Is God able to perfectly match us with the right spouse? Why or why not?

Neostarwcc · Oct 4, 2019

God has perfectly planned the lives of every human being that has walked this earth. But does this also include our spouses? I'm asking this question because sometimes God's "choice f ok f us can be emotionally and physically abusive, not interested in sex... the list goes on. Are these "bad" marriages ever planned by God? Before you go to say of course not! These were just "test" marriages. I wont accept that answer because God HATES divorce. He wouldn't plan for you to get divorced he would plan on the two of you to stay together if an abusive spouse was in his plans. Yes sometimes God tests us with abuse and "bad" stuff in our lives. So surely if we get divorced we failed the test right? Is this in Gods plan? Since he planned out every aspect of our lives? Why or why not?

Maria Billingsley · Oct 4, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
God has perfectly planned the lives of every human being that has walked this earth.

This may be somewhat misguided. God does not plan our lives, we do. And if He perfectly planned our lives , Adam would have never fallen from Grace.
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SkyWriting · Oct 4, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
God has perfectly planned the lives of every human being that has walked this earth. But does this also include our spouses? I'm asking this question because sometimes God's "choice f ok f us can be emotionally and physically abusive, not interested in sex... the list goes on. Are these "bad" marriages ever planned by God? Before you go to say of course not! These were just "test" marriages. I wont accept that answer because God HATES divorce. He wouldn't plan for you to get divorced he would plan on the two of you to stay together if an abusive spouse was in his plans. Yes sometimes God tests us with abuse and "bad" stuff in our lives. So surely if we get divorced we failed the test right? Is this in Gods plan? Since he planned out every aspect of our lives? Why or why not?

God never tests anybody. The easy life...is death.

Christ is Lord · Oct 4, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
So surely if we get divorced we failed the test right? Is this in Gods plan? Since he planned out every aspect of our lives? Why or why not?

That’s assuming that your current marriage was what God planned for you.

Christ is Lord · Oct 4, 2019

Christ is Lord said:
That’s assuming that your current marriage was what God planned for you.

Using that logic you can make the case that if someone ends up in hell that that was God’s plan for them.

Dennis Rhodes · Oct 4, 2019

the whole idea that God plans out every thing in our lives is false....it is so that we can blame God for everything we do not like.

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AllDayFaith · Oct 4, 2019

SkyWriting said:
God never tests anybody. The easy life...is death.

I believe that the Bible does say that God tests our faith. Genesis 22:1-2 Some time later God tested Abraham.

AllDayFaith · Oct 4, 2019

I don't think that God matches us with a spouse, in the Bible it says that when a man finds a wife, he will have found what's good in the world. See the keyword? "Find a Wife."

We as men have to go out and find a wife among the people around us.

SkyWriting · Oct 4, 2019

Christ is Lord said:
Using that logic you can make the case that if someone ends up in hell that that was God’s plan for them.

That is correct.

2 Thessalonians 2
Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false,

Romans 1
And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

John 12
Therefore they could not believe. For again Isaiah said, “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, lest they see with their eyes, and understand with their heart, and turn, and I would heal them.”

AllDayFaith · Oct 4, 2019

SkyWriting said:
That is correct. God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

Oh man, what chance does a man have if God himself gives you up to a debased mind? This is heartbreaking to me, because God would have given them a sound mind if all they would do is worship Him.

SkyWriting · Oct 4, 2019

AllDayFaith said:
Oh man, what chance does a man have if God himself gives you up to a debased mind? This is heartbreaking to me, because God would have given them a sound mind if all they would do is worship Him.

Yes, tears are appropriate.

dailyprayerwarrior · Oct 4, 2019

Jeremiah 10:23 says that it is not in man to direct His own steps. God has a plan (Jeremiah 29:11) for everyone's life. Its up to us to listen and obey Him as He leads us. And yes, I believe He knows who would be the best match for us for why would the Word say not to be unequally yoked with an unbeliever? Surely He knows the incredible importance of how the "one" we choose to marry can make or break a life. The Holy Spirit is our Guide and He will lead us daily IF we take the time to diligently seek Him.

Neostarwcc · Oct 4, 2019

AllDayFaith said:
I don't think that God matches us with a spouse, in the Bible it says that when a man finds a wife, he will have found what's good in the world. See the keyword? "Find a Wife."

We as men have to go out and find a wife among the people around us.

Technically I met my wife under special circumstances. I met her on another message board in the middle of the blue. When I fell in love with her it was instantaneous. She fell in love with me during a college trip a few weeks after we met.

