11-year-old girl charged with a hate crime after police say she beat up a 10-year-old

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11-year-old girl charged with a hate crime after police say she beat up a 10-year-old
An 11-year-old white girl is charged with a hate crime after a 10-year-old African-American girl was subjected to "racially motivated language" and a black eye, police said Monday.

Three girls were involved in the assault on a school bus in Gouverneur, New York, about 100 miles north of Syracuse, CNN affiliate WWNY reported. Two of the girls are white, and the victim is African-American, police said.

The victim's parents reported the incident to police on September 10. They said their daughter had a black eye, some of her hair had been pulled out and her knee was bruised after falling into the school bus seat, Gouverneur police said.

At such a young age, she likely has picked up this hatred from family and/or friends. However, as a juvenile, counseling and reconciliation seems like the way forward. To beat another child up until they have a black eye is horrible, but I believe it is never too late for children.
 

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At such a young age, she likely has picked up this hatred from family and/or friends. However, as a juvenile, counseling and reconciliation seems like the way forward. To beat another child up until they have a black eye is horrible, but I believe it is never too late for children.

It may be too late for many adults, and children also, to realize that the politically correct term "hate crime" is leading people away from Truth, away from Jesus, away from God,
and thus this is having the desired effect (of those who came up with it and are promoting it) of trying to prevent people from seeking and from finding His Kingdom.
 
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Everything is a "hate" crime these days. The word is all but meaningless.
Hitting someone while making racially motivated statements is pretty much the definition of a hate crime.

Assuming this is handled well by a juvenile authority that's interested in helping, it's appropriate to recognize what really happened. Unfortunately that kind of wisdom is not always the case.
 
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Everything is a "hate" crime these days. The word is all but meaningless.
Calling someone racist names and then physically assaulting them is clearly a hate crime, so I'm not sure what the point of this comment is. It seems like you're downplaying this incident.

That said, the two little girls who perpetrated this attack would have learned such nasty racism and violence in their homes. Child Protective Services needs to be involved. While what the two little girls did was horrible, the charges are ridiculous and unnecessary given that the parents bare almost all of the responsibility. They need counseling, not handcuffs. However, it is refreshing to see bullying being taken so seriously.
 
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11-year-old girl charged with a hate crime after police say she beat up a 10-year-old


At such a young age, she likely has picked up this hatred from family and/or friends. However, as a juvenile, counseling and reconciliation seems like the way forward. To beat another child up until they have a black eye is horrible, but I believe it is never too late for children.

100 miles north of Syracuse? Would that not be in the catskills? I thought that area was pretty much wilderness. Anyway, I agree, it probably came from mom, and dad. 11 years old is a bit young for the Juvenile Justice System, depending on what they did of course. We gave each other black eye's in school, in my day we were expected to handle our business when we had problems with other students. Teachers, principles, cops, parents, generally didn't want to hear about school yard problems, fathers just said "you know what you have to do" which meant a beat down, and if you were unable to take care of that by yourself, then either your friends helped you, or, you brought an equalizer. This was essentially the same mentality the Navy had during my career.

Simpler solution for a simpler time.
 
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11 years old is a bit young for the Juvenile Justice System, depending on what they did of course. We gave each other black eye's in school, in my day we were expected to handle our business when we had problems with other students. Teachers, principles, cops, parents, gene just said "you know what you have to do" which meant a beat down
But if the parents are the source of the hate, leaving it to them isn't likely to help. And beating the kid isn't likely to help them accept people who are different.

Again, we have to make assumptions about the juvenile authorities. If they're good, they probably have more chance to make a difference than the parents left to themselves.
 
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100 miles north of Syracuse? Would that not be in the catskills? I thought that area was pretty much wilderness. Anyway, I agree, it probably came from mom, and dad. 11 years old is a bit young for the Juvenile Justice System, depending on what they did of course. We gave each other black eye's in school, in my day we were expected to handle our business when we had problems with other students. Teachers, principles, cops, parents, generally didn't want to hear about school yard problems, fathers just said "you know what you have to do" which meant a beat down, and if you were unable to take care of that by yourself, then either your friends helped you, or, you brought an equalizer. This was essentially the same mentality the Navy had during my career.

