Is Joe Biden running in 2020 for President?

joshua 1 9 said:

People are always trying to dig up dirt on him. If that is the worst they can find on him then he must be a pretty good guy. He is good for the economy and in all the other areas he is trying to do damage control. Which means he is trying not do to much damage.

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....the worst they can find? You mean the Inspector General, who, apparently, has some sense of ethics. I have yet to find the ethical boundary of Trump supporters. All I hear is deflection.

The Biden family's actions have been investigated by the FBI AND the Ukranian government. Trump's suspicions (and now accusations) were 110% groundless!

VP Biden recommended the firing of a Ukranian prosecutor was corrupt. Guess what? The prosecutor WAS corrupt. The DOJ said he did the RIGHT thing.

Given Trump's lies to truths ratio (about 12,000 to 1, or perhaps 12,000 to zero...) when Trump says something I automatically believe the opposite to be true. I guess I was right again.

ToBeLoved said:

Voter fraud needs to be cleaned up and taken care of first.

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Donald's commission on voter fraud already fixed it.

I mean, there's no way one of Donald's plan would have failed, and they finished up their work, so mission accomplished!

dogs4thewin said:

so do not vote?

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Yeah, that's kinda the conclusion I'm coming to, now that Ross Perot has died and I can't write him in any more . But seriously, I think the time is better spent praying, since we're not going to be able to vote ourselves off this path the world is on.

ToBeLoved said:

Voter fraud needs to be cleaned up and taken care of first.

Only citizens should be voting.

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Only INFORMED citizens should be voting.

joshua 1 9 said:

None of this stuff ever amounts to anything.
I do not even pay attention to it anymore.
It is a waste of time.

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When the IG of our intelligences services indicates there is an urgent need to review a whistleblower complaint, I think that does warrant our attention.

joshua 1 9 said:

It is Joe Biden and his son that are under investigation here, not Trump. You need to get the program so you know who the players are.

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The Bidens are not under investigation.
A whistleblower raised a complaint.
The AG reviewed and recommended further attention by the Congress.
The DNI squashed that review - most likely at Trump's direction.

By law the Trump and the DNI need to honor the Whistleblower process.

That is the program.

Any decent nominee stands a chance against trump. If dandy don keeps self imploding, my dog may stand a chance.

Lastly, it wont be biden winning the nomination for the democrats.

joshua 1 9 said:

It is Joe Biden and his son that are under investigation here, not Trump. You need to get the program so you know who the players are.

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That seems true enough. If the Democrats in the House want to make this Ukraine issue be this month's reason for impeaching the president, it necessarily means that Biden's dirty laundry will be on full display.

I kinda thought that Pelosi and Co. would have switched to something else in order to shield Biden from being put in that spotlight.

joshua 1 9 said:

That is a conflict of interest.

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How so?

joshua 1 9 said:

Trump was personally doing an investigation. That is why the liberals are so upset with him. Joe Biden's son was on the payroll of a Ukraine company. He does not even dispute being on their payroll. That is a conflict of interest.

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It may not even be that involved. Pelosi stated today that the reason for the impeachment proceedings was to keep Trump from being re-elected! It's just that simple. And shameful.

joshua 1 9 said:

Trump was personally doing an investigation. That is why the liberals are so upset with him. Joe Biden's son was on the payroll of a Ukraine company. He does not even dispute being on their payroll. That is a conflict of interest.

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In the abstract, do you believe it is appropriate for the POTUS to ask (and perhaps coerce) a foreign head of government to investigate his political opponent?

Albion said:

It may not even be that involved. Pelosi stated today that the reason for the impeachment proceedings was to keep Trump from being re-elected! It's just that simple. And shameful.

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Citation of Pelosi's statement?

bhsmte said:

Any decent nominee stands a chance against trump. If dandy don keeps self imploding, my dog may stand a chance.

Lastly, it wont be biden winning the nomination for the democrats.

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That's what I think too. I don't think Biden would have ever been the Dem nominee. Dems seem to have been turning their attention towards Warren and Sanders since the last debate. Trump broke the law again.. to go after the wrong person.

Petunia said:

That's what I think too. I don't think Biden would have ever been the Dem nominee. Dems seem to have been turning their attention towards Warren and Sanders since the last debate.

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Maybe Warren, not Sanders. And as for Biden, now that his scheming in Ukraine is coming to light, he's done. In fact, you have to wonder if that wasn't part of the Dems' planning--to get Biden out of the way while acting like the idea was to be investigating Trump.

joshua 1 9 said:

If it is fair to investigate Trump then it is fair to investigate Biden.

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I'd be happy to investigate Biden for ordering his White House to illegally withhold a whistleblower complaint about his attempts to blackmail a foreign government for dirt on a political opponent.

Oh, wait, that seems to be a bit problematic, what with reality being what it is and all.