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Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mind.

Hell was originally created or prepared for the devil and his angels.

"Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:" (Matthew 25:41).​

But we know that the devil and his minions are not stuck down in hell alone. The devil was able to deceive Eve through the serpent (Genesis 3:1-6) (Revelation 20:2). The devil is able to go before GOD and accuse his servant Job 1:6-12 (Which is suggestive that this took place in God's Kingdom up in His Heavenly realm).

The war in heaven where Satan is cast out in Revelation 12:7-12 is suggestive that it is still yet a future event that has not happened yet because the devil being cast down to the earth is referring to the timing of the last 3 and half years of the 7 year tribulation (See: Revelation 12:13-14). So this means that the devil was not cast out of Heaven yet (although I believe he does not have unrestricted access to all of Heaven and he can only make visits to make accusations against God's people or to make a case to God for other reasons).

I believe the angels were created on Day 2 according to Psalms 104. Note: The words in blue and red within brackets is my commentary to the text below.

1 "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment [The beginning of verse 2 here is possibly suggestive of "Day #1" within the 6 day Creation week where God brings forth light within our universe]: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire [The latter half of verse 2, and verses 3-4 are suggestive of "Day #2" when God created the three different Heavens within our universe, i.e. (a) the Sky, (b) Space, and (c) The dwelling place of God's kingdom His, throne and His angels, etc.; Take note that it says He that God creates his angels here when talking about the creation of the Heavens]:
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever [This is suggestive of "Day #3" within the creation week where GOD makes the dry land to appear].
["Gap of Time"]
6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. [At this point, the mention of the creation week is no long mentioned anymore; Here in verse 6 it continues with the mention of the "Global Flood" that happens later in Genesis 7 - See: Genesis 7:19-20 in how the flood waters covered the highest mountains.]" (Psalms 104:1-6).​

Note: This is not in conflict of when the angels shouted for joy when the foundations where laid according to Job.

6 "Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"
(Job 38:6-7).​

For the angels were created on Day #2 along with the Heavens, and the foundations of the Earth (dry land) were laid after on Day #3 of the creation week.

At the mention of the end of the creation week in Genesis 2, we see these words mentioned.

"Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them."
(Genesis 2:1).​

I believe the "host of them" (i.e. the host, or those living within the heavens and the earth) are the angels, animals, man.

Genesis chapter 2 is merely detailed breakdown of the events of "Day 6" that we did not get to see in Genesis chapter 1. For Genesis 1 just gives us a quick summary of how Adam and Eve were created, but Genesis 2 goes into more detail about it. Genesis chapter 3 talks about how the devil sets out to deceive Eve via through the possession of a creature called the "serpent." So the "Rebellion of the Devil and His Angels" must take place sometime between Genesis chapters 2-3.

Isaiah 14:12-14, and Ezekiel 28:14-17 speaks of the rebellion of Lucifer (i.e. the devil or satan).

12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."
(Isaiah 14:12-14).​

12 "...Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God:"
(Ezekiel 28:12-16).​

The future judgment of the devil and his destruction or annihilation from existence (that has not happened yet) is also mentioned in Isaiah 14, and Ezekiel 28.

15 "Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?
18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.
19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet." (Isaiah 14:15-19).

16 "...and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more." (Ezekiel 28:16-19).​

In conclusion, while there is no official Scripture verses on when hell was created, hell was most likely created between Genesis chapters 2-3 as a preparation of letting the devil and his minions know of where they were going to go in the future as a result of their rebellion. Obviously bad men had to go to some place when they die, so naturally GOD would have been prepared for this. Hell was originally created for the purpose of the devil and his minions, but it expanded to include wicked men who reject Christ and or who reject in following or obeying Him.

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I hope that what I said here helps.

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Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mind :) Tyvm!
I wonder, since it burns forever and ever, if it isn't God when those not clothed in Christ's righteousness are exposed to his presence? Moses had to be shielded from him on the mount.


