places where Jesus quoted sources outside protestant OT.

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Pagan authors quoted or alluded to:[20][21]

Menander, Thais 218 (1 Cor. 15:33)
Epimenides, de Oraculis, (Titus 1:12-13, where Paul introduces Epimenides as "a prophet of the Cretans," see Epimenides paradox)
Aratus, Phaenomena 5, (Acts 17:28, where Paul refers to the words of "some of your own poets")
Non-canonical books quoted or alluded to:[20]

Book of Enoch (Jude 1:4, 1:6, 1:13, 1:14–15,[22], 2 Peter 2:4; 3:13,[23][24] and John 7:38 [25]).
Book of Jasher (2 Timothy 3:8, 2 Samuel 1:18, Joshua 10:13[1])
Epistle to the Laodiceans (Colossians 4:16 "read the epistle from Laodicea")
Life of Adam and Eve (2 Corinthians 11:14 "Satan as an angel of light", 12:2 "Third Heaven")[26]
A lost section of the Assumption of Moses (2 Timothy 3:8, Jude 9 "Michael.. body of Moses")
Martyrdom of Isaiah (Hebrews 11:37 "they were sawn in two")
Paul's letter to the Corinthians before 1 Corinthians (1 Corinthians 5:9 "I wrote to you in my letter...")
An unknown messianic prophecy possibly from a non-canonical source, quoted in Matthew 2:23 that states "...he will be called a Nazorian." ("ὅτι Ναζωραῖος κληθήσεται"). "Nazorian" is typically rendered as "Nazarene" ("from Nazareth"), as in Acts 24:5, where Christians are referred to as "the sect of the Nazorians/Nazarenes" ("τῶν Ναζωραίων αἱρέσεως"). This is speculated to be a vague allusion to a quote by Samson in Judges 13:5 that uses a similar-sounding word: "the child shall be a Nazirite" (ναζιρ)
An unknown version of Genesis (possibly a targum, midrash or other commentary), quoted by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:45, as a reference to Christ's being "the Last Adam who became a life-giving spirit" (οὕτως καὶ γέγραπται· Ἐγένετο ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος Ἀδὰμ εἰς ψυχὴν ζῶσαν· ὁ ἔσχατος Ἀδὰμ εἰς πνεῦμα ζῳοποιοῦν.). It has been speculated that Paul is simply paraphrasing Genesis 2:7, but there is no clear indication that this is not a complete quote.
An unknown text quoted by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:9, suggested by Origen to be a lost apocryphal book [27]: "But as it is written, 'No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him." This may also be an allusion to the similar Isaiah 64:4, "For from days of old they have not heard or perceived by ear, nor has the eye seen a God besides You, Who acts in behalf of the one who waits for Him.'"[28].
An unknown messianic prophecy, possibly from a non-canonical source, quoted in Luke 24:46, speculated to be a vague allusion to Hosea 6:2 [29]: "Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day."
An unknown messianic prophecy, possibly from a non-canonical source, quoted in Mark 9:12, speculated to be a vague allusion to Isaiah 53: "and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought."
 

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The Scriptures Jesus was talking about was the Scriptures BEFORE either the Jewish and Christian Orthodox Canon.

That scripture is not (=/=) the same as the Bible.

The other name of that book is also called "The Book of Prophecy" because it actually prophesied all the works of Christ - which makes our New Testament redundant.

Sadly, those copies are probably mostly destroyed (intentionally) and locked up somewhere. The fire at the Library at Alexandria was probably related to it. Many many years of relevant history turned to ashes.

These things are quite relevant to the AntiChrist, otherwise, how else can he deceive everyone in the world?
 
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The Scriptures Jesus was talking about was the Scriptures BEFORE either the Jewish and Christian Orthodox Canon.

That scripture is not (=/=) the same as the Bible.

The other name of that book is also called "The Book of Prophecy" because it actually prophesied all the works of Christ - which makes our New Testament redundant.

Sadly, those copies are probably mostly destroyed (intentionally) and locked up somewhere. The fire at the Library at Alexandria was probably related to it. Many many years of relevant history turned to ashes.

These things are quite relevant to the AntiChrist, otherwise, how else can he deceive everyone in the world?


The Jewish Council you are thinking of was not to finalize the Hebrew Canon. It discussed a few difficult to understand books. History to my knowledge shows that the OT was in place. Otherwise, it would be odd for Jesus and the Apostles to quote the Hebrew Scriptures. The LXX would have also indicated that the Hebrew Canon was already in place a few hundred years before Christ.

It is not likely Christian works were in Library at Alexandria, but I can be wrong.

Take note, that I am an Educated Historian.
 