Technically I didnt go on that board looking for a wife. A wife kind of found me. True, I actually sent her a message and initiated the conversation but what caused me to do that? And I definitely didnt know when I messaged her that I would spend the rest of my life (and eternity) with her. God MUST have placed her into my life. Did Adam choose Eve? No God placed Eve into Gods life and I argue that he does that for EVERY married couple not just me or Adam, or Abraham, or any other biblical character but EVERYONE.

Idk to me for a couple to divorce is the couple basically saying to God "we knew more than you did and we could care less that you chose us for each other." Its just wrong imo.

Dennis Rhodes · Oct 4, 2019

dailyprayerwarrior said:
Jeremiah 10:23 says that it is not in man to direct His own steps. God has a plan (Jeremiah 29:11) for everyone's life. Its up to us to listen and obey Him as He leads us. And yes, I believe He knows who would be the best match for us for why would the Word say not to be unequally yoked with an unbeliever? Surely He knows the incredible importance of how the "one" we choose to marry can make or break a life. The Holy Spirit is our Guide and He will lead us daily IF we take the time to diligently seek Him.

I wonder how that view stacks up against Joseph's story in Genesis? Was Joseph seeking God when his brothers threw him into a pit? Probably was. Probably was complaining...'Well God, what was that dream all about?' The obey God and everything will come together idea is not so cut and dried.
The chains hurt Joseph's feet psalms says.
God has a way of stopping us from "obeying" what we think is His will. He stops us dead in our tracks and locks us in a prison many times. Until not a peep is heard about how "I will obey you God".....because in all our desire to obey Him, it is often for the reason of getting out of God what we want, what will make me happy, what will make me a big name....oh I will obey you God!!! Yeah yeah.....stay put in that marriage then, stay put in that job then, underpaid, under values, overlooked, day in day out......until .....yes until....

JCFantasy23 · Oct 4, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
God has perfectly planned the lives of every human being that has walked this earth. But does this also include our spouses? I'm asking this question because sometimes God's "choice f ok f us can be emotionally and physically abusive, not interested in sex... the list goes on. Are these "bad" marriages ever planned by God?

If everything were perfectly planned and we followed all this initial plan, that brings into mind the whole free will argument. Either way, I don't think we follow God's plan or idea of reasonable logic in a lot of areas - we choose unwisely, we stray, we sin. This includes marrying someone we shouldn't. God works everything for our good eventually but that doesn't mean we don't make messes of our lives when we aren't living wisely or following scriptural advice.

Christ is Lord · Oct 4, 2019

Be very careful when saying God planned the life of very human being on this earth. Affirming that will lead you having to answering a lot of tough questions from people that don’t have a high view of God or scripture.

Richard T · Oct 5, 2019

For God to perfectly match two people they would have to be in the will of God. Since there is 30, 60 and 100 fold return, or also the good, acceptable and perfect will of God, it would be difficult to really know if both parties are hitting everything in stride. Both parties also would have to remain in God's will throughout the marriage, so there always is plenty that could go wrong. Since God never forces anyone to get married, it always remains a choice. Given the divorce rate and troubled marriages of some Christians, it is not God that is off, but it is one or both of the partners. Reminds me of the often quoted statement (my paraphrase) that You can ask God to bless your path, or you can walk the path that God has already blessed.

bèlla · Oct 5, 2019

I think God’s leadership is evident as is His desire to influence our behavior. But the choice to yield and follow His instruction is ours to make.

There are areas we’ve surrendered to His direction and others we haven’t. If you’ve handed over the reins of your marital choice to Him its likely you’ll heed His suggestions above your own.

Tolworth John · Oct 5, 2019

Many divorces are for petty reasons.
Because of divorce many people marry with the idea that if it does not work out they can try again.

If divorce is not an option for you, then one does not get married quickly, but has a long period of courting to ensure that you are suited to each other.

renniks · Oct 5, 2019

Neostarwcc said:
God has perfectly planned the lives of every human being that has walked this earth. But does this also include our spouses? I'm asking this question because sometimes God's "choice f ok f us can be emotionally and physically abusive, not interested in sex... the list goes on. Are these "bad" marriages ever planned by God? Before you go to say of course not! These were just "test" marriages. I wont accept that answer because God HATES divorce. He wouldn't plan for you to get divorced he would plan on the two of you to stay together if an abusive spouse was in his plans. Yes sometimes God tests us with abuse and "bad" stuff in our lives. So surely if we get divorced we failed the test right? Is this in Gods plan? Since he planned out every aspect of our lives? Why or why not?

First you are assuming that God plans every aspect of your life.... I'm not even sure that's true. Love is a choice. I don't necessarily believe there's only one person you could be happy with, since happiness is also a choice you make. Despite a billion movies saying otherwise, no person can make you happy, that's up to you, and the only way to do it is to rely on God.

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