The New American Bible and lectionary are ugly and dispiriting. Please your excellencies, put them..

Michie · Sep 27, 2019

...to death

*You are in the Catholic forum*

I'd like, in a few essays, to characterize the blunders our translators have made, to show you why the NAB and the current lectionary ought to be sent to the netherworld, and their names be know no more. The first category is this: Turning the palpable and visible into abstraction. We are wrong to suppose that poets turn everything into vague symbols...

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https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2019/09/25/our-sophisticated-bible-translators/

anna ~ grace · Sep 27, 2019

What, in your opinion, would be a good, solid, reverent, readable Bible translation, Michie? I tend to hear good things about the Catholic RSV.

Michie · Sep 27, 2019

I have several that I use and I would have to dig them all out to see what all I have. My two standouts are The New Jerusalam Bible. (Mother Angelica used one). The other I tend to go to is Saint Jerome Study Bible.

I was actually gifted a NAB before entering the Church officially. I still have it but I rarely use it.

Dave-W · Sep 27, 2019

I actually like the NAB. I have had one since the early 1970s, and the current one does read differently. (lost the first in a flooded basement)

My main go-to trans is the NASB and the New KJV. But I will also consult the NAB when looking for a more historic take on a passage. (same reason I also have a couple traditional Jewish trans of the OT) I do find the commentary informative. And if I need to look something up in the Deuterocannonical books - the NAB has it.

chevyontheriver · Sep 27, 2019

Gracia Singh said:
What, in your opinion, would be a good, solid, reverent, readable Bible translation, Michie? I tend to hear good things about the Catholic RSV.

That's become my go to version.

John P. Alexander · Sep 27, 2019

You guys may also find the Orthodox Study Bible acceptable.

thecolorsblend · Sep 27, 2019

Gracia Singh said:
What, in your opinion, would be a good, solid, reverent, readable Bible translation, Michie? I tend to hear good things about the Catholic RSV.

My old FSSP priest swears by the Douay-Rheims. What I've read of that translation is quite good. It's basically the same type of English as KJV.

Michie · Sep 27, 2019

What translation of the Bible did everyone read first?? Mine as a little protestant girl was the Good News Bible.

John P. Alexander · Sep 27, 2019

Michie said:
What translation of the Bible did everyone read first?? Mine as a little protestant girl was the Good News Bible.

Years ago, coming to faith, it was the KJV. Back then I thought that was the only Bible. I wasn't aware of any other translations. ^_^

So much struggle for so long for no reason. :swoon:

thecolorsblend · Sep 27, 2019

Michie said:
What translation of the Bible did everyone read first?? Mine as a little protestant girl was the Good News Bible.

I forget the translation's name but it was a Protestant Bible for students. It was interspersed with brief commentaries and (supposedly real) anecdotes by other teenagers.

As translations go, what I remember of that one is that it was sadly wanting. It was a really try-hard translation that really attempted to sound and look like "What the kids want" and it was just bad. One example is Romans 13:4, where St. Paul writes about the power of government and God's purpose in setting up governing authorities in the world.

For princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good: and thou shalt have praise from the same.

For he is God's minister to thee, for good. But if thou do that which is evil, fear: for he beareth not the sword in vain. For he is God's minister: an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil.
Romans 3:3-15 (DRA)

But that "teen translation" substituted "princes" with "policeman", "sword" with "his weapons", etc. It was a hilariously awful translation.

Michie · Sep 27, 2019

I'm sorry.

but that's just really super funny.

thecolorsblend said:
I forget the translation's name but it was a Protestant Bible for students. It was interspersed with brief commentaries and (supposedly real) anecdotes by other teenagers.

As translations go, what I remember of that one is that it was sadly wanting. It was a really try-hard translation that really tried sound and look like "What the kids want" and it was just bad. A good example is Romans 13:4, where St. Paul writes about the power of government and God's purpose in setting up governing authorities in the world.

For princes are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? Do that which is good: and thou shalt have praise from the same.

For he is God's minister to thee, for good. But if thou do that which is evil, fear: for he beareth not the sword in vain. For he is God's minister: an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil.
Romans 3:3-15 (DRA)

But that "teen translation" substituted "princes" with "police", "sword" with "his weapons", etc. It was a hilariously awful translation.

anna ~ grace · Sep 27, 2019

Michie said:
What translation of the Bible did everyone read first?? Mine as a little protestant girl was the Good News Bible.

