No... the disciples including Paul, gathered for what is called Havdallah... and end of Sabbath meal and prayer for the coming week. Once done, Paul taught. That was on what we call a Saturday night. But because the bible begins it's day at sundown, it was the first day of the week.... but still not Sunday morning.
Oh yes it includes the Sunday morning. The Jewish day begins at evening and continues to the following evening. So between the evenings is the morning and throughout the day.
So not on Sunday as you know it today, and no mandate.
You have provided yourself a lie just so you can deny that the first century believers went to worship God on Sunday.
Just because somebody gathered and taught on any day doesn't decree that day supersedes something God set apart at Creation.
I disagree. The book of Hebrews and other epistles of Paul states that any one can enter into God's rest on any day of the week.
That isn't what 1 Timothy says. Think about it, first of all, God made some animals food, and some were not food. Second, in 1 Timothy 4, the context of verses 3 and 4 are tied to 5 which says, "for it sanctified by the word of God and prayer." It, is that which was received, and that which was received was set apart by the Word of God. Well guess what... there was no NT back then, not until about 200AD. So the "Word of God" was the Tanach, the OT... and there the only thing set apart to be received as food are those things God created to be food.
The apostle Paul stated in 2 Tim.3:16 that all scriptures are God breathed. In Hebrews 1 it states that in the OT God spoke through Moses and the prophets but that now in the NT God speaks through His Son.
So. When Paul wrote that food is sanctified by the Word of God and prayer. He was referring to when Jesus became the Word of God and dwelt among us. As well as the inspired revelations that Paul received to share with the believers. Because the OT times didn't have that grace working where they could just eat non-kosher food as long as it was prayed over by scriptures in the Tanach.
If the Sabbath and New Moon gathering are not for us, and not for today.... then there isn't anything to judge because they don't exist anymore.
It doesn't state that they aren't for us today. The Sabbath and the new moon is involved in the Jewish feasts that will never be done away with.
However, it states that no one is to judge anyone as to whether they are observed in the same way of the NT dispensation as they were in the OT.
Therefore, worshipping only on Sabbath-Friday & Saturday is giving way to the grace of the NT observance on Sunday when Jesus rose from the dead.
We live under a better covenant than they did. So why should any of us seek to do it exactly as they did in the OT?
Concerning the Galatians who sought to do that, the apostle Paul told them they forsake grace when they try to keep themselves according to the OT.
But they do exist, and we are to gather on these days and we shouldn't be bothered when others, who don't understand, judge us.
At the same time.. you Sabbath only worshipers are not to judge us who worship on Sunday. Nor seek to convert us or imply that we are not following the Bible and therefore if we seek to obey God, then we must (according to you) worship only on the Sabbath.
You are part of Israel now, whether you know it today or not.
No. Your theology is seeking to be acceptable to God even so far as going away from what is Biblical.
You are comparable to the Galatians.
We are not part of Israel. We are the Body of Christ.
There are only three groups of peoples. The Jews, the Gentiles, and the Church. We are the Church.
Any Jew.. such as the first century apostles of the Lord.. who receives Jesus as their Messiah is placed in the Body of Christ.
As Paul wrote in Ephesians 2, you WERE a gentile and WERE an alien of the Commonwealth of Israel but are NOW through the blood of Christ, a fellow citizen.
That is speaking of our sharing in the inheritance of the saints. That does not require that we become Israel in order to fulfill it.
And as part of Israel, the Sabbath remains and perpetual (everlasting, never ending) sign of the covenant.
Until the end of the OT and the establishing of the NT.
First of all, there is nothing that says to set apart Sunday. Nothing... not one verse.
Jesus set it apart when He rose from the dead on that day. Friday and Saturday He was still dead in the tomb.
There isn't much of which to worship God over that. We can't worship God that in our salvation we too are raised from the dead.
We can't say "this is the day (Saturday) that the LORD has made. A day (Saturday) to rejoice and be glad in Him".
We can only say that it's a day to rejoice and be glad in Him.. When it's Sunday.
Second, if WHEN he rose matters that much to you, then you need to get up BEFORE sunrise on Sunday to celebrate the time.
I do. However, around 8AM on Sunday morning .. I go to church to worship with other believers who rejoice also in their salvation and having been raised from the dead. In the new dawn, a new day unto resurrection life. Which