“He alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen.” 1 Timothy 6:16 (NET)
 
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As for others here who suggest that there is a dimension where time acts differently:

Well, I used to defend the view of how GOD existed in all points in time: Past, present, future simultaneously. I also use to hypothesize that maybe the dimension of hell was also outside of time in some way. But this was merely my influence from Science Fiction movies, books, comics, etc. (that I don't watch anymore); The Bible mentions nothing of these kinds of things except how GOD has a perception of time that a thousand years is like a day to Him, and a day is like a thousand years. That does not mean GOD literally is existing in such a way. It uses the word "like" (NASB) or "as" (KJV) here as a way of comparison (See 2 Peter 3:8).

The reason why I abandoned the view that says that GOD exists in all points in time is because Jesus paid for mankind's sins once for all time (Hebrews 10:12-14) (Romans 6:10). Jesus took care of man's sin one time so as to offer Him the free gift of salvation if they so choose to accept such a gift (Under God's enlightenment or illumination or drawing at the right point or points in their life). In short, Jesus is still not reliving the death of the cross and continually offering Himself up over and over and over again every second of every day. Also, GOD rests on the 7th day in Genesis (See: Genesis 2:2-3), He would not really be resting on the 7th day if He was still living in the past creation week and still working. The Bible makes it clear that GOD does things that are unique and that they happen just one time. This leads me to believe that GOD operates in our timeline.

Does GOD have the power to operate in all points in time? Most definitely! But does He do this? I do not see any evidence of this in Scripture. In fact, it is contradictory to Scripture.

As for the fair judgment of the wicked in hell:

While I am not stating this as 100% fact, I believe it is possible that the wicked in hell go through long periods of sleep and they are possibly awakened at certain points in time. We see the wicked clearly can be conscious and awake in hell like in the account of rich-man and Lazarus. But we also know GOD is fair and just and he will not punish a person waaay beyond what the crime calls for, either (See: Luke 12:47-48).
 
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If you are talking about the general idea of the place of torture and torment for the bad people, I believe it may have been created 100 or so years ago in the mind of Man.

It is is best not to try and un-create it, because it is the sole reason that many try to be good and serve God.
 
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Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mind :) Tyvm!

Hell is the grave ... people are dormant (not conscience) in the grave (referred to as sleep) ... and will be resurrected in either the 1st or second resurrection.

Therefore .... the 1st death (earthly death) entered into the world when Adam & Eve sinned.

Genesis 3

2The woman answered the serpent, “We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden, 3but about the fruit of the tree in the middle of the garden, God has said, ‘You must not eat of it or touch it, or you will die.’ (1st earthly death - go to the grave)

and they both ate

Romans 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death (1st & 2nd death), but the gift of God is eternal life (will not experience the 2nd death, they receive eternal life) in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Ecclesiastes 9

5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten.

1 Thessalonians 4

13Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. 14For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.

15By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.

18Therefore encourage one another with these words.

Right now satan and his minions are roaming the earth .... at the very end God will destroy them and all the lost wicked with eternal fire ... thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed for eternity.

The only "holding place" for all the dead is .... is the grave (dormant and unconscious)
 
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Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mind :) Tyvm!

I'm not sure hell is "created" yet... Maybe hell appears after judgement? Where God isn't, hell is.
 
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I believe the angels are in three groups....

Michael - Over strong angels
Gabriel - Over wise angels
Lucifer - Over illuminated angels - Who would fall....

And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. - Revelation 12:3-5

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: - Matthew 25:41

I believe the creation of this universe, as well as hell itself, was instigated by Lucifer’s fall. And we humans were created to replace the vacated heavens.
 
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I'm not sure hell is "created" yet... Maybe hell appears after judgement? Where God isn't, hell is.
Is there a place where God isnt?

This seems to imply that hell exist now:
"If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there"
 
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Does anyone know when hell was created? Bible reference would be fantastic if you don't mind ..

For most of the world (not Biblical), "hell" was made up perhaps hundreds of years before Christ.
 
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Is there a place where God isnt?

