Future New World Order One World Government...in the Bible?

BABerean2 said:

Jerry,

The author of the Book of Hebrews quoted Jeremiah 31:31-34 word-for-word within Hebrews 8:6-13, and started the passage with the word "now".
You must ignore Hebrews 8:6 to make your viewpoint work, because an understanding of the New Covenant kills Dispensational Theology.

We find the same thing in Hebrews 10:16-18, where a key part of Jeremiah 31:31-34 is quoted, and we find the word "now".

The master teacher promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 was revealed by Christ in John 14:26, as the Holy Spirit.
The fulfillment of the master teacher is found below for all of those in the New Covenant.

1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Once again we see the scripture which you must ignore to make the Two Peoples of God doctrine work. Like other man-made doctrines, this makes it a doctrine of ignorance.

When a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.

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1. Hebrews 10 the Jeremiah prophecy was in the time factor of till Christ enemies were at his footstool or beneath his feet which goes in line with 1 Corinthians 15:24-25.
That could be the reason you didn’t mention it this time.
This is why the Jeremiah passage in Hebrews 8 will be shown as the same because they cannot contradict each other.

2. Hebrews 8:6 goes with vs 1-5; 7-9 as a contrast of the Old and Covenant and why the Old had to be replaced.
V 8 finding fault with the OC the days come that Christ would make a NC with the House of Israel and the House of Judah. Refer to Ezekiel 37:16-28.
This covenant wouldn’t be the same as in Egypt as in Moses day who ending up not staying in the covenant.

3. V 10 starts the real time factor for Israel to receive the NC with the wording according to content and context.
For this is the covenant (new) that I will make with the house of Israel, which incidentally will be what they are called because of being one stick in Ezekiel 37:16-28.
Israel is still backslidden today and the legality of the church of Jew and Gentiles as the church was when Christ died Ephesians 2:14-15.
This is why that the Lord hasn’t written his law into their hearts and minds yet as a nation.
This is also why you have to build up a straw man of the spiritual Israel doctrine Romans 2:28- 29.
The Jewish nation doesn’t have God and they have not become his people since they are not in rightstanding with God. Most Jews are atheists.
I already debunked your and so in Romans 11:26 which you use as a syndenoche and that is probably why you didn’t mention it again.

4. V11; and they shall teach every man his and every man his brother, saying Know the Lord for all shall know me from the least to the greatest.
This has never happened with Israel or even the church for that matters.

5. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness and their sins and their iniquities I will remember no more.
This is not happened to Israel’s for they are still backslidden.
The true church is not backslidden.
You can’t rebut the scriptures on Israel’s kingdom covenant promises on all the scriptures or even your scriptures here. You have to spiritualized scripture to prove your position which is not correct biblical exegesis. Jerry Kelso

jerry kelso said:

4. V11; and they shall teach every man his and every man his brother, saying Know the Lord for all shall know me from the least to the greatest.
This has never happened with Israel or even the church for that matters.

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Jerry,

If you do not have the teacher found below, I will be praying for you to receive it, as all of us already in the New Covenant have already received.


Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


The process of receiving it is found below.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

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BABerean2 said:

Jerry,

If you do not have the teacher found below, I will be praying for you to receive it, as all of us already in the New Covenant have already received.


Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.


1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.


The process of receiving it is found below.

Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

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baberean2,

1. You are not fair in proper exegesis or proper debate and rebuttal and twice you haven’t answered what you even mean by not knowing the teacher remarks.
You keep posting the same thing thinking it is going to stick.
I have already debunked your position of the replacement theology and you won’t even touch about the Davidic covenant and Israel’s relation to it.
I have shown that the scripture doesn’t teach the spiritual Jew doctrine that you use to promote your replacement theology.
The scripture debunks your time factor concerning the House of Israel and the House of Judah.
You have to spiritualize and change meanings and on and on to make your position work.
Obviously, you have to post the same thing because you can’t really answer to anything which means you ignore what I post.
Why do you insist on being unfair? I believe I deserve to know. Jerry Kelso

jerry kelso said:

Why do you insist on being unfair? I believe I deserve to know. Jerry Kelso

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Former Dispensationalist Jerry Johnson:


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BABerean2 said:

Former Dispensationalist Jerry Johnson:

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Baberean2,

1. It’s amazing to me you can’t defend your position according to all the scriptures on the subject.
Then you have to send a video of someone who was a former dispensationalist.
There are people that believed your position and changed to dispensationalism.
I have books on people who were dispensationalists from Dallas Theological Seminary and switched to your position and they have better arguments than the people you send in your videos.
The thing is I rebutted your position and you can’t answer to it.
This is unfair because I always have to answer to your objections and you can avoid my questions.
And you even had the gaw to give the perception that I am not saved and wouldn’t explain why you made that statement or what you really meant about it.
It is not right and I don’t see how you can be seen as credible. It just makes you look like you are trying to push your position instead of being apologetic to the word wanting the real truth.
Jerry Kelso

LittleLambofJesus said:

Hello Jerry.
You noticed that also?

Despite me showing him concrete evidence from the Greek and numerous Greek commentators, he still refuses to change his view of the Reve 11:1 and the measuring of the Sanctuary.........

What about Revelation 11:1-2 SANCTUARY, COURT AND HOLY CITY

LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
I would like to take a look at some of the key words used in Reve 11:1, 2 in relation to the OT and Revelation and perhaps bring more clarification to that divine Covenantle Book

Revelation 11:
1 And was given to me a reed like-as rod saying "rouse! and measure! the Sanctuary<3485> of God and the Altar[Golden Altar] and those worshiping in it

BABerean2 said: ↑
The location of the temple at the beginning of Revelation chapter 11 is found later in the passage.
Rev 11:1 Rise, and measure the temple of God, ..........
Rev 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven,

LittleLambofJesus said: ↑
Once again, the Greek word for "Temple" is not in Revelation.......

BABerean2 said: ↑
Revelation 11:1
(CJB) I was given a measuring rod like a stick and told, "Get up, and measure the Temple of God and the altar, and count how many people are worshipping there!
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littlelambofJesus,

1. The Greek linear has vaov as shrine.
Shrines were called temples in past history.
If I remember correctly, sanctuary has been called a temple or referred to it .
I do know that temple of God in 2 Thessalonians where the Antichrist will stand up in and proclaim he is God.

2. The Jews have been making preparations to be able to build the temple which is said to take 3.5 years to build.
They are also looking for the right red heifer etc. for being able to do the sacrifices properly.

3. I am not sure of your reasoning for sanctuary. It has to be a place where they can start the daily sacrifice which was the Holy of Holies where only the High Priest could enter.
I need more information.

4. The temple of God in Heaven at the end of the chapter is not the same temple as in the first of the chapter.
The first is on earth and the second is in Heaven. Jerry Kelso

jerry kelso said:

Baberean2,

1. It’s amazing to me you can’t defend your position according to all the scriptures on the subject.
Then you have to send a video of someone who was a former dispensationalist.
There are people that believed your position and changed to dispensationalism.
I have books on people who were dispensationalists from Dallas Theological Seminary and switched to your position and they have better arguments than the people you send in your videos.
The thing is I rebutted your position and you can’t answer to it.
This is unfair because I always have to answer to your objections and you can avoid my questions.
And you even had the gaw to give the perception that I am not saved and wouldn’t explain why you made that statement or what you really meant about it.
It is not right and I don’t see how you can be seen as credible. It just makes you look like you are trying to push your position instead of being apologetic to the word wanting the real truth.
Jerry Kelso

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Dispensationalists have a habit of claiming there is something wrong with those who dare to oppose their man-made doctrine.

At one time Benjamin Newton and John Darby worked together in the Plymouth Brethren movement. Later Darby divided scripture into that for Israel, and that for the Church. When Newton would not accept Darby's new doctrine, Darby made a personal attack on Newton which split the group.

How many times have we seen this happen on this forum?

Some things never change.

The history of your doctrine is found below.

PROPHETIC DEVELOPMENTS
with particular reference to the early Brethren Movement.
F. Roy Coad (Brethren Historian) pages 10-26
http://brethrenhistory.org/qwicsitePro/php/docsview.php?docid=418

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BABerean2 said:

Dispensationalists have a habit of claiming there is something wrong with those who dare to oppose their man-made doctrine.

At one time Benjamin Newton and John Darby worked together in the Plymouth Brethren movement. Later Darby divided scripture into that for Israel, and that for the Church. When Newton would not accept Darby's new doctrine, Darby made a personal attack on Newton which split the group.

