Is the Rapture shown in 1Thess 4 showing in Revelation? If so, where?

Is the Rapture showing in Revelation?


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Nobody here is going to laugh at you.


"Do you think the angel Gabriel came to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then he failed to even mention the New Covenant?"

See Matthew 26:28, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and Hebrews 12:18-24, if you need some help.

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I was laughing at YOUR answer, because I knew it was error.
 
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If you do not know the answer to the question, just say so. Nobody here is going to laugh at you.
"Do you think the angel Gabriel came to reveal the timeline of the Messiah who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and then he failed to even mention the New Covenant?"
See Matthew 26:28, and Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and Hebrews 12:18-24, if you need some help.

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Let's look at Gabriel and Michael in Daniel in the Bible..........

Daniel 8:16
And I heard a Man's voice between the banks of the Ulai, who called, and said,
Gabriel, make this man understand the vision.”
Daniel 9:21
yes, while I was speaking in prayer, the Man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, reached me about the time of the evening offering.
Daniel 10:
5 I lifted up my eyes and looked, and behold! a Man clothed in linen,
with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. 6 His body was like beryl, his face like the appearance of lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of burnished bronze, and the sound of his words like the sound of a multitude.
13 But the prince of the Persian kingdom resisted me twenty-one days.
Then Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help Me, because I was detained there with the king of Persia.
21 “But I will tell you what is noted in the Scripture of Truth. (No one upholds me against these, except Michael your prince.

Daniel 12:1
“At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
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Gabriel visits the father of John the Baptist in the Sanctuary and later to Mary and Joseph............
Luke 1:
19 And the Messenger answering said to him, `I am Gabriy'el , who have been standing near before the God, and I was sent to speak unto thee, and to proclaim these good news to thee,
26 And in the sixth month was the Messenger Gabriy'el sent by God, to a city of the Galilee, the name of which [is] Nazareth,

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Jude 1:9
Yet Michael the Chief Messenger, in contending with the Devil, when He disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against Him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke You!”
Revelation 12:7
And war broke out in heaven: Michael and His Messenger fought with the Dragon; and the Dragon and His Messengers fought,

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Could these 2 Messengers in Revelation be Michael and Gabriel at the Harvest?

Revelation 14:
14 Then I looked, and behold! a white cloud,
and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another Messenger came out of the Santuary, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud,
“Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap,
for the harvest of the land is ripe.”
16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth,
and the earth was reaped.
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Archangel Michael in the Bible - Scripture Quotes and Summary

What does the Bible say about the Archangel Michael? Michael commands God's army against Satan's forces in the Book of Revelation found in the New Testament. It is during the war in heaven Archangel Michael conquers Satan. After the battle, Satan is cast to earth with the fallen angels, where he, "that ancient serpent called the devil," continue their efforts to "lead the whole world astray". In the book of Jude, Michael is referred to as "the archangel Michael." Learn more about Michael the Archangel from our collection of Bible Verses below!
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Archangel Gabriel in the Bible - Scripture Quotes and Summary

What does the Bible say about the Archangel Gabriel? Cited in the New Testament, in the Gospel of Luke, the angel Gabriel appears to Zechariah and the Virgin Mary, foreseeing the births of John the Baptist and Jesus. In many Christian doctrines, Gabriel is also regarded to as Saint Gabriel. Learn more about the Archangel Gabriel from the collection of Bible Verses below!
 
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" Prior to 1830, no church taught it in their creed, catechism or statement of faith."

I searched years ago and read about a man that wrote hymns and preached. I read the scroll where he talked about "caught up" before the great tribulation. This was 300-400 AD. I then watched a man on TV talk that was a well know Christian talked about this same man! And show'd the man scrolls. Then he found others going before 300AD talked about caught up before the tribulation.

Why some do not share this I don't know. Does this PROVE pre trib is the only way? No..not at all. Shows they did teach it and believe it as they did mid post. Its not a NEW doctrine. I read 1st thes and I never came away with.. this all happens AFTER Christ comes and touches the earth. What always gets me is what Paul said to them. He had no clue WHEN this was going to happen for he said "WE that remain". Who was "WE"? And then .. share this.. and comfort one another with these words? This is what will happen..so you never missed Him..he was telling them.. Its WHEN is what no one knows. Thats truth.

So me.. I live in the moment He gave me. I was not promised tomorrow.. I can't find that written. I can prepare for tomorrow. But I watch and looking as He said told us to. See I look at all not thinking MY personal belief is the only true way. This man was real.. did write hymns and preach and this was in 300-400 ad. Ya just can't google this in a day or so.. you REALLY have to dig and search and take a very long time. I just wanted to know if anyone ever talked about it before 1800's. To see if they were right. And its misleading.. its not true.

They did live sorry...but they did live as if JESUS was coming any moment. For me to think as if I was with Christ and He tells me Hes going back to His Fathers house to make us a home..and will come back and get us.. saying ..if this was not true He would have told us. To then watch Him go up.. and then see two angels saying...this same Christ will come back the same way. You telling me .. YOU would not KNOW Hes coming back any moment? He said He would. As I see it and I can be wrong. But CAUGHT UP will happen.. if one does not ADD to His word.. speculate.. say "what that verse is really saying".. then ded will rise.. we that remain will be caught up. Did ya see what I just said? I just caught myself.. WE that remain. Not them.. but WE! Some will be ready some will not.
 
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" Prior to 1830, no church taught it in their creed, catechism or statement of faith."

I searched years ago and read about a man that wrote hymns and preached. I read the scroll where he talked about "caught up" before the great tribulation. This was 300-400 AD.


And that's not even when it first began...it was accidentally started by Paul. People misread something he wrote and then he wrote them to correct the error but it stuck and it exists to this day.
 
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