This seems to imply that hell exist now:
"If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there"
Could you find out what the original says ? (I don't think it is written "hell" in the original)
 
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One argument used by people who reject hell is that they should spend only a certain amount of time to pay for their sins it was unfair for a small minor sin to stay the same length of time (forever) as a more heinous sin. My argument is that if there is no concept of time in hell then one is there moment to moment and forever could be the same suffering as but a few minutes as how do you tell the difference if time doesn't pass as we can feel it.

From what I'm understanding, you're arguing for the possibility of something similar to the movie "inception". For example, 10 million years in hell might actually just be a few minutes in earth's time. This would still give the possibility of the doctrine of limited punishment in hell as many are led to believe. They will be in hell for a long time but they believe it would end soon, in relation to time however, no one knows.

You argue for not knowing the feeling of time and consciousness because we aren't sure which is true, we aren't sure. But looking at what time is, and it is something that allows the future to come. Without time, I would not be able to write this because I would be frozen. No time, no movement. No time, no pain, no joy, no anything, no growth or decay. Which is necessary to understand because if you were to live in your mother's basement and block out the sunlight and stay there for a whole month. You'll go crazy! But why? Are you not still on this earth's time? That's because if we look at time by itself, it will continue on and on, even in the other dimension. We understand it better on earth because we have clocks, watches, and the sun, moon to give us an idea of the time. But take those things away and you see time is similar here and even in hell. It goes on, the only difference is that we get to impact our eternity now while in hell it is final! May the God of grace keep us for His glory amen!
 
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This would still give the possibility of the doctrine of limited punishment in hell as many are led to believe. They will be in hell for a long time but they believe it would end soon, in relation to time however, no one knows.
Even if "it ended", the punishment is eternal. i.e. once someone is destroyed, if they are destroyed , they don't re-appear - they are gone forever....
 
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Hell was originally created or prepared for the devil and his angels.


The war in heaven where Satan is cast out in Revelation 12:7-12 is suggestive that it is still yet a future event that has not happened yet because the devil being cast down to the earth is referring to the timing of the last 3 and half years of the 7 year tribulation (See: Revelation 12:13-14). So this means that the devil was not cast out of Heaven yet (although I believe he does not have unrestricted access to all of Heaven and he can only make visits to make accusations against God's people or to make a case to God for other reasons).

I believe the angels were created on Day 2 according to Psalms 104. Note: The words in blue and red within brackets is my commentary to the text below.

1 "Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty.
2 Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment [The beginning of verse 2 here is possibly suggestive of "Day #1" within the 6 day Creation week where God brings forth light within our universe]: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain:
3 Who layeth the beams of his chambers in the waters: who maketh the clouds his chariot: who walketh upon the wings of the wind:
4 Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire [The latter half of verse 2, and verses 3-4 are suggestive of "Day #2" when God created the three different Heavens within our universe, i.e. (a) the Sky, (b) Space, and (c) The dwelling place of God's kingdom His, throne and His angels, etc.; Take note that it says He that God creates his angels here when talking about the creation of the Heavens]:
5 Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever [This is suggestive of "Day #3" within the creation week where GOD makes the dry land to appear].
["Gap of Time"]
6 Thou coveredst it with the deep as with a garment: the waters stood above the mountains. [At this point, the mention of the creation week is no long mentioned anymore; Here in verse 6 it continues with the mention of the "Global Flood" that happens later in Genesis 7 - See: Genesis 7:19-20 in how the flood waters covered the highest mountains.]" (Psalms 104:1-6).​





You are most welcome.

I hope that what I said here helps.

May God's love and peace be upon you today.

Sincerely,

~ J.

Thanks so much, J.! great expository, props to you brother! May you continue on with it. I definitely agree with your conclusion though we can't be too sure. Thanks for your time, glad we can look forward to seeing God destroy Satan soon as the Scripture has said, "And the God of peace will crush Satan under your feet shortly." And as it continues, "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen" God bless you brother :)
 
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Even if "it ended", the punishment is eternal. i.e. once someone is destroyed, if they are destroyed , they don't re-appear - they are gone forever....