How many times have we seen this happen on this forum?

Some things never change.

The history of your doctrine is found below.

PROPHETIC DEVELOPMENTS
with particular reference to the early Brethren Movement.
F. Roy Coad (Brethren Historian) pages 10-26
http://brethrenhistory.org/qwicsitePro/php/docsview.php?docid=418

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baberean2,

1. All you are doing is being one sided because you have no answer.
You have skated the issue by false positions of history or their understanding.
If you are not willing to give a straight answer and logic to the scriptures that can rebut the ones I gave or at least give a halfway logical answer you ought not to post.
The problem is you have no answer.
Jerry Kelso

jerry kelso said:

baberean2,

1. All you are doing is being one sided because you have no answer.
You have skated the issue by false positions of history or their understanding.
If you are not willing to give a straight answer and logic to the scriptures that can rebut the ones I gave or at least give a halfway logical answer you ought not to post.
The problem is you have no answer.
Jerry Kelso

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Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.


Great Errors in Dispensational Eschatology: Pastor John Otis

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BABerean2 said:

Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, modern Dispensational Theology falls apart, and the pretrib removal of the Church falls with it.


Great Errors in Dispensational Eschatology: Pastor John Otis

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baberean2,

1. Once a person understands that Israel has an unconditional covenant of the Davidic Covenant 2 Samuel 7:13-16; 1 Chronicles 28:1-7 that is conditioned on all Israel being saved Romans 11:26;29.
This lets one know that the spiritual Jew theory Romans 2:28-29 is not a doctrine that has the church replacing Israel and their specific covenant concerning the throne of David is not true.
When people realize that the time factor for Jeremiah 31-34 is when the nation of Israel’s forgiven forever so they can be a people to God and God to them and Hebrews 8:6-13 the same and Hebrews 10:12-18 the Jeremiah passage not happening till God’s enemies are under his feet as his footstool which 1 Corinthians 15:24-25 agrees with and that Hebrews is talking about the present church in Christ he present church age then you will realize this Berean doctrine is in error. This is based on words and correct context harmonization of the word vs. not talking all things in consideration of the whole subject and making up new doctrines and making accusations against other theology as leading men down the primrose path and some even though he’ll.
One sided is not fair exegesis or proper debate and rebuttal. Jerry Kelso

jerry kelso said:

Once a person understands that Israel has an unconditional covenant of the Davidic Covenant 2 Samuel 7:13-16; 1 Chronicles 28:1-7 that is conditioned on all Israel being saved Romans 11:26;29.
This lets one know that the spiritual Jew theory Romans 2:28-29 is not a doctrine that has the church replacing Israel and their specific covenant concerning the throne of David is not true.

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Once a person understands the amount of scripture you have twisted above to make your doctrine work, they will see the Two Peoples of God doctrine for what it really is.

You conveniently ignored the word "so" in Romans 11:26, which is the manner of salvation, instead of the timing of salvation. See Romans 11:23-24 for the manner of salvation.

I have heard Dispensationalists like John Hagee, and John MacArthur say...

"And then all Israel will be saved."

They have corrupted the text to make their doctrine work.

If you want to reject what Paul said in Romans 2:28-29, and what Paul said in Galatians 3:16-29, that is between you and God.

If you are saying some people have a different covenant with God, based on who their parents would be, you are promoting some form of Dual Covenant Theology.

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BABerean2 said:

Once a person understands the amount of scripture you have twisted above to make your doctrine work, they will see the Two Peoples of God doctrine for what it really is.

You conveniently ignored the word "so" in Romans 11:26, which is the manner of salvation, instead of the timing of salvation. See Romans 11:23-24 for the manner of salvation.

I have heard Dispensationalists like John Hagee, and John MacArthur say...

"And then all Israel will be saved."

They have corrupted the text to make their doctrine work.

If you want to reject what Paul said in Romans 2:28-29, and what Paul said in Galatians 3:16-29, that is between you and God.

If you are saying some people have a different covenant with God, based on who their parents would be, you are promoting some form of Dual Covenant Theology.

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baberean2,

1. You know good and well I have debunked your doctrine already.
You want to address your points and not other peoples. That is very unfair.
You even had the gaw to imply I wasn’t saved and you wouldn’t explain yourself.

