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? If you want to define it as gnostic or dualism, but why ?I am not sure that is not Gnostic, or at least dualism.
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? If you want to define it as gnostic or dualism, but why ?I am not sure that is not Gnostic, or at least dualism.
That's why perversion means death for all those who accept it and live perverted lives.The Law, brings death to all.
To return to the comment you made in post 315? If you want to define it as gnostic or dualism, but why ?
To return to the comment you made in post 315
People are usually all bad, and stay all bad. Just by being born.
They usually have no insights at all, and especially no valuable insights.
"Whatever is born of the flesh..... profits NOTHING."
This nuanced view suggests that everything/one is black or white simply lacks a correlation to the reality that most of us experience most of the time.
Go by what Yahuweh Sovereign Creator Says Clearly in His Word.
Not by any so-called "reality" (experience, feelings, emotions) that most people experience most of the time (which is no standard, has no authority, and stays on and leads to the wide road of destruction) . Remember, the world is doomed, and the flesh is at war with the spirit; the flesh is not helpful, according to all Scripture.
Good!God so loved the world that he gave his only Son,
so that everyone who believes in him may not perish
but may have eternal life
God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world,
but in order that the world might be saved through him
Deut 23:2 was true at the time God said it but that is punishing the son for the father's sin. God abrogated that commandment later in Ezek.Some people might complain about the word Bastard being used but I just want to say this is Gods language so it can never be unclean so please respect that. The problem is Christians have been influenced by the heathens of this world and been persuaded to abandon Gods clean sacred language. Here are some verses:
Deuteronomy 23 2
''A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.''
hebrews 12:7-8
''If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.''
So God clearly wants children to enter into the world in a certain manner. Just wandering if people here think having a Bastard child is acceptable or marriage before the child's birth is essential? The world keeps pushing for more and more of Gods will to be eliminated,please bear in mind this ultimately is an issue of how adults and potential parents conduct themselves,not an attack on children so curious how the forum felt on this issue. Thanks.
That's why perversion means death for all those who accept it and live perverted lives.
Muslims believe that the Quran is no longer the word of Allah if it is not in Arabic. That's not even remotely the argument being made here in regards to the Bible.This is the same argument Muslims use about critics of the koran: Unless the book is spoken in the original (Arabic) language,it doesn't count.
Well my God is not Allah and he promised to preserve his word for me and all people:
Psalm 12:6-7
6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.
My KJV is that preservation and in it the translators use Bastard so I say the same:
''A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord.''
If you want to use heathen dialogue that's fine but don't try to criminalize the lords clean language.
Muslims believe that the Quran is no longer the word of Allah if it is not in Arabic. That's not even remotely the argument being made here in regards to the Bible.
What is being said is the cultural connotations of the word may not be the same. This could happen in literally any translation of anything at all. It's not that the Bible no longer God's Word when in English, but we should be careful about insisting a particular translation is an accurate translation of the original word.
I feel like this has been stated ad nauseam by now, but the original word in Hebrew is mamzer. Mamzer is much broader than bastard, because it is not restricted to children born out of wedlock. It encompasses children born to one Jewish parent and one pagan parent (even if the two are legally married), as well as anyone with illegitimacy, incest, etc. within their heritage. Bastard is a poor translation of the word because it does not encompass the full meaning of mamzer.
The Bible is God's Word, whatever the translation being read, but insisting that a particular English word or phrase is "God's language" even when the word doesn't totally encompass the definition of the original word or phrase is making an idol out of said translation.
Deut 23:2 was true at the time God said it but that is punishing the son for the father's sin. God abrogated that commandment later in Ezek.
Ezekiel 18:1-5
(1) The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,
(2) What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
(3) As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.
(4) Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
(5) But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,
Ezekiel 18:19-20
(19) Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.
(20) The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
You sure think about sex a lot.
I plan to get married before I have children. That's assuming God calls me to marriage and motherhood in the first place, however.Do you plan on having Bastard children or do you plan on being wed first?
The sin which resulted in an illegitimate child in no lesser nor greater than any of the listed sins. Children who suffered for their fathers sins had not sinned neither had any illegitimate child. But God permits illegitimate children to suffer for the sins of their fathers? I don't think so.This is talking about actual crimes and violations of the law,not the legitimacy of marriage and bastard children.
So God will not punish anyone for the sins of their parents except for the sin of sexual immorality?''So God clearly wants children to enter into the world in a certain manner. Just wandering if people here think having a Bastard child is acceptable or marriage before the child's birth is essential? The world keeps pushing for more and more of Gods will to be eliminated,please bear in mind this ultimately is an issue of how adults and potential parents conduct themselves,not an attack on children so curious how the forum felt on this issue. Thanks.''
Gossip.
Obviously, marriage is not essential, since God could have made it essential, but He didn't.... having a Bastard child is acceptable or marriage before the child's birth is essential?