Oh, I believe they do appear again. For another death. Have a look of this for yourself in Revelation 20:11-15.

Much love,
L Bravehart.
 
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Oh, I believe they do appear again. For another death. Have a look of this for yourself in Revelation 20:11-15.

Much love,
L Bravehart.
As written,
that reference is to the re-appearing after the first death, not after being destroyed.
 
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One argument used by people who reject hell is that they should spend only a certain amount of time to pay for their sins it was unfair for a small minor sin to stay the same length of time (forever) as a more heinous sin. My argument is that if there is no concept of time in hell then one is there moment to moment and forever could be the same suffering as but a few minutes as how do you tell the difference if time doesn't pass as we can feel it.

Maybe the problem isn't the minor or heinous sins, but our nature inside. If we aren't born from above, how can we enter heaven?
 
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As for others here who suggest that there is a dimension where time acts differently:

Well, I used to defend the view of how GOD existed in all points in time: Past, present, future simultaneously. I also use to hypothesize that maybe the dimension of hell was also outside of time in some way. But this was merely my influence from Science Fiction movies, books, comics, etc. (that I don't watch anymore); The Bible mentions nothing of these kinds of things except how GOD has a perception of time that a thousand years is like a day to Him, and a day is like a thousand years. That does not mean GOD literally is existing in such a way. It uses the word "like" (NASB) or "as" (KJV) here as a way of comparison (See 2 Peter 3:8).

The reason why I abandoned the view that says that GOD exists in all points in time is because Jesus paid for mankind's sins once for all time (Hebrews 10:12-14) (Romans 6:10). Jesus took care of man's sin one time so as to offer Him the free gift of salvation if they so choose to accept such a gift (Under God's enlightenment or illumination or drawing at the right point or points in their life). In short, Jesus is still not reliving the death of the cross and continually offering Himself up over and over and over again every second of every day. Also, GOD rests on the 7th day in Genesis (See: Genesis 2:2-3), He would not really be resting on the 7th day if He was still living in the past creation week and still working. The Bible makes it clear that GOD does things that are unique and that they happen just one time. This leads me to believe that GOD operates in our timeline.

Does GOD have the power to operate in all points in time? Most definitely! But does He do this? I do not see any evidence of this in Scripture. In fact, it is contradictory to Scripture.

As for the fair judgment of the wicked in hell:

While I am not stating this as 100% fact, I believe it is possible that the wicked in hell go through long periods of sleep and they are possibly awakened at certain points in time. We see the wicked clearly can be conscious and awake in hell like in the account of rich-man and Lazarus. But we also know GOD is fair and just and he will not punish a person waaay beyond what the crime calls for, either (See: Luke 12:47-48).

Maybe He is not at every time period, but certainly, He knows all things and what will happen. And I would want to hear what you have to say more when you say they go to sleep and are awakened in hell?
 
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As written,
that reference is to the re-appearing after the first death, not after being destroyed.

The verse was talking about dead people being risen once again and judged. "And I saw the dead, small and great..." But let's expand on this idea. Where are the dead now that die and are not in Christ? Are they in paradise because Revelation 20 is not yet come. No, they are paying for their sins and rebellion in hell now. That's why that same Scripture reveals that "Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in the. And they were judged" What does this mean, other than that it might hint to two judgments, it shows that there are dead people right now, in hell. Why are they not destroyed? But are alive once again for another judgment? Because God is righteous and holy. And how can they be totally destroyed if He promises us in Isaiah 66:24 "And they shall go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Me. For their worm does not die, and their fire is not quenched. They shall be an abhorrence to all flesh." If they are wiped clean off the earth then we would not see them. Yet here, He Himself promise we will. And wouldn't it be fitting with Ecclesiastes 3:11 "Also He has put eternity in their hearts."

May God's grace be with you,
L Bravehart
 
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