Simpler solution for a simpler time.
Teachers, principles, cops, parents, generally didn't want to hear about school yard problems

Which was and still remains reckless and irresponsible. Kids get bullied into suicide. It needs to addressed strongly and the perpetrators need to have an example made out of them. Thankfully we've evolved into a society that at least takes these things a little more seriously.

if you were unable to take care of that by yourself, then either your friends helped you, or, you brought an equalizer

Thankfully we live in the 21st century where jumping people with your friends is not condoned and seriously punished.

As for the "equalizer", kids are bringing that to school when police and teachers aren't addressing a poor home life and parents, police, and teachers aren't addressing bullying. It's called a gun, and kids are being mowed down in our schools regularly. It's terrible.

This machismo, toxic behavior has no place in our society.
 
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Actually, I think in many cases we should let kids learn how to solve their own problems. At the point where someone gets beat up, though, they could use some help. I'd prefer it to be actual help, and not just punishing people.
 
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100 miles north of Syracuse? Would that not be in the catskills?
No, it would not be in the Catskills. There Catskills are East/South East of Syracuse (more between Albany and NYC). 100 miles north of Syracuse is pretty much..... Nothing. And the Canadian border.
 
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No, it would not be in the Catskills. There Catskills are East/South East of Syracuse (more between Albany and NYC). 100 miles north of Syracuse is pretty much..... Nothing. And the Canadian border.

So maybe the Watertown area, I went to a wedding in a small town in upstate MY called "Adams Center" it seemed way North of Syracuse, I think they called it the "Thousand Islands area?"

Anyway, thank you for the information.
 
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It may be too late for many adults, and children also, to realize that the politically correct term "hate crime" is leading people away from Truth, away from Jesus, away from God,
and thus this is having the desired effect (of those who came up with it and are promoting it) of trying to prevent people from seeking and from finding His Kingdom.

I have no real idea what you are trying to say.
 
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Everything is a "hate" crime these days. The word is all but meaningless.

It shouldn't be meaningless...however, it's become that way due to inconsistent enforcement.

The FBI even admitted to it.

The FBI's hate crimes statistics for 1993, which similarly reported 20% of all hate crimes to be committed against white people, prompted Jill Tregor, assistant regional FBI director, to decry it as "an abuse of what the hate crime laws were intended to cover", stating that the white victims of these crimes were employing hate crime laws as a means to further penalize minorities.

In a nutshell "These laws were supposed to give us a means to add additional penalties for hate crimes when white people do it, however, when people do it against whites, it's just a means to further penalize them"

...which is a shame, because if consistently enforced, they'd be a great way to send the message that "baseless hate has no place in our country". However, with the way they're (admittedly) enforced by the FBI, they're used as a means to over penalize certain groups in an attempt to make up for past wrongs.
 
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Everything is a "hate" crime these days. The word is all but meaningless.
"EVERYTHING"???? What are you talking about???? That's ridiculous.
 
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it's only news if a white person beats up a black. they are children. but the girl's life will be ruined by the media now.
How will the girl's life be ruined by the media?

And saying "it's only news if a white person beats up a black" is a ridiculous and racist thing to say.
 
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It may be too late for many adults, and children also, to realize that the politically correct term "hate crime" is leading people away from Truth, away from Jesus, away from God,
and thus this is having the desired effect (of those who came up with it and are promoting it) of trying to prevent people from seeking and from finding His Kingdom.
One day the Bible will be called hate speech. It has happened in Australia. So far, it is not illegal to quote the Bible, but it sure could lose you your job. Global warming is not due to physical causes. It is God trying to get our attention. So far, so bad.
 
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100 miles north of Syracuse? Would that not be in the catskills? I thought that area was pretty much wilderness. Anyway, I agree, it probably came from mom, and dad. 11 years old is a bit young for the Juvenile Justice System, depending on what they did of course. We gave each other black eye's in school, in my day we were expected to handle our business when we had problems with other students. Teachers, principles, cops, parents, generally didn't want to hear about school yard problems, fathers just said "you know what you have to do" which meant a beat down, and if you were unable to take care of that by yourself, then either your friends helped you, or, you brought an equalizer. This was essentially the same mentality the Navy had during my career.

Simpler solution for a simpler time.
What kind of backwards prison did you grow up in? That's not how it was when I was a kid - thank God I grew up in civilization.

And by the way, that Catskills are well south and east of Syracuse. North of Syracuse is Watertown and Thousand Islands, which are on the Canadian border.
 
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