And to me I consider that's prosperity but I consider prosperity to be the moving into the blessings of God and a return of kindness and gentleness from others is your soul being prosperous.
Ha...well that you might have to fast that might be prosperity as well. God might be moving one into more of the blessed state of being in good shape if they're somewhat overweight....Ha, not saying you are mind you.
So you are believing in prosperity God's way even involves financial things. You qualify what it means however which is good.
Of course I do believe some preachers might have a wrong spirit but listeners need to have discernment. I think one can wrongly assert one is "manipulating" people. I don't think just because one says the words God will bless you for supporting their ministry absolutely means it's without truth. The well known verse of scripture where Paul stated, "that God will meet your needs according to his riches in glory" really was spoken to those who would support his ministry,
"Now ye Philippians know also, that in the beginning of the gospel, when I departed from Macedonia, no church communicated with me as concerning giving and receiving, but ye only. For even in Thessalonica ye sent once and again unto my necessity. Not because I desire a gift: but I desire fruit that may abound to your account. But I have all, and abound: I am full, having received of Epaphroditus the things which were sent from you, an odour of a sweet smell, a sacrifice acceptable, wellpleasing to God. But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus." Phil 4: 15,19
Of course I want to be careful. I don't want to leave the impression that anyone who says give to me and God will bless you should be taken seriously....but....we need discernment. One should first KNOW in one's spirit from the Spirit of God that a certain ministry is worthy of support. There's being led by the Spirit not just being led by what a man says.
Ah not sure I totally agree with that. The overall revelation of God including the Old Testament we can see examples and scriptural principles of give and expect a return.
Elijah speaking to the widow woman told her to give her last bit of food and she was inspired to believe,
"For this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘The jar of flour will not be used up and the jug of oil will not run dry until the day the Lord sends rain on the land.’” 1 Kings 17: 7-16
I'm sure there are some what you call "prosperity preachers" who will have to give account to God. Keep in mind there are let's call them traditional type of preachers, minsters, Reverends, while they don't preach as it were "prosperity" it might be deemed that they too have been unjustly living off the sheep by having nice homes, good cars, and abundance of all bills paid, good vacations while a poor member of their church is struggling with having the basic essentials of life. My point is God will weigh the motives of EVERYONE'S heart not just a few. It can be easy to point to Prosperity preachers and show much disdain but well....there can be others things one might need to consider as well.