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Pagan authors quoted or alluded to:[20][21]

Menander, Thais 218 (1 Cor. 15:33)
Epimenides, de Oraculis, (Titus 1:12-13, where Paul introduces Epimenides as "a prophet of the Cretans," see Epimenides paradox)
Aratus, Phaenomena 5, (Acts 17:28, where Paul refers to the words of "some of your own poets")
Non-canonical books quoted or alluded to:[20]

Book of Enoch (Jude 1:4, 1:6, 1:13, 1:14–15,[22], 2 Peter 2:4; 3:13,[23][24] and John 7:38 [25]).
Book of Jasher (2 Timothy 3:8, 2 Samuel 1:18, Joshua 10:13[1])
Epistle to the Laodiceans (Colossians 4:16 "read the epistle from Laodicea")
Life of Adam and Eve (2 Corinthians 11:14 "Satan as an angel of light", 12:2 "Third Heaven")[26]
A lost section of the Assumption of Moses (2 Timothy 3:8, Jude 9 "Michael.. body of Moses")
Martyrdom of Isaiah (Hebrews 11:37 "they were sawn in two")
Paul's letter to the Corinthians before 1 Corinthians (1 Corinthians 5:9 "I wrote to you in my letter...")
An unknown messianic prophecy possibly from a non-canonical source, quoted in Matthew 2:23 that states "...he will be called a Nazorian." ("ὅτι Ναζωραῖος κληθήσεται"). "Nazorian" is typically rendered as "Nazarene" ("from Nazareth"), as in Acts 24:5, where Christians are referred to as "the sect of the Nazorians/Nazarenes" ("τῶν Ναζωραίων αἱρέσεως"). This is speculated to be a vague allusion to a quote by Samson in Judges 13:5 that uses a similar-sounding word: "the child shall be a Nazirite" (ναζιρ)
An unknown version of Genesis (possibly a targum, midrash or other commentary), quoted by Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:45, as a reference to Christ's being "the Last Adam who became a life-giving spirit" (οὕτως καὶ γέγραπται· Ἐγένετο ὁ πρῶτος ἄνθρωπος Ἀδὰμ εἰς ψυχὴν ζῶσαν· ὁ ἔσχατος Ἀδὰμ εἰς πνεῦμα ζῳοποιοῦν.). It has been speculated that Paul is simply paraphrasing Genesis 2:7, but there is no clear indication that this is not a complete quote.
An unknown text quoted by Paul in 1 Corinthians 2:9, suggested by Origen to be a lost apocryphal book [27]: "But as it is written, 'No eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has imagined the things that God has prepared for those who love him." This may also be an allusion to the similar Isaiah 64:4, "For from days of old they have not heard or perceived by ear, nor has the eye seen a God besides You, Who acts in behalf of the one who waits for Him.'"[28].
An unknown messianic prophecy, possibly from a non-canonical source, quoted in Luke 24:46, speculated to be a vague allusion to Hosea 6:2 [29]: "Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day."
An unknown messianic prophecy, possibly from a non-canonical source, quoted in Mark 9:12, speculated to be a vague allusion to Isaiah 53: "and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought."
Inspired or inspiring sources outside of canon. Who'dathunk?
 
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Inspired or inspiring sources outside of canon. Who'dathunk?

I think even pagans gain some light from being in this world and writers and teachers in the NT simply quoted those rays of light. There are even references to the books of non-protestant scripture books in the NT.
 
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I think even pagans gain some light from being in this world and writers and teachers in the NT simply quoted those rays of light. There are even references to the books of non-protestant scripture books in the NT.
While a lot of pagans/ heathen peoples believe this also,

it seems directly opposed/ contrary to what God Says.

There is no such thing as "non-protestant Scripture books in the NT" the way you seem to mean it, as far as I know.

Also, Scripture, Yahuweh's Word, is not a "Protestant" possession in that way....
 
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Take note, that I am an Educated Historian.
This could explain some things.

Jesus Words: PRAISE YOU HEAVENLY FATHER< for REVEALING SALVATION to little children, and hiding salvation from the educated ones,
BECAUSE THIS WAS YOUR GOOD PLEASURE SO TO DO.
 
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I think even pagans gain some light from being in this world and writers and teachers in the NT simply quoted those rays of light. There are even references to the books of non-protestant scripture books in the NT.
I have heard that there are revered writings in the east that describe all kinds of things that are depicted in the Bible, such as a worldwide flood, to name just one.
 
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Your secret is safe with me. lol

Take note, that I am a Military-Industrial Complex-trained CNC Machinist.

Do you have any hints of making my own CNC machine?

Thanks,
Daniel
 
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Take note, that I am an Educated Historian.

Your publications? I love reading histories from unknown authors. What is your opinion, Educated Historian, on the proposal that the LXX was the most likely source of OT quotes in the NT?
 
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