about other things such as the appendix (which is especially useless and heinous, as it does literally nothing but can take your life) and tonsils. Things that are mostly useless and pointless but can cause severe problems. Why? Why even create them?

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Maybe this got answered, but just in case:

Gallbladder: "Its primary function is to store and concentrate bile, a yellow-brown digestive enzyme produced by the liver. The gallbladder is part of the biliary tract. The gallbladder serves as a reservoir for bile while it's not being used for digestion."

But, yes, you can live without it! Don't panic. You'll be ok.

But what about something more widely thought perhaps useless (the popular notion), the Appendix?

Appendix: "One theory is that the appendix acts as a storehouse for good bacteria, “rebooting” the digestive system after diarrheal illnesses. Other experts believe the appendix is just a useless remnant from our evolutionary past."

So....not so clear it's useless. Having good bacteria restored to the intestine after one of the more severe (and life threatening types) of diarrheal illness could save a person's life very often we could surmise -- such as when a person is very greatly weakened by a serious intestinal illness.

Then...small differences in how soon they can recover could be life or death for them!

It may be that many tens or hundreds of millions lived, survived the aftermath of, serious intestinal infections only because they were able to recover quickly enough after because of the appendix. It's possible. So....I would not assume it is useless. (But, again, if yours is taken out, don't panic. Believe in God and follow Christ, and you'll be fine)


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(note on tangential topic of evolution: God as creator of all that is, also created chemistry, physics, etc., and all that flow from them....)

Halbhh said:

But, yes, you can live without it! Don't panic. You'll be ok.

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Note that diet changes are required to try to keep the rest of the body healthy.... many people have had troubling complications because no one told them, not even their doctor(s), what was necessary, and what to avoid, and what to be aware of.... for life.

Ken Rank said:

If we now have parts we can live without, it is because something changed.

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Okay,
as someone pointed out we can live (or many people do) without a left arm.

What changed to make that possible ?

Another tangent: man's knowledge is restricted. Otherwise it would not be true when God Says "FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, MY PEOPLE PERISH (get sick, die, physically and/or spiritually) " ....

Not everyone has that lack of knowledge. But society/ professionals/ governments/ religious leaders do not want everyone to know the truth, do they ? Thus, cover-ups.

Finding out what the gall bladder can do and can be responsible for can take years... and is DELIGHTFUL in knowing, while frustrating in the obstacles to knowing.

Jonathan Walkerin said:

Indeed it can not so your logic is flawed.

Science explains why we have the auricular muscles of the ear and the wisdom teeth

Auricular muscles control the visible part of the ear, but humans have lost the ability to use them. Other mammals use these muscles to detect prey and predators.

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Humans no longer need very powerful jaws because our diets have shifted toward soft foods and cooked grains. Our jaws are also smaller, so we can't all fit in our wisdom teeth properly.

So that is science. Logic and evidence.

What is your explanation why God would have created these now useless features ?

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The loss of ability is no sign of succesful evolution, nor is it a sign of poor design.

The loss of auricular muscle use is not universal, and people can in fact learn to move their ears.

The difficulty with wisdom teeth fitting into the jaw of modern men is not universal either. I never had a problem, and the only reason I had 2 of them removed was because of decay.

A couple of possibilities (both more plausible than the current dominant fairy tale):

• Given that (as God reveals in Genesis) other animals where created before Man was created, then it is possible that elements of design that were used in other creatures were also used in the creation of mankind. We also see this sort of evidence where other animals of different, unrelated kinds, posess similar advancements. We also observe this same tendency in areas of design and development that we ourselves commonly engage in.

• But also, the loss of ability to do some things is a part of the creation narrative and comes as a result of the fall. The world originally created was quite a bit different from the post Deluge one that we inhabit, and mankind itself is a different creature also. Who knows what advantages we may have had when we could all wiggle our ears?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Okay,
as someone pointed out we can live (or many people do) without a left arm.

What changed to make that possible ?

Another tangent: man's knowledge is restricted. Otherwise it would not be true when God Says "FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE, MY PEOPLE PERISH (get sick, die, physically and/or spiritually) " ....

Not everyone has that lack of knowledge. But society/ professionals/ governments/ religious leaders do not want everyone to know the truth, do they ? Thus, cover-ups.

Finding out what the gall bladder can do and can be responsible for can take years... and is DELIGHTFUL in knowing, while frustrating in the obstacles to knowing.

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I am not saying we can't live without things, clearly we can. What I am saying is that "I BELIEVE" that we used all our parts properly when created and that, over time, and due to the wages of sin (decay, disease, death), that there are now things we can remove through human intervention and continue on.

