Nope. We are not speaking of the afterlife (or where a person goes when they die) in this thread. That would be off topic......just to be clear.
I am leaning toward Full Preterism [not hyper preterism!], but remain more Amill/Idealist/Consistant Preterist.
[I do not know enough about "hyper preterism" to comment on it.
Doctrinal Implications of Hyper-Preterism]
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I am not so closed minded as to not view the full spectrum of Preterism, so with permission from the OP, I will bring up articles on all forms of Preterism concerning the 70AD destruction of Jerusalem, since Full Preterism can be be discussed on this board.
Discussion on Consistent Preterism and the Impact of AD70 as the Terminal Date (2015)
Discussion on Consistent Preterism and the Impact of AD70 as the Terminal Date (2015)
I think we need to distinguish between full preterism and hyper-preterism.
Full preterism is an optimistic eschatology.
Don’t think I can say the same thing about hyper-preterism, which has led some right out of Christianity
And all this prophecy of what would result from their insolence against the Christ has been clearly proved to have taken place. Afterwards from that day to this that God turned their feasts into mourning, despoiled them of their famous Mother-City, and destroyed the holy Temple therein when Titus and Vespasian were Emperors of Rome, so that they could no longer go up to keep their feasts and sacred meetings. In return for their rejection of the Word of God; since with one voice they refused Him, so He refuses them. - Eusebius
Universalism – The Preterist Archive of Realized Eschatology
Kurt Simmons: The Attack on Full Preterism, Death was Destroyed in AD70? (2007)
Hosea Ballou Study Archive
It appears evident from the above, that the Saviour was informing his disciples how it would fare with them and other professors of Christianity, at the time when Jerusalem should be destroyed, and the Jews dispersed.
Continue reading “Hosea Ballou Study Archive”
Kurt Simmons: The Attack on Full Preterism, Death was Destroyed in AD70? (2007)
Introduction
The recent attack upon full Preterism, alleging that it logically leads to Universalism, has made it clear that the question
which death was destroyed in A.D. 70 figures prominently in the discussion. In this article we answer this question and trace some of the ideological antecedents leading to Universalism within the Preterist camp. We will conclude that it is soteriology, not eschatology that has led some into Universalism, and this, based upon erroneous assumptions concerning imputed Adamic sin and the Mosaic law
The Preterist Connection
The same result obtains as well logically, not just morally: those who argue for unlimited atonement quickly find themselves in the Universalist camp. Here are some quotes by Preterist writers concerning the destruction of death at the eschaton. The first is by a Reformed minister. The second is also Reformed but, seeing the Universalist implications of full Preterism as interpreted through the rubric of Calvinism, now argues for
Pret-Idealism.
The last is from a Baptist background, but verbalizes Calvinism nonetheless, it being generally acknowledged that the Philadelphia Confession of Faith used by Baptist churches was taken from that source.[12] As we will see, their statements are unequivocally Universalist:
Max King, credited by some with the birth of the modern Preterist movement, has given numerous indications in recent years that he has gone over to Universalism. In 2002, Tim King, Max’s son and president of the King’s Presence Ministries, published an article entitled “Comprehensive Grace,” which bore many markings of Universalist thought and sentiment.
We need to see anthropology through the lens of a transformed cosmology. Simply stated, man is changed because his world is changed. Man is reconciled to God because he no longer lives under the rule of sin and death as determined by the Mosaic world.Through the gift of Christ he dwells in a world of righteousness and life.
The issue is cosmic and corporate, not individual and limited.Now, as then, evil does not thwart the “much more” of God’s grace (Romans 5:9, 10, 15, 17, 20).
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The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:
INCLUDING A NARRATIVE OFTHE CALAMITIES WHICH BEFEL THE JEWS
"I consider the Prophecy relative to the destruction of the Jewish nation,
if there were nothing else to support Christianity, as absolutely irresistible."
(Mr. Erskine's Speech, at the Trial of Williams, for publishing Paine's Age of Reason)
History records few events more generally interesting than the destruction of Jerusalem, and the subversion of the Jewish state, by the arms of the Romans. -- Their intimate connexion with the dissolution of the Levitical economy, and the establishment of Christianity in the world ; the striking verification which they afford of so many of the prophecies, both of the Old and New Testament, and the powerful arguments of the divine authority of the Scriptures which are thence derived..........
