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But your placing yourself as representing God and women as representing evil if that analogy is to be followed to it’s conclusion.

The Bible says it.

The Bible is inspired Word of God.

God says it.

Not me.
 
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@Paidiske position is not our concern or the topic of this thread. That is between her and God.

The subject of women in the church and their appropriate role is always a topic of debate. We have bigger fish to fry. Focusing on long held differences won’t enable us to attain victory where its lacking.

If you want to debate the issue start a thread.
 
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But your placing men as representing God and women as representing evil if that analogy is to be followed to it’s conclusion.

Read 1 Timothy chapter 2, then decide.
 
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@Paidiske position is not our concern or the topic of this thread. That is between her and God.

The subject of women in the church and their appropriate role is always a topic of debate. We have bigger fish to fry. Focusing on long held differences won’t enable us to attain victory where its lacking.

If you want to debate the issue start a thread.

Women in the ministry is a big fish; a 'whale' of a fish. Much too big to sweep under the rug (that would take a pretty big rug, not to mention a really big broom). ;)
 
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Men dont like to be challenged by women. It makes them feel... Disenfranchised and it makes them mad. Lol. It's so painfully poisonous but I am starting to believe that those liberals speaking about the evils of the patriarchy are right. Don't worry I hate both sides equally. There are pros and cons to most things. There are many potential facets of reality that may be.

I will obey God when I understand him otherwise I cannot possibly obey him if I lack understanding. God has to make me understand or I cannot believe him.
 
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Men dont like to be challenged by women. It makes them feel... Disenfranchised and it makes them mad. Lol. It's so painfully poisonous but I am starting to believe that those liberals speaking about the evils of the patriarchy are right. Don't worry I hate both sides equally. There are pros and cons to most things. There are many potential facets of reality that may be.

I will obey God when I understand him otherwise I cannot possibly obey him if I lack understanding. God has to make me understand or I cannot believe him.

Men, especially younger men, generally have fragile egos, therefore women take some risk challenging them, especially over something that they feel is in their wheelhouse.
 
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The law says it so you follow the law. Gotcha

It is a judgment made by Paul in 1 Tim 2, with the historical reason given. There are other scriptures that support it as well going back to the creation of Eve.
 
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Women in the ministry is a big fish; a 'whale' of a fish. Much too big to sweep under the rug (that would take a pretty big rug, not to mention a really big broom). ;)

Belief is never an excuse for an absence of decorum or kindness. It has been my observation through time and constancy that @Paidiske exhibits the mindset and fruit of someone who enjoys her work and is wholly committed.

It is unlikely a consensus will be reached on the subject. But at the very least I would hope our perspectives wouldn’t bring us to a point of disrespect and mistreatment.

There are many things we don’t understand and a myriad of ways God has worked through our weaknesses and society’s to bring His purposes to pass.
 
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Belief is never an excuse for an absence of decorum or kindness. It has been my observation through time and constancy that @Paidiske exhibits the mindset and fruit of someone who enjoys her work and is wholly committed.

It is unlikely a consensus will be reached on the subject. But at the very least I would hope our perspectives wouldn’t bring us to a point of disrespect and mistreatment.

There are many things we don’t understand and a myriad of ways God has worked through our weaknesses and society’s to bring His purposes to pass.

Please don't mistake my metaphors for disrespect.
 
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It is a judgment made by Paul in 1 Tim 2, with the historical reason given. There are other scriptures that support it as well going back to the creation of Eve.
Pharisaic law is the reason, only understandable in the principle “Be still and know who is God”
Male made before female showing headship can only conclude that the animals created before male means what? Or is that translated differently somehow?
Adam is male and female. Eve was not named until after the fall. Mother of all living. The first Adam is replaced with Christ and the church. But evidently you think it means you and your wife.
 
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Read 1 Timothy chapter 2, then decide.
Is that the verses that say spouse of one and then reinforces it with an ‘just as’ to appendix it with? But the Op has requested off topic to remain off topic, so I’m happy to comply.
 
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Men and women are made for each other. There is little mystery as to why some males feel disenfranchised and angry. We incel types have flaws that make us unattractive. Anxiety. Displays of low status. Sometimes we can even get mad when a woman is attracted to us because we sometimes hate ourselves and don't understand any other kind of reaction of a woman besides rejection. Besides once the woman actually gets to know us it is probably likely that she will not like us anymore. We would not know what to do with her anyways.

We incels are Failed males, plain and simple. It often doesn't matter if we do succeed in some ways either.
 
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Men and women are made for each other. There is little mystery as to why some males feel disenfranchised and angry. We incel types have flaws that make us unattractive. Anxiety. Displays of low status. Sometimes we can even get mad when a woman is attracted to us because we sometimes hate ourselves and don't understand any other kind of reaction of a woman besides rejection. Besides once the woman actually gets to know us it is probably likely that she will not like us anymore. We would not know what to do with her anyways.

We incels are Failed males, plain and simple. It often doesn't matter if we do succeed in some ways either.
Could we get that in biblical terms please ...
 
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When women talk about theology it sounds different because of male and female connotations. Anyway Notox, I’m sure you could give an extremely defined biblical analogy of what you just said. There’s blocks between male >female but not so much female>male.
 
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