Like I said, go study history. Nero had Christians murdered, the Jews of Christ's day shouted crucify him, his blood upon us and our children. You have recency bias coupled with a romantic view of the past. In reality people have been engaging in vile wickedness, with the state approving or enforcing it for centuries. Communism killed 250 million during the 20th century. 100 million were killed in two wars in the first half of that century. Millions were killed during the Napoleonic wars. Henry VIII of England murdered 60,000. You're worked up over sodomite marriage and abortion and while I agree with you on this issues it is absurd to pick those two out as proof that the world today is more wicked than that of the past.
Good post. Interesting you should bring that up.
I and some others view the 1st century
OC Jews/Jewish circumcision group rulers as the Beast out of the Land [it is biblical]
[Nero and the Romans could be the Sea beast?]
The wild Beasts from the Sea and from the Land
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Those corrupt murderous Jews were indeed "beastly" and of the Devil.......
Jhn 8:44
“
Ye are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own
resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.
Jhn 19:12
From then on Pilate sought to release Him, but
the Jews cried out, saying, “If you let this Man go,
you are not Caesar's friend. Whoever makes himself a king speaks against Caesar.”
Jhn 19:15
But they cried out, “Away with
Him, away with
Him! Crucify Him!” Pilate said to them, “Shall I crucify your King?”
The chief priests answered, “
We have no king but Caesar!”
[Romans/Gentiles Beast from the Sea Revelation 13:1?]
Peter and Jude speak of them.
2Pe 2:12
But
these, like natural
brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and
will utterly perish in their own corruption,
Jde 1:10
But
these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like
brute beasts, in these things
they corrupt themselves.
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BEAST OUT OF THE LAND
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Revelation 13:11 And I saw another wild Beast ascending out of the land,
and it had two horns like a lambkin and it spoke as a Dragon.
We have discussed the first of two beasts, the beast which came up out of the
sea. By the spirit of truth we understand that that beast which combined within itself the appearance of a leopard, a bear, and a lion, which had seven heads and ten horns, is the symbol of the BESTIAL WORLD SYSTEM OF MAN.
Now we are presented with a second beast! And to prevent any misunderstanding at all, let me say from the outset that there is a definite relation between the first beast and the second beast. The full picture is just this. The second beast rises up out of the
earth.
He is less formidable in appearance. First of all, his origin is not in the depths of the stormy sea, but from the more quiet and more stable earth. He strikes you as looking like a lamb, for he has two horns like lambs’ horns, yet when he speaks, he sounds like the awful red dragon. And there is a very definite connection between these two beasts. Repeatedly this is indicated in the description John gives us. He exercises all his authority in the sight of, in the presence of, and even in behalf of the first beast. All that he does he does both in the presence of, and with the approval of, the first beast. Therefore, one of the functions of this second beast is to collaborate with and augment the agenda of the first beast. And this soon becomes apparent! For the second beast causes the inhabitants of the earth-realm to wonder after the first beast, to admire him, and to pay respect and homage (worship) to him. This second beast inspires men to construct an image of the first beast, in order to pay homage to the first beast through his image. The second beast causes all the admirers of the first beast to receive a mark which distinguishes them from those who refuse to worship this beast and his image, in order that they may be killed.
When John spoke of certain people which were of the spirit of antichrist, he did not refer to
all opposers of Christ. Instead, he referred to a certain class of people —
apostates who were teaching things contrary to the reality that is in Christ. These were not
openly against Christ, they were
professing believers and
apparent ministers of Christ! These were no longer in accord with those who abode in the truth as it is in Jesus, for John says of these antichrists,
“…even now there are many antichrists… they went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be manifest that they were not all of us” (I Jn. 2:18-19). Therefore we find that John’s use of the word “antichrist” signifies not merely one who opposes Christ, but one who sets himself up in the place of Christ, appropriating some of the attributes of Christ, but substituting error in the place of truth, and form in the place of reality. Anything that is placed
instead of Christ is literally antichrist. Have we not embraced and practiced a lot of religious attitudes, ideas, beliefs, doctrines, rituals, ceremonies, sacraments, ordinances, traditions, forms, means, and methods which have TAKEN THE PLACE OF TRUTH AND REALITY in our lives! These certainly contained bits and shades of truth and life, but they were NOT THE LIVING REALITY OF CHRIST WITHIN AT ALL! They were shadow, but not substance; form, but not essence; works, but not power. Any little form of
substitution that detracts from
His indwelling life is indeed ANTICHRIST!
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"Ye will hear of battles and rumors of battles" 1st century concluding in Judea/Jerusalem 70ad
Matthew 24:
6 “And you will hear of
battles and rumors of battles. See that you are not troubled;
for all these things must come to pass,
but the end is not yet.
7 “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places.
8 “All these are the beginning of sorrows.”
Mark 13:
7 “But when you hear of
battles and rumors of battles, do not be troubled;
for such things must happen,
but the end is not yet.
8 “For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
And there will be earthquakes in various places, and there will be famines and troubles.
These are the beginnings of sorrows.”
Luke 21:
9 “But when you hear of
battles and commotions/tumults, do not be terrified;
for these things must come to pass first,
but the end is not immediate.”
10 Then He said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.
11 “And there will be great earthquakes in various places, and famines and pestilences;
and there will be fearful sights and great signs from heaven.”
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CAST OF CHARACTERS:
Roman: Emperor Nero |
General Vespasian |
General Titus | The Roman Army || Jewish: General / Historian Josephus |
Factional Leaders in Jerusalem ||
Administrators of Roman Judea Targets:
Jerusalem |
Herod's Temple // Maps of the Roman Invasion // Theological Timeline
CHRONOLOGY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE WAR
Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62
Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66
Stage 3: The Campaign of Cestius Gallus and the Defeat of the Twelfth Legion: October-November 66
Stage 4: End of Collaborative Government, Priesthood ; General Flight: November 66 - March 67
Part 6: Vespasian Subdues Northern and Western Palestine: December 66 - December 68
Part 7: Three-way Power Struggle within Jerusalem After Roman Retreat: January 68 - May 70
Part 8: Romans Breach City Walls and Leave Jerusalem Desolate: May 10 - September 10, 70
