The Bible IS a scientific source and no one can refute the agreement I have shown with Science from Genesis...including you. Want to try again?
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The Bible IS a scientific source and no one can refute the agreement I have shown with Science from Genesis...including you. Want to try again?
Sure they did. Do you think that the 450 ft Ark landed on top of a 16k ft high mountain? and stayed in the snow for 7 months?
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Sure. Here it is. Can you explain?
1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016
2. Genesis 2:4 shows that the big bang was on the 3rd Day and Genesis 1:16 shows that it was the 4th Day before the first Stars were made. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...-born-big-bang Feb 28, 2018 - The first stars lit the cosmos by 180 million years after the Big Bang,
3. Chromosone 2 fusion shows that Adam, the first Human was first made, long before plants, herbs, rain, trees, or any prehistoric person. Genesis 2:4-7
4. Genesis 6:4 shows HOW to make a modern Human by mixing the sons of God (prehistoric people) with Humans (Adam's descendants). This is so successful that we now have some 7.7 Billion living Humans (descendants of Adam) on planet Earth. In the last 10k years, we have gone from some 1 million prehistoric people to the soon to be 10 Billion living Humans.
5. Genesis 1:1 correctly shows that Water was not created but came forth from Heaven or air.
That's God's irrefutable Truth.
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I'm sorry, but there is no mention of the third day here at all.
Genesis 2
1.Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
4 This is the a]">[a]history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
No mention of man being made on the third day and no mention of 13.8 Billion years. You are trying to marry together evolution and creation. The Bible never mentions billions let alone millions of years.
We all know there are some slight differences between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. Genesis 1 specifically says what was made when.
Genesis one
Day 1
3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light.
5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. b]">[b]So the evening and the morning were the first day.
Day 2
6 Then God said, “Let there be a c]">[c]firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.”
8 And God called the firmament Heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day.
Day 3
9 Then God said, “Let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place, and let the dry land appear”; and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit, whose seed is in itself according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 So the evening and the morning were the third day.
Day 4
16 Then God made two great d]">[d]lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.
19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Day 5
20 Then God said, “Let the waters abound with an abundance of living e]">[e]creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the f]">[f]firmament of the heavens.”
23 So the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Day 6
24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so.
26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over g]">[g]all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Then we move onto Genesis 2
Which starts by reaffirming that the creation took place over 6 days.
Then it says
5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
In verse 5 it simply talks about the land before plants and man were created. This is where we learn that God used a mist to water the ground rather than rain.
If we want to see the exact order of creation we go back to Genesis 1. There we are told very plainly that plants were created before man.
Genesis 1 focuses on the physical events while Genesis 2, on the spiritual events. Not only is the style of writing different but the first chapter refers to God as Elohim while Chapter 2 uses Yahweh-Elohim which is more personal. This account is more at a chatting level, a summing up of the whole picture, rather than a step by step account of everything. Then it focuses in on how man was created, the garden and the relationship between God and man.
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I already did.
Rom 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
Death came about because of Adam's sin.
God also said
genesis 3
22 Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”
Before this they were to live forever.
It was subject to death and disease only when God said it was after the fall. It's all there in Genesis 3.
That is the only thign we agree on.
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First evidence of farming in Mideast 23,000 years ago: Evidence of earliest small-scale agricultural cultivation
I know you've been shown this before. Denying it would be a lie.
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No I don't. But my personal beliefs are irrelevant. The evidence we have says that your assertions are incorrect.
You have been shown that evidence multiple times, haven't you?
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Nothing in the article you linked to provided any support for this:
1. Genesis 1:21 shows that every living creature that moveth was made from water on the 5th Day. Science recently discovered the same. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/26/s...-ancestor.html Jul 25, 2016
Fail.
What I 'believe in' is immaterial.
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So no actual proof. Just an assertion that your interpretation of scripture is the correct one.
Do you still not understand that assertions are not proofs? Did you not receive a proper education in vocabulary, logic and rhetoric? Something must explain your singular inability to understand that simple fact. I'll repeat it for your convenience. Assertions, such as the ones you make here, do not constitute proofs.