2. It is you and people like you that have twisted what dispensationalism says and believes.
The two people’s of God doctrine you say we believe is a farce.
The church of today is Jew and Gentile alike physically.
Spiritually, there is no Jew, Gentile, male, female etc. we are all on the same level spiritually.
In the millennial kingdom both Jewish and Gentile Christians will be one spiritually under the same new covenant of Jesus blood that saves.
The difference will be the physical rule of Israel will be at the head of the nations and the church age saints will rule in other parts of rulership in the country.
This doesn’t make Israel any better than the church or vice versa.
Christ will be the head vicar over the earth on the throne of David and David will rulfrom his throne over Israel and the 12 apostles will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel.
The church age saints will also have rulership training in other parts of the universal kingdom as well that Israel won’t have.

3. The plan b accusation is ridiculous.
The church was ordained since the foundation of the world.
Israel’s promises are unconditional in that it will happen but not til they are all saved and the Lord comes back to save them.
Matthew plainly states that the KoG (spiritual) would be taken from them and given to another who would bear fruit etc. , which were the Gentiles.
Israel rejected Christ and even Paul said in Romans that it was because of Israel’s sin that the church would be the one’s to make them jealous for God.
It was never prophesied that Israel would except the Messiah before the cross.
God ordained the church to become a new man.
So there was no plan b.

4. And so you are falsifying the wording and beside the context is about all Israel being saved so they can fulfill their gifts and callings which are the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants.
When the fullness of the gentiles are come in then all Israel will be saved is true.
Hagee and McArthur didn’t corrupt the context and you have done worse because you ignore the context.

5. Romans 2:28 Paul does mention a spiritual Jew is one who believes in Christ.
Dispensationalists agree with that.
The disagreement is that it wasn’t the context of who he was directly talking to. He was speaking to the Jews as a rebuke.
He was not making a new doctrine that the church has replaced Israel according to their specific covenants concerning the land and position in the physical reign. You all are making that upon on your own on a couple of scriptures that have no context of such.

6. The covenants are based on who God says is going to do what and where. Jerry Kelso

jerry kelso said:

baberean2,

1. You know good and well I have debunked your doctrine already.
You want to address your points and not other peoples. That is very unfair.
You even had the gaw to imply I wasn’t saved and you wouldn’t explain yourself.

2. It is you and people like you that have twisted what dispensationalism says and believes.
The two people’s of God doctrine you say we believe is a farce.
The church of today is Jew and Gentile alike physically.
Spiritually, there is no Jew, Gentile, male, female etc. we are all on the same level spiritually.
In the millennial kingdom both Jewish and Gentile Christians will be one spiritually under the same new covenant of Jesus blood that saves.
The difference will be the physical rule of Israel will be at the head of the nations and the church age saints will rule in other parts of rulership in the country.
This doesn’t make Israel any better than the church or vice versa.
Christ will be the head vicar over the earth on the throne of David and David will rulfrom his throne over Israel and the 12 apostles will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel.
The church age saints will also have rulership training in other parts of the universal kingdom as well that Israel won’t have.

3. The plan b accusation is ridiculous.
The church was ordained since the foundation of the world.
Israel’s promises are unconditional in that it will happen but not til they are all saved and the Lord comes back to save them.
Matthew plainly states that the KoG (spiritual) would be taken from them and given to another who would bear fruit etc. , which were the Gentiles.
Israel rejected Christ and even Paul said in Romans that it was because of Israel’s sin that the church would be the one’s to make them jealous for God.
It was never prophesied that Israel would except the Messiah before the cross.
God ordained the church to become a new man.
So there was no plan b.

4. And so you are falsifying the wording and beside the context is about all Israel being saved so they can fulfill their gifts and callings which are the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants.
When the fullness of the gentiles are come in then all Israel will be saved is true.
Hagee and McArthur didn’t corrupt the context and you have done worse because you ignore the context.

5. Romans 2:28 Paul does mention a spiritual Jew is one who believes in Christ.
Dispensationalists agree with that.
The disagreement is that it wasn’t the context of who he was directly talking to. He was speaking to the Jews as a rebuke.
He was not making a new doctrine that the church has replaced Israel according to their specific covenants concerning the land and position in the physical reign. You all are making that upon on your own on a couple of scriptures that have no context of such.

6. The covenants are based on who God says is going to do what and where. Jerry Kelso

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Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Heb 11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
Heb 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

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jerry kelso said:

baberean2,

1. You know good and well I have debunked your doctrine already.
You want to address your points and not other peoples. That is very unfair.
You even had the gaw to imply I wasn’t saved and you wouldn’t explain yourself.

2. It is you and people like you that have twisted what dispensationalism says and believes.
The two people’s of God doctrine you say we believe is a farce.
The church of today is Jew and Gentile alike physically.
Spiritually, there is no Jew, Gentile, male, female etc. we are all on the same level spiritually.
In the millennial kingdom both Jewish and Gentile Christians will be one spiritually under the same new covenant of Jesus blood that saves.
The difference will be the physical rule of Israel will be at the head of the nations and the church age saints will rule in other parts of rulership in the country.
This doesn’t make Israel any better than the church or vice versa.
Christ will be the head vicar over the earth on the throne of David and David will rulfrom his throne over Israel and the 12 apostles will rule over the 12 tribes of Israel.
The church age saints will also have rulership training in other parts of the universal kingdom as well that Israel won’t have.

3. The plan b accusation is ridiculous.
The church was ordained since the foundation of the world.
Israel’s promises are unconditional in that it will happen but not til they are all saved and the Lord comes back to save them.
Matthew plainly states that the KoG (spiritual) would be taken from them and given to another who would bear fruit etc. , which were the Gentiles.
Israel rejected Christ and even Paul said in Romans that it was because of Israel’s sin that the church would be the one’s to make them jealous for God.
It was never prophesied that Israel would except the Messiah before the cross.
God ordained the church to become a new man.
So there was no plan b.

4. And so you are falsifying the wording and beside the context is about all Israel being saved so they can fulfill their gifts and callings which are the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants.
When the fullness of the gentiles are come in then all Israel will be saved is true.
Hagee and McArthur didn’t corrupt the context and you have done worse because you ignore the context.

5. Romans 2:28 Paul does mention a spiritual Jew is one who believes in Christ.
Dispensationalists agree with that.
The disagreement is that it wasn’t the context of who he was directly talking to. He was speaking to the Jews as a rebuke.
He was not making a new doctrine that the church has replaced Israel according to their specific covenants concerning the land and position in the physical reign. You all are making that upon on your own on a couple of scriptures that have no context of such.

6. The covenants are based on who God says is going to do what and where. Jerry Kelso

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That was a good post, Jerry.

BABerean2 said:

Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
Heb 11:14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
Heb 11:15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
Heb 11:16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

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baberean2,

1. You really think because Abraham and Moses are mentioned in there makes a difference in Israel’s gifts and calling vs. the church and that they were looking for a heavenly country.
Matthew 8:11; Jesus said that many shall come from the east and west and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the Kingdom of Heaven which will be the kingdom on earth.


2. This has nothing to do with the Earthly Davidic Kingdom of Heaven which is the millennial kingdom which has to do with Israel’s earthly calling.

3. The promise they didn’t receive is seeing the New Covenant come to fruition or completion.
V 40; God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
The better thing for us is the New Covenant and it’s realities of which the Old Covenant sacrifices and rituals.
Abel, Noah and Abraham sacrifices were shadows.
The Old Covenant people were saved but not to the uttermost till Calvary and that is the same time we could be perfected.

4. So once again you have shown you don’t understand context.
This doesn’t have nothing to do with the Davidic Covenant promised to Israel being at the head of the nations Isaiah 2:2-4 and having a country where Christ will rule the whole earth from Isaiah 2:2-4; 9:7.
Israel is where countries will have to come up to the feasts Zechariah 14 Israel are the ones that were given the oracles Romans 3 and the battle of Armageddon is for the purpose is to save Israel from all the armies of the world Revelation 16:16;19. Read Zechariah 14:1-9.
You are so obvious in being one sided and unfair and not knowing context it is getting old.
I believe you still owe me an apology for implying I am not saved when I have not said anything to deserve that or that would make anyone think that.
Don’t you understand how arrogant your implication was to say if you don’t have this teacher and to claim that you and all those that have the New Covenant have the Holy Spirit already. You need to quit playing games and be ashamed of yourself for it is not becoming of a Christian. Jerry Kelso

jerry kelso said:

1. You really think because Abraham and Moses are mentioned in there makes a difference in Israel’s gifts and calling vs. the church and that they were looking for a heavenly country.

