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Is there fire in hell?

Depends on what a person believes what hell is.

Some believe hell is the grave and people are resting (dormant/unconscience) in the grave, waiting for the Lords return and the first resurrection happens. Later, after the very end, the second resurrection happens and judgement of the wicked lost who are all dead (destroyed by the brightness of His coming) will be completely destroyed by eternal fire, never to exist again.

Others believe there is a place of eternal torment that lasts for eternity.

Others believe there are "compartments" in hell.

Likely other beliefs .... really it seems what the real question(s) surround ... immortality ... that is ....
is there anything at all immortal about us?

Is there "something conscience" that survives our earthly death? If so, where does that "something" go and what "form" is it in?

It's about the state of the dead (earthly death)

1 Thessalonians 4

The Return of the Lord

13Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Depending on what one believes about the state of the dead (earthly) ... leads them down different theology "paths", beliefs.
 
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But at the same time I also wanna know.
The fire is the least of the punishment. Being separated eternally from the Presence of God is what comes to mind as unbearable. Even now the unregenerate enjoy the common grace of God.
 
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Is there fire in hell?

It depends on what is meant with hell. If Gehenna is not the same as hell, then it may be not the same as the fire lake.

… Gehenna, into the unquenchable fire,
Mark 9:43

…Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. If anyone was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:15
 
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The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other trans-lations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Some translations use she’ohl´ (Hebrew) and its equivalent hai´des, (Greek) which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind. “Hades” is the ancient mythical Greek name for their “god“ of the “underworld.” Also, ge´en•na (Greek), which was used as a symbol of eternal destruction. Furthermore, modern translators of the Bible have nurtured this doctrine by not rendering an accurate translations of these words within the various editions of the Bible; these same translators are not even consistent in their different applications in the various context of the scriptures.

The ancient Babylonian and Assyrian have been identified mostly as the ancient peoples whose religious beliefs of a “nether world…place of horrors” gave birth to this fallacy. The ancient Egyptian added to this with a “fiery aspect.” Buddhism, in time, evolved a concept of “hot and cold hells.” Sadly, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).

God warned the human families’ first parents what the results for disobedience would be: death and returning to dust. (Genesis. 2:17; 3:19) Other than the conditions that imperfection brings, no other conditions were given as a warning to be imposed after death. Apostle Paul counseled that death acquits us of our sins; furthermore, he stated that the wages for sin is death-nothing else. (Romans 6:7, 23; Ecclesiastes 9:5, 6, 10; Psalms 146:3, 4) Theological doctrine as “Hell/Hades.” is only one of Satan (Opposer) the Devil’s (Slanderer) ploys to mislead many. (Revelation 12:9) Remember that he is the “father of the lie” and the god of this system of things. (John 8:44; 12:31; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 6:11; 1 Peter 5:8; 1 John 5:19) The correct translations are the common grave or pit. (Job 17:16; 34:15; Psalms 146:4; Ecclesiastes 3:20; Isaiah 14:11) These are only a few scriptures comforting us of the condition of the dead.
 
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Is there fire in hell?

Real "Fire and Brimstone" according to Rev 14 and Rev 20...

No doubt about it.

"Fear him who is able to destroy both body AND soul in fiery hell" Matt 10:28
 
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Yes there is, because the rich man in hell told Abraham that he was being tormented in "this flame".

He even prayed to Abraham to get him some relief or command one of the saints who had died to go to the living and warn them... in that parable.
 
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Is the Fire in Hell Real? | Soul Choice Ministries

If the fire in hell is only metaphorical, then why did Jesus state in Luke 16 that the rich man wanted a drop of water to cool his tongue, as he was in tormented in the flame? If it were only flames of mental anguish as some say, then why would water suffice?

In John 15:6, why did Jesus compare men being gathered, just as branches that are withered, and are thrown into the fire and burned? If the comparison really didn’t mean actual burning, then why use burning in the first place?
 
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Is the Fire in Hell Real? | Soul Choice Ministries

If the fire in hell is only metaphorical, then why did Jesus state in Luke 16 that the rich man wanted a drop of water to cool his tongue, as he was in tormented in the flame? If it were only flames of mental anguish as some say, then why would water suffice?

In John 15:6, why did Jesus compare men being gathered, just as branches that are withered, and are thrown into the fire and burned? If the comparison really didn’t mean actual burning, then why use burning in the first place?

The thing about parables is that they're parables.

The poor man in the parable is said to be in Paradise or Abraham's Bosom. In the Jewish view of She'ol in Jesus' time with it being divided between Paradise and Gehenna, Paradise is actually Gan-Eden (Garden of Eden) in Hebrew. The word "Paradise" comes to us from the Greek, but the Greek borrowed it from Persian, pairidaeza, "enclosed garden" or "park"--the Greek has roughly the same meaning, meaning "garden". Perhaps even more confusingly, Paradise/the Garden of Eden was also said to be located in the third heaven in 2nd Temple Period Jewish writings (compare with St. Paul speaking of the man being taken up into the third heaven to see Paradise).

Couple this with the fact that Gehenna (Ge-Hinnom) refers to the Valley of Hinnom, a valley outside of Jerusalem which was the site, in ancient times, where child sacrifice was practiced, the center for the cult of Moloch (c.f. Jeremiah 7:31).

It gets difficult to try to be too literal then with these things. Otherwise we get a situation where the righteous go to a transplanted Garden of Eden and the wicked to some parallel version of the Hinnom Valley; both located presumably somewhere underground and simultaneously with Eden somewhere "out there".

However, by understanding that the terms Paradise and Gehenna refer metaphorically to the condition of the righteous and the wicked dead, and that the contradictory/paradoxical concepts of both fire and darkness associated with Gehenna as metaphorical (and, along with the image of an undying worm) we have metaphors to describe its misery, its association with death, and so forth.

And thus the imagery Jesus provides for us in His Parable of Dives and Lazarus is graphic and powerful, but not literal.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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And thus the imagery Jesus provides for us in His Parable of Dives and Lazarus is graphic and powerful, but not literal.
-CryptoLutheran
Who is the imagery Jesus?

Are you saying there is not a hell?

M-Bob
 
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