when do the events spoken of here take place? thanks!

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We are told that during the tribulation period there will be 144,000 - 12,000 from each tribe with the: "Father’s name written on their foreheads." During this 7 year time they will be a witness and testimony for God. Even now they are writing books and getting prepared for this time.

Most people believe that it will take them 3 1/2 years to rebuild the temple and we are told: "he will seat himself in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God" (2Thes2:3) Paul tells us that Jesus can not return until: " the man of lawlessness (the son of destruction) is revealed."
Consider this and let me know please. The Lord foretold that as in the Days of Noah those Last Days would have fallen angels on the earth. How have they disappeared from prophecy teaching? When anti- Messiah/ Christ comes up out of the Bottomless Pit or the Abyss if you prefer, demonic locusts come with him. I believe these are fallen angels and a partial fulfillment of the Lord’s prophcy. Then after the angels out of the Abyss are released the angels under the Euphrates are released and these two groups will counterfeit the Christ one more time when anti-Christ comes with his army of angels. These angels we are told have been kept for the time of judgment.

Just as the fallen angels disappear there is something else that I believe has happened. You know Replacement Theology and I suggestbthere has been and continues today Replacement Prophevy where the apostate Israel is removed for a gentile mystery Babylon. That is why the 5 chapter prophecy is so important it is not sealed as Daniel was and the Revelation is still having some secrets that are beginning to be seen and understood. Israel is gone except for the salvation of the Remnant. Replaced by Gentiles who are not found in Daniels 70 weeks of years. You know it says 70 weeks for your people and city. How is a gentile mystery Babylon Daniel’s people? It isn’t. No wonder our understanding is bonkers we ruled out the apostate potion of Israel, from whom the Remnant titis saved. Waiting to hear your thoughts. Thanks
 
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Jehovah in Hebrew has four letters: Yod - Hay - Vov - Hay. The Yod is the smallest and the least of all letters. This is seen in the Big bang where the least becomes the greatest. An Infinite God has to express Himself in a way that finite man can comprehend and understand. The first Hay represents the Hebrew Nation that proclaims God to the world. The descendants of Abraham. The Vov represents the nail that nailed Jesus to the Cross. The last Hay represents the Christian Churches that have taken the message of Jesus to the world.

It is interesting that as Jesus Humbled Himself for us. So we are to be humble if we desire to be joint heirs with Him. Even though He was born the Son of the Head of the House (with all power and authority). He entered the world as a servant. He did not come to be served, He came to serve.

Amazing, remarkable, the Love of our Lord, so thankful.... so so thankful to our God. AMEN!!!!
 
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They understand it .... they (orthodox Jews) just don't believe Jesus was/is the Messiah
Paul tells us: "I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will remove godlessness from Jacob." (Romans 11:25,26)

This is the time of the Gentiles even if the second day is about to come to an end.
 
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You are preaching to the choir on this. I undertook doing Passover Seder meals and presentations for church’s there is no doubt it is as He says the volume of the Book speaks of Him. The presentations were well received. We had a meal beforehand because it was easier logistically to do so. Then I went through each element. Finally I would keep everything out where people could see the pieces and comment or ask questions. I got to old and sickly and had to stop and there are few things that have broken my heart more than ending that ministry. It is so good meeting others who know these truths. Most Christians as you say have a sad understanding of gentile Christian things but ask them about the Lord bringing out His Supper from the Seder I get incredulous looks and questions like why do we need to understand that Jewish stuff.

I get a roll when I get to talk about Him and His Word. Last thing for this post. You are probably aware that His death and resurrection did not fulfill the Passover. When He was getting ready to eat He spoke of how He greatly desired that particular Seder. I will return to what He said that night but first the Lord’s Supper. When He took the cup of redemption and gave it to His disciples it was the betrothal and the Brides acceptance. He is at Hie Father’s house preparing a place for us. That night of the engagement party the Bride accepted by taking the cup and drinking. The Lord said as He was coming in to eat the meal that it would not eat it again until it was fulfilled in heaven. The only meal spoken of taking place in heaven is the Wedding Supper of the Lamb. Amazing
 
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Consider this and let me know please. The Lord foretold that as in the Days of Noah those Last Days would have fallen angels on the earth. How have they disappeared from prophecy teaching? When anti- Messiah/ Christ comes up out of the Bottomless Pit or the Abyss if you prefer, demonic locusts come with him. I believe these are fallen angels and a partial fulfillment of the Lord’s prophcy. Then after the angels out of the Abyss are released the angels under the Euphrates are released and these two groups will counterfeit the Christ one more time when anti-Christ comes with his army of angels. These angels we are told have been kept for the time of judgment.
I have seen the bottomless pit and this is very literal. This is a volcano that will release smoke and cause sickness. There are fallen angles that were cast out of Heaven with Lucifer and they will be released at this time for the 3 1/2 year period of time. The worst of the demons that were bound until this point in time when God's wrath is poured out on the world. This is when the survivalists will kick in and they will seek to escape the city and get off the grid. "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!" (matthew 24:19) "20 Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again."

If you are looking for something at the Euphrates it is already happening there now. Iran and the Saudi are in conflict with each other. Even though they are brothers and descendants of Ishmael. It is amazing when we go to look at these ancient Bible sites the modern conflict that we find there today.
 
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Paul tells us: "I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come from Zion; He will remove godlessness from Jacob." (Romans 11:25,26)

This is the time of the Gentiles even if the second day is about to come to an end.

Agree, and the full number of the gentiles becomes complete when our Lord returns.
 
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I have seen the bottomless pit and this is very literal. This is a volcano that will release smoke and cause sickness. There are fallen angles that were cast out of Heaven with Lucifer and they will be released at this time for the 3 1/2 year period of time. The worst of the demons that were bound until this point in time when God's wrath is poured out on the world. This is when the survivalists will kick in and they will seek to escape the city and get off the grid. "But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!" (matthew 24:19) "20 Pray that your flight will not occur in the winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For at that time there will be great tribulation, unmatched from the beginning of the world until now, and never to be seen again."

If you are looking for something at the Euphrates it is already happening there now. Iran and the Saudi are in conflict with each other. Even though they are brothers and descendants of Ishmael. It is amazing when we go to look at these ancient Bible sites the modern conflict that we find there today.

Amen. I don’t think there has been a more exciting time to be alive.
 
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Agree, and the full number of the gentiles becomes complete when our Lord returns.
What do you think about the temple is measured
And the outer courts are filled with gentiles but the inner court, the court of Israel and the priests are not gentile. That can only be that they are Jewish people because the gentiles were not to be measured. This is the temple of anti-Christ. You seem to have lots of knowledge to draw from have you ever calculated or found someone who has calculated the size of the Millennial Temple? That’s a big, big temple it is going to be awesome. I believe it will be larger than the present city of Jerusalem. Wow!
 
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Amen. I don’t think there has been a more exciting time to be alive.
I do not think it is all that great. Although, even Moses tells us that the latter rain will be greater then the early rain to bring in the harvest. Evil is getting to be so evil it is going to take a lot of the power of God working in people to set them free and to deliver them. It was not that long ago we were just trying to catch up to what the early church had. Now we are surpassing them in the power we have available. The angels fight the battle for us.
 
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