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jerry,

There is no Scripture which speaks of "Israel's gifts and calling" except for those of Israel who are part of God's Church -- His beloved elect remnant (Romans 11:5,28).

Gifts and calling are the exclusive possessions of those who have put their faith in His Son: His Church.


Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith.

1 Corinthians 12:1
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:12
Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.


1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.

Ephesians 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints.

Ephesians 4:4
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.

2 Thessalonians 1:11
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power.

2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus.

2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

The only Bible verse I know of that prophesies a "one world government" is this one:

Isaiah 9:7
Of the increase of His government and peace
There will be no end,
Upon the throne of David and over His kingdom,
To order it and establish it with judgment and justice
From that time forward, even forever.
The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.

jgr said:

jerry,

There is no Scripture which speaks of "Israel's gifts and calling" except for those of Israel who are part of God's Church -- His beloved elect remnant (Romans 11:5,28).

Gifts and calling are the exclusive possessions of those who have put their faith in His Son: His Church.


Romans 12:6
Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith.

1 Corinthians 12:1
Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

1 Corinthians 12:28
And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

1 Corinthians 14:12
Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.


1 Corinthians 1:26
For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called.

Ephesians 1:18
The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints.

Ephesians 4:4
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling.

2 Thessalonians 1:11
Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power.

2 Timothy 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began.

Hebrews 3:1
Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus.

2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

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jgr,

1. You are talking about the churches calling which is a par taker of the Heavenly calling.

2. Romans 11:1-2; 25-29 speaks of the nation of all Israel not just the remnant.
The spiritual Jew theory and replacement theology is why most people believe that Israel has no earthly calling.

3. 2 Samuel 7:13-16; 1 Chronicles 28:1-8 show the Davidic Covenant with the nation of Israel to be unconditional in coming to pass and conditioned by the whole nations obedience.
Ezekiel 37:16-20 shows David will rule over Israel when Israel and Judah become 1 stick in the future which will be the millennial kingdom.
In Jesus day he offered Israel the Kingdom Of Heaven but the nation rejected him.
Right before Jesus ascended the Apostles were still wondering about the KoH being established and Jesus said it wasn’t for them to know the times and seasons.
He didn’t say it wouldn’t come to pass but it wasn’t for them to know at all. They all died and it still is not here. It will come in the future when Christ comes back and Israel will inhabit safely. Zechariah 14:1-11

4. Romans 11; Paul said, Hath God cast away his people? For I am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham of the tribe of Benjamin.
V2; God has not cast away his eyes people which he foreknew.
V3-4 God has always had a remnant and in v 5 has a remnant at the present according to grace.
Israel has not attained salvation but the election which is the remnant had obtained it v7.
V8; God gave Israel the spirit of slumber
even in Paul’s day is why Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:6-12 hadn’t been fulfilled then and is still not.
Israel stumbled but not completely fell forever and it is the church that provokes them to jealousy to come back to God Romans 11:11.
The church cannot be proudful for God spared not the natural branches which is Israel.
God can graft them in again into their own olive tree v24.

5. Vs 25-29 is talking about the nation of Israel.
It couldn’t be talking about the remnant cause the remnant doesn’t have to be saved.
This will not happen till the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
God’s covenant unto Israel when takes away their sins v27.
In v 28; as concerning the gospel ; they are enemies for your sakes, but as touching the election, they are beloved the father’s sake.
The election of grace filled Jews wouldn’t be against the gospel for they believe the gospel.
V29; For the gifts and callings are without repentance. This is still talking to the backslidden nation of Israel directly. It touches the election remnant of Jews in the future kingdom.
The gifts and callings are with the nation of Israel concerning the Davidic Covenant. Without repentance means that Israel will fulfill their gifts and callings according to the Davidic covenant as an unconditional promise going back to the Old Testament.
Israel’s future repentance and receiving the gifts and callings and their proper place in the fire KoH after the time of Jacob’s trouble is why they are beloved for the Father’s sake and enemies for the for our sakes for most are not believers at all so they are not helping in preparing the gospel.

6. All Israel will be in the kingdom once they come through the tribulation.
Revelation 12:13-16 shows the woman preserved in the wilderness and the fleeing believing remnant v 17.
All the house of Israel and all the house of Judah and the believing remnant will be all of Israel that will be saved. Jerry Kelso