So, do you have any actual proof?
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Of course not since this event is in the FUTURE on the 7th Day, which is Eternity, since it has NO ending.
See my bolding of your post and you should see the 3rd Day is when Adam was made, BEFORE the plants, herbs and Trees, which all GREW on the 3rd Day. Genesis 1:12
Amen, and the Son of God came into the physical world and God the Trinity called Him YHWH who came to Earth as the man, Jesus Christ. In order to agree with Scripture, Jesus MUST have the preeminence or FIRST place.
Col 1:18 And He is the head of the body, the church: Who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in ALL things He might have the preeminence.
Adam's firmament, which God called Heaven was made the 2nd Day. Genesis 1:8
The plants herbs and trees grew on the 3rd Day. BUT before that happened, Jesus made Adam from the dust and breathed life into Adam. Later on the SAME Day/Age Jesus causes the big bang of our cosmos. Genesis 2:4
Amen and Science AGREES that it was 180 Million years AFTER the big bang on the 3rd Day BEFORE the first Stars appeared on the 4th Day/Age. Do you still agree with the theology of ancient men?
www.astronomy.com › news › 2018/03 › fingerprinting-the-very-first-stars
"every living creature that moveth" is what the KJV states. This included the sons of God (prehistoric people) who numbered some 1 Million when the Ark arrived, bringing the FIRST Humans (descendants of Adam) to this Earth.
You forgot the His and Their statements which reveals the altered nature of your version of Scripture. Unless you want to be taught by men, find an older version of Scripture which has NOT been altered and changed like your version has.
This is FUTURE since mankind has NEVER had dominion/rule over mosquitoes, viruses and Angels, as we will have AFTER Jesus returns at Armageddon.
This is FUTURE since the perfect God would NEVER declare that everything was good/perfect until it is finished or brought to perfection at the end of the present 6th Day/Age in the creation of the perfect Heaven. Genesis 2:1 continued.....
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Not quite since Genesis 2 affirms that God works on His creation of the perfect heaven in 6 of His Days, and filling it with perfect people. Today is the Day of Salvation according to Jesus. 2Co 6:2 The present 6th Day will NOT end until ALL Christians (host of Heaven) are safely in Heaven and God's work is finished (Hebrew-brought to perfection) which is the end of ALL of God's work of Creation.
in order to understand Scripture you MUST know that the FIRST 34 verses of Genesis tell the complete HISTORY of God's creation and His creation ends at Genesis 2:3 when God rests or ceases from ALL of His creation because it has finally been brought to perfection. Genesis 2:4-Revelation 22 (ADDS DETAILS) of the 7 Days of Creation. God gave us an outline of His creation in the first 34 verses and then added details to those 7 Days/Ages in the entirety of the rest of the Bible.
Elohim is the invisible Spirit of God, is a plural word, and speaks of The Trinity or THEIR kind. YHWH is the physical image of God who emptied Himself of His physical Image as God (His kind) and came to Earth as the man Jesus.
Phl 2:5 ¶ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phl 2:7 But made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Phl 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Phl 2:9 Wherefore God (The Trinity) also hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every name: Phl 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; Phl 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, (Lord God) to the glory of God the Father.
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NOT according to the verse you posted. Death came upon all men (Hebrew-Adam). Before Adam's sin, mankind was designed to live forever. When he sinned, death came to God's Special Creation, (Humans), since ALL of Adam's descendants sin. The only way to avoid death is to be born again Spiritually by God the Trinity. Amen?
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What it demonstrates is that you will believe anything "so called" scientists proclaim. From the site:
"While full-scale agriculture did not develop until much later, our study shows that trial cultivation began far earlier than previously believed, and gives us reason to rethink our ancestors' capabilities," said Prof. Sternberg. "Those early ancestors were more clever and more skilled than we knew."
Ask the Professor HOW he distinguished between the sons of God (prehistoric mankind) and Humans (descendants of Adam). He obviously does not know the difference and wherever prehistoric man lived for a while, and weeds grew, is an incomplete and probably grant based conclusion. Try again?
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