NIV for me. I had a weird, biased revulsion towards the KJV till I grew in faith, then tried the NKJV, then then KJV. Still searching for a good Catholic Bible. Right now I use the EWTN site for daily readings, and whatever they use on there looks really good.

anna ~ grace · Sep 27, 2019

thecolorsblend · Sep 27, 2019

Gracia Singh said:
NIV for me. I had a weird, biased revulsion towards the KJV till I grew in faith, then tried the NKJV, then then KJV. Still searching for a good Catholic Bible. Right now I use the EWTN site for daily readings, and whatever they use on there looks really good.

It's a weird thing but my memory verses are all KJV. You can take the boy out of Protestantism but you can't always take the Protestantism out of the boy. KJV isn't bad by any means. But I do think it's a bit overrated. And not always terribly accurate. The KJV team would be the first to acknowledge that their KJV isn't perfect though.

For the daily readings, I use the Laudate app on my phone. I also use it in Mass quite a lot. This has earned me icy daggers from Baby Boomers who think I'm texting in the middle of the readings rather than following along on my app. I'm sure I had a reason for writing this paragraph but I don't remember what it is now.

In terms of a Bible, I think you might find DRA to be the most comparable to KJV. You can read the DRA on biblegateway.com. It's a quality translation and is obviously produced by the Catholic Church.

Lady Bug · Sep 27, 2019

Michie said:
What translation of the Bible did everyone read first?? Mine as a little protestant girl was the Good News Bible.

ESV but then I eventually got hooked on the KJV. I really love its prose but since it's Protestant I feel I shouldn't continue it. I recently obtained a Douay Rheims because it looks like the fraternal twin of the KJV. The only thing bothering me is that I've never read the entire Bible with only one translation. I'm not sure that'll ever happen for me because I will take literally years to finish the Bible. That discourages me...

anna ~ grace · Sep 27, 2019

Lady Bug said:
ESV but then I eventually got hooked on the KJV. I really love its prose but since it's Protestant I feel I shouldn't continue it. I recently obtained a Douay Rheims because it looks like the fraternal twin of the KJV. The only thing bothering me is that I've never read the entire Bible with only one translation. I'm not sure that'll ever happen for me because I will take literally years to finish the Bible. That discourages me...

Don't be discouraged! You can go one chapter a day, chronologically, or get daily readings via apps, and websites.

thecolorsblend said:
It's a weird thing but my memory verses are all KJV. You can take the boy out of Protestantism but you can't always take the Protestantism out of the boy. KJV isn't bad by any means. But I do think it's a bit overrated. And not always terribly accurate. The KJV team would be the first to acknowledge that their KJV isn't perfect though.

For the daily readings, I use the Laudate app on my phone. I also use it in Mass quite a lot. This has earned me icy daggers from Baby Boomers who think I'm texting in the middle of the readings rather than following along on my app. I'm sure I had a reason for writing this paragraph but I don't remember what it is now.

In terms of a Bible, I think you might find DRA to be the most comparable to KJV. You can read the DRA on biblegateway.com. It's a quality translation and is obviously produced by the Catholic Church.

Thanks, Colors! I'll check it out! I do like the KJV. My memory verses are all in KJV, too. They did an awesome job of making the language flow.

Rhamiel · Sep 27, 2019

Michie said:
What translation of the Bible did everyone read first?? Mine as a little protestant girl was the Good News Bible.

An NAB Bible was my present for First Communion
By the time I was 17 or so I had a problem with how some of the footnotes were very dismissive of the plain reading of the narrative
I think I got a Douay Rheims when I was around 24 or 25

Lady Bug · Sep 28, 2019

Gracia Singh said:
Don't be discouraged! You can go one chapter a day, chronologically, or get daily readings via apps, and websites.

lol I can take a week to get a chapter done if it's a long one

then I start writing down notes (I tend to do this only for the OT though), and that makes me impossible for me to do one chapter a day lol...that's what makes this hard...

anna ~ grace · Sep 28, 2019

Lady Bug said:
lol I can take a week to get a chapter done if it's a long one then I start writing down notes (I tend to do this only for the OT though), and that makes me impossible for me to do one chapter a day lol...that's what makes this hard...

Just do as much as you can. You can also take time out to sit down with the daily readings and pour over them slowly and prayerfully. That my help, too!

Lady Bug · Sep 28, 2019

Gracia Singh said:
Just do as much as you can. You can also take time out to sit down with the daily readings and pour over them slowly and prayerfully. That my help, too!

lol I have an app with those daily readings lol.

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