would you have followed this man

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He was the head of the government
He decided to have an affair
He got the woman pregnant
He used his office to cover up his crime
Part of that crime was killing his best friend the husband of the woman he had the affair with
He did not repent and kept the woman for life.
The fruit of that illicit affair plagued him until he Absalom hanging on a tree.

Would you have followed this man? He was king David. How many of us who armed with our knowledge of the Law would have rejected David the man after God's own heart. How many of us if he was running for president would have ruled the one God was going to use for His purposes. David was very interesting. When Absalom, the son he had through his affair, was trying to kill him his soldier came and said they knew where Absalom was and should they go kill him. David said no and the reason is even more remarkable, Doing so might have interfered with God's will for David. I ask about this because I find it fascinating to see how the man after God's own heart did things and how we are so quick to know God's will and condemn others. Have we turned discernment into judgment? How do you tell the difference?
 

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He was the head of the government
He decided to have an affair
He got the woman pregnant
He used his office to cover up his crime
Part of that crime was killing his best friend the husband of the woman he had the affair with
He did not repent and kept the woman for life.
The fruit of that illicit affair plagued him until he Absalom hanging on a tree.

Would you have followed this man? He was king David. How many of us who armed with our knowledge of the Law would have rejected David the man after God's own heart.

If the acts you describe are "after God's own heart" then I would reject both David and his God.
 
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(snip) How do you tell the difference?
...one was in the Bible and the other is the President today. Ones dead and ones still causing misery and lying pretty much every day. So...I don't really have any problem telling them apart. :wave:
tulc(is glad to clear that up) :)
 
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Have we turned discernment into judgment? How do you tell the difference?
"we"? The natural man has no spiritual discernment (except/unless the Judge in heaven grants it to him).

Anyway then, most readers/ of the world/ either cannot tell the difference on their own, or they don't care, it seems.

"Judge"/"Judgment" in English Bibles means at least three different things in the original.

Few even realize this.
 
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He did repent after he was confronted and I would have followed him

If I may, ask something else. I can repent of something like committing adultery and murder and keep the one I sinned with? David the man after God's own heart was not allowed to build the temple.
One last question. Were you around when Bill Clinton did far less than David and how did you continue to follow him? If you did not react the same way most Christians from that time reacted I commend you.
 
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If the acts you describe are "after God's own heart" then I would reject both David and his God.

No not those acts, the Bible shows both sides of David. It shows his faith and the thoughts and deeds which were after God's own heart, but it also shows how he messed up. The scripture around David emphasises how God sees the heart but people can only see the outside. It can also give people hope who are feeling like they are failing, you can fail but still succeed. It speaks about not being a quitter with God or with yourself.
 
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I never voted for President Clinton, not in the primaries not in the elections, I don't vote for people who cheat on their spouses. Can you say the same thing? :scratch:
tulc(is just curious) :wave:

I wonder, did you vote in 1992? The Juanita Broaddrick accusation did not become public until 1994. Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones became public in 1999 and Leslie Millwee waited until 2016.
 
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I never voted for President Clinton, not in the primaries not in the elections, I don't vote for people who cheat on their spouses. Can you say the same thing? :scratch:
tulc(is just curious) :wave:
Did you vote for trump he cheated on every wife he has had. I didn’t vote for him. Yea I don’t vote at all da. 4 :17, God does just fine using all the rest of you do you vote for people who rob, who do all sorts of unchristian things and brag about how wise you are?
 
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No not those acts, the Bible shows both sides of David. It shows his faith and the thoughts and deeds which were after God's own heart, but it also shows how he messed up. The scripture around David emphasises how God sees the heart but people can only see the outside. It can also give people hope who are feeling like they are failing, you can fail but still succeed. It speaks about not being a quitter with God or with yourself.

Nice, but not relevant to the question asked in the OP, you have a problem with the OP interpretation, take it up with them.
 
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Did you vote for trump he cheated on every wife he has had.
Short answer: No. Longer answer: I very much did not vote for him. :)
I didn’t vote for him. Yea I don’t vote at all
Okay...:sorry:

da. 4 :17, God does just fine using all the rest of you do you vote for people who rob, who do all sorts of unchristian things
Not if I can help it I don't. The whole "Don't vote for people who cheat on their spouses" is simply a personal choice I make. :wave:

and brag about how wise you are?
Are you asking me if I brag about how wise I am? :scratch:
tulc(likes to understand before he answers a question) :)
 
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I wonder, did you vote in 1992? The Juanita Broaddrick accusation did not become public until 1994. Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones became public in 1999 and Leslie Millwee waited until 2016.
I still don’t vote who do you share in their sin with but he is the right party. Daniel tells us the Lord raises up the worst of men did your vote go against God’s will? David when asked if he wanted his soldiers to kill Absalom DAVID said no that it might be against God’s will. This when Absalom was trying to thwart God’s will for David to be on the throne. All you folks who are so black and white and sure your on God’s side. especially if they don’t measure up to what you determine they are Holy or evil. At the point you judge others you have judged yourself.
 
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Short answer: No. Longer answer: I very much did not vote for him. :)

Okay...:sorry:


Not if I can help it I don't. The whole "Don't vote for people who cheat on their spouses" is simply a personal choice I make. :wave:


Are you asking me if I brag about how wise I am? :scratch:
tulc(likes to understand before he answers a question) :)
I think you and I don’t need to continue this sorry
 
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I wonder, did you vote in 1992? The Juanita Broaddrick accusation did not become public until 1994. Kathleen Willey and Paula Jones became public in 1999 and Leslie Millwee waited until 2016.
Nah, I had heard things about him for a while long before it was clear what sort of man he was, so I didn't vote for him even back then. :wave:
tulc(just one of those "something off about that guy" checks he gets) :sorry:
 
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Then it's a good thing I've never cheated on my wife of 43+ years. :wave:
tulc(wonders if "the kitchen sink" is the right place for this thread?) :scratch:
Don’t know. Love your icons. I have been married about same length of time I have never committed literal adultery. According to the Beatitudes I no that is untrue and something that happens much much less then when younger. But something I still have waging war against my spirit. But He promises that He won’t leave me like this that along with His other promises makes the Good News of Jesus Christ the Great News.
 
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Nice, but not relevant to the question asked in the OP, you have a problem with the OP interpretation, take it up with them.
No, I was just clearing up that the OP was pointing out David's failings not what he did that was after God's own heart.

Best. User. Name. EVER!! :clap:
tulc(is sorry, he just had to comment on it) :sorry:
Thanks, tulc:D
 
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