The Hosea verse you quote... I always quote it in full so the full meaning isn't missed by a religious culture that looks down on God's law.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you from being priest for Me; Because you have forgotten the law of your God, I also will forget your children."

Blessings bro.

There are numerous other organs that can only be classified as unnecessary or, perhaps, obsolete.
Tailbone for instance.
I believe in theistic evolution so I am quite comfortable in saying that these organs are a holdover from the "humans" that existed prior to Adam and Eve, and that eventually mated with the descendants of Adam and Eve. Either that, or they are remnants of mutations forced upon men and beasts in the pre-flood days of Noah by the fallen angels and nephalim (sp?).

ChristianGirl_96 said:

Interesting topic. I think that God deliberately gave us broken body parts to test our inner strength and see how we cope with difficult situations as well.

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I think people with broken bodyparts invent these explanations so the world would not feel so unfair.

Or you can just go to classics I guess

“It is my bad luck that this has happened to me.' No, you should rather say: 'It is my good luck that, although this has happened to me, I can bear it without pain, neither crushed by the present not fearful of the future.' Because such a thing could have happened to any man, but not every man could have borne it without pain. So why see more misfortune in the event than good fortune in your ability to bear it?”

― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

Anguspure said:

I have a friend who looks like that. Had a rope block explode into his head. Destroyed half of his brain. 3 months in a coma, 10 years in Hospital and 18 years later we could take him sailing again.
Awesome body that God has created for us, and He also works miracles.
Here's another one:
Meet The Man Who Lives Normally With Damage to 90% of His Brain

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Gosh, I'm surprise your friend survived that let alone be able to go sailing. Yes, God did give us awesome bodies. I hope your friend has some quality of life and is happy?

Paulus59 said:

Gosh, I'm surprise your friend survived that let alone be able to go sailing. Yes, God did give us awesome bodies. I hope your friend has some quality of life and is happy?

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He is a good man and you wouldn't know any difference until he takes his hat off. Like the photos above it is visually disturbing.
God is good.

SavedByGrace3 said:

There are numerous other organs that can only be classified as unnecessary or, perhaps, obsolete.
Tailbone for instance.
I believe in theistic evolution so I am quite comfortable in saying that these organs are a holdover from the "humans" that existed prior to Adam and Eve, and that eventually mated with the descendants of Adam and Eve. Either that, or they are remnants of mutations forced upon men and beasts in the pre-flood days of Noah by the fallen angels and nephalim (sp?).

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The tailbone allows you to sit on a flat surface comfortably.
It gives you sitting stability.

NothingIsImpossible said:

Why do men have nipples? We know why women have them. But given they came from us, then that means we already had nipples first. What was the point?
Silly I know but I've always wondered.

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We are developed more female before we change to men.

John P. Alexander said:

Things that are mostly useless and pointless but can cause severe problems. Why? Why even create them?

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Our lack of understanding is not a big mystery.

SkyWriting said:

The tailbone allows you to sit on a flat surface comfortably.
It gives you sitting stability.

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Although a somewhat ignoble purpose to mention, the tailbone is also used for defecation, so not useless.

John P. Alexander said:

Disclaimer #1: I didn't know where else to post this to get a Christian perspective.

Disclaimer #2: I know that we can't truly and literally understand why God created these things in us.

I've got to get some gallbladder testing done because it's causing me some discomfort. It may or may not have to be removed. As most people are aware, we can live without it. That got me thinking about other things such as the appendix (which is especially useless and heinous, as it does literally nothing but can take your life) and tonsils. Things that are mostly useless and pointless but can cause severe problems. Why? Why even create them?

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Apparently the appendix is very important for preserving gut bacteria when your body would otherwise flush everything out through diarrhea when responding to a nasty bug in the digestive system.

John P. Alexander said:

Disclaimer #1: I didn't know where else to post this to get a Christian perspective.

Disclaimer #2: I know that we can't truly and literally understand why God created these things in us.

I've got to get some gallbladder testing done because it's causing me some discomfort. It may or may not have to be removed. As most people are aware, we can live without it. That got me thinking about other things such as the appendix (which is especially useless and heinous, as it does literally nothing but can take your life) and tonsils. Things that are mostly useless and pointless but can cause severe problems. Why? Why even create them?

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Useless isn't the right word. Some of our anatomy isn't critically necessary to our survival, and then there are parts of our anatomy which are vestigial--vestigial doesn't mean useless either. The tailbone is vestigial, because our ancestors had tails; but the tailbone still serves a function for us.

-CryptoLutheran