Romans 6 is a perfect example of missing critical truth!

The Old Covenant and God's written Word are two entirely different things. You seem to agree with 2 Tim 3:16 yet claim the OT is no longer relevant for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.… Did God change his mind?

BCsenior said:

This is unbelievable!
You are making up your own doctrine about who an overcomer is!
None of your 3 references above mention "overcoming" at all.

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??? This is such an obvious attempt at deflection. Did I say the scripture references mentioned the term "overcomer"? No. They were given in support of the statements I made about Christ, etc. - none of which you addressed.

John 16:33
1 John 4:4
1 John 5:5
Colossians 2:13-15
1 Corinthians 15:57

Sorry if I misunderstood you...

Would you like to try again - what wasn't clear??

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Gloogl honeycomb.
also look up <refined> sugar. (and see 'five white poisons' in the search

- note that honeycomb, honey, stevia, are nothing at all like the poisons)

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I'll abide by..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer." (1 Tim 4:4-5).
But also by..."Let your moderation be known unto all men." (Phil 4:5)

Phil W said:

I'll abide by..."For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer." (1 Tim 4:4-5).
But also by..."Let your moderation be known unto all men." (Phil 4:5)

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Now I honestly cannot tell if you are seeking the truth as from Yahuweh Creator Sovereign, for all things,
or just enough "to get by", and meanwhile relax from the truth a lot so as not to cause too many (maybe not any) disruptions in life ..... while permitting (even though hopefully unwittingly) much that causes disease to go unchecked and without even a caution ?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Now I honestly cannot tell if you are seeking the truth as from Yahuweh Creator Sovereign, for all things,
or just enough "to get by", and meanwhile relax from the truth a lot so as not to cause too many (maybe not any) disruptions in life ..... while permitting (even though hopefully unwittingly) much that causes disease to go unchecked and without even a caution ?

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I didn't know that anabaptist were Judaizers?
The Mosaic Law is dead and gone.

Phil W said:

I didn't know that anabaptist were Judaizers?
The Mosaic Law is dead and gone.

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You still don't know.

And then, you contradict Jesus. OH MY.......

yeshuaslavejeff said:

You still don't know.

And then, you contradict Jesus. OH MY.......

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Elaborate, please.

Phil W said:

Elaborate, please.

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What does Yahushua Hamashiach (Jesus Messiah) Say Himself ? (about TORAH) (several times)

yeshuaslavejeff said:

What does Yahushua Hamashiach (Jesus Messiah) Say Himself ? (about TORAH) (several times)

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He said He came to fulfill it.
It is fulfilled.
He was the ONE that cast the shadow you are still trying to live by.
It is written..."Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled." (Titus 1:15)
Unto the pure Twinkies are pure.

Phil W said:

He said He came to fulfill it.
It is fulfilled.
He was the ONE that cast the shadow you are still trying to live by.
It is written..."Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled." (Titus 1:15)
Unto the pure Twinkies are pure.

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So the impure ignore what Jesus says about TORAH? "Heaven and earth will pass away, but not one jot nor tittle (not the least little bit) of TORAH will pass away by then"

Phil W said:

Unto the pure Twinkies are pure.

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Not if the true knowledge about twinkies becomes known to them.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

So the impure ignore what Jesus says about TORAH? "Heaven and earth will pass away, but not one jot nor tittle (not the least little bit) of TORAH will pass away by then"

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Of course the "impure" ignore anything about Godliness...like, "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled." (Titus 1:15)
If your conscience is defiled by eating Twinkies, don't eat them.
Mine isn't.

Phil W said:

Of course the "impure" ignore anything about Godliness...like, "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled." (Titus 1:15)
If your conscience is defiled by eating Twinkies, don't eat them.
Mine isn't.

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If you find out what they do to your body, immune system, heart, digestive system, and other parts of your body and immune system,
and continue eating them, it is not your conscience to worry about.

Also, worse still, if you cause a little child to stumble or to become sick, that may be a woe, and definitely a warning is needed....

yeshuaslavejeff said:

If you find out what they do to your body, immune system, heart, digestive system, and other parts of your body and immune system,
and continue eating them, it is not your conscience to worry about.

Also, worse still, if you cause a little child to stumble or to become sick, that may be a woe, and definitely a warning is needed....

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Do Christians need to get circumcised too?

Phil W said:

Do Christians need to get circumcised too?

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Non-sequitur, sad to see you stoop so low.... and apparently without understanding either God's Word or His Power....

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Non-sequitur, sad to see you stoop so low.... and apparently without understanding either God's Word or His Power....

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How so?
You are advocating law keeping and circumcision is part of the law, so it is as required as much as anything else you deem "Torah".
If eating Twinkies is a sin, then so is never going to Jerusalem to worship at the temple...especially at Passover.

Phil W said:

You are advocating law keeping

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As Yahuweh always does, as Jesus always does....

or can you show where Jesus said to disobey Yahuweh ? To 'break' TORAH and transgress (sin) willingly ?

Does not Scripture even state to OBEY local authorities/ the country laws where you live,
or do you believe you should be a law breaker there too, a transgressor of man's laws as well as a transgressor of God's Law ?