LDS How to Become a God

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The Biblical Meaning of the “Firstborn”. “Firstborn” may also mean the greatest or least of individuals or even things. Above all, “firstborn” can refer to several aspects of the nature and role of Jesus Christ – and our identity with the One who is the ultimate firstborn.
Reference: www.livingwithfaith.org/blog/the-biblical-meaning-of-the-firstborn

Jesus is the top of the food chain, the firstborn heir of all that is firstborn, He is the meaning of being Number One--His is the EXPRESS IMAGE--of God.
The word "express" (charackter) means the very stamp, mark, and impression—the very reproduction of God. Jesus Christ is the perfect imprint and very image of God’s nature. The word "image" (hypostasis) means substance. Not only is Jesus Christ’s God’s spokesman, He is God Himself—the full revelation and complete embodiment of God!
arious versions translate it in different ways: “the very image of his substance” (ASV), “an exact representation of his very being” (Rhm), “flawless expression of the nature of God” (Phillips), “stamped with God's own character” (Moffat), “the copy of his being” (Beck), “the exact representation of God's nature” (Swindoll), “the exact expression of God's nature” (Stibbs), “the impress of the Divine Nature” (F.B. Meyer), and “the exact expression of God's very essence” (Barclay). This wide assortment of translations derives from two key Greek words in this title. The, first of these is the word character, which is closely related to the verb charasso, meaning “to cut, to scratch, or to mark.” Originally this word referred to a marking agent, such as a die, and then later to the impression made by the marking agent. It is similar to the English word “stamp,” which first referred to the instrument which printed the impression and later to the impression itself. It suggests the idea of an exact representation of the person or the person himself-that is, the distinguishing features or traits by which a person or thing is known (cf. the English word “characteristics”).
The Image Of God

He is not a cookie cutter image of God---one of many--His is God. The very same as God. We are made in His image, Jesus is the very same, exact God. Father, Son, Holy Spirit---One God, the same.
You cannot have it both ways. Either Jesus is an exact replica of God, or the very image of His substance, or an exact representation of His very being.
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Jesus is God and someone else is His exact replica or very image of His substance, or an exact representation of His being.

You cannot be both. A replica of the original, cannot be the original.
 
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NO, we would all continue to worship God the Father, His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost for all eternity.

And Heavenly Mom ? What about her?
 
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No, not at this time:

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Heb 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

This is said to the Son:

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Heb 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Heb 1:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;
Heb 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail.

Who is saying this to the Son? God the Father, Jesus's God and Father (John 20:17).

So you have God the Father who is one God saying to his Son: Thy throne, Oh God (a second God), is for ever and ever.... IOW They are both Gods, just like JS said.
 
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Jesus is the one and only completely true image and substance as God. He now has humanity in the mix and is also more like us now. They were one shared substance, Jesus is now human also which the Father has none of.
You cannot say Jesus is the one and only completely true image and substance as God.

He is either a completely true image or he is God, but cannot be both. Besides the phrase,
'substance as God' is confusing and probably unbiblical.
 
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You cannot have it both ways. Either Jesus is an exact replica of God, or the very image of His substance, or an exact representation of His very being.
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Jesus is God and someone else is His exact replica or very image of His substance, or an exact representation of His being.

You cannot be both. A replica of the original, cannot be the original.


I've lost count of how many times I've said this --Jesus---One with the Father---same substance --from everlasting to everlasting-- until He became human. He continued to share in the Father's divinity, but the Father does not share in His humanity. What is so hard to comprehend about that???
 
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Can I worship Jesus? Do you?

(New Testament | Matthew 4:10)

10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

(New Testament | John 4:23)

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
 
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You probably won't even know him because you'll be in a lower kingdom.
Jesus Christ will be the judge perhaps only a few thousand will end up in the Celestial kingdom:

(Old Testament | Deuteronomy 5:10)

10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

If I don't make it I am sure I will be happy with whatever I do receive, because it will be more than I deserve.
 
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I've lost count of how many times I've said this --Jesus---One with the Father---same substance --from everlasting to everlasting-- until He became human. He continued to share in the Father's divinity, but the Father does not share in His humanity. What is so hard to comprehend about that???
So they share divinity, but not humanity? Jesus at this point in time is not made of the same substance as the Father is?

The Father is just spirit. The Son is flesh and bone and spirit. Different substances, but same divinity. OK, I can understand that. Thanks.
 
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We worship who Jesus tells us to worship.

You worship who you want to.
Biblical Christianity teaches that we are to worship Jesus because he commanded it … (see definition of 'honour' below)

John 5:23
"That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him." ~ Jesus commanding to worship him​

and just a sample where God revealed that people and angels did indeed worshipped Jesus:

Matthew 2:2
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Matthew 2:11
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him:

Matthew 8:2
And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him,

Matthew 14:33
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Matthew 15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

Luke 24:52
And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

Hebrews 1:6
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

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Oxford dictionary:
Definition: -> Honour: -> verb:
synonyms:
hold in great respect · hold in high esteem · have a high regard for · esteem · respect · admire · defer to · look up to · think highly of · appreciate · value · prize · cherish · reverence · revere · venerate · worship · put on a pedestal​
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We only will worship God the Father and His Son Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost. How many times do we have to go over this, until you understand.

So, you're a polytheist and 'He is the way' is a henotheist as taught by your church?
 
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Biblical Christianity teaches that we are to worship Jesus because he commanded it … (see definition of 'honour' below)

John 5:23
"That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him." ~ Jesus commanding to worship him​

and just a sample where God revealed that people and angels did indeed worshipped Jesus:

Matthew 2:2
Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

Matthew 2:11
And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him:

Matthew 8:2
And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him,

Matthew 14:33
Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

Matthew 15:25
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

Luke 24:52
And they worshipped him, and returned to Jerusalem with great joy:

Hebrews 1:6
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

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Oxford dictionary:
Definition: -> Honour: -> verb:
synonyms:
hold in great respect · hold in high esteem · have a high regard for · esteem · respect · admire · defer to · look up to · think highly of · appreciate · value · prize · cherish · reverence · revere · venerate · worship · put on a pedestal​
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My answer still stands. We worship Who Jesus tells us to worship. To make it more clear, we worship Jesus's God, God the Father, (John 4:23) and when appropriate we worship the Son, Jesus.

Is this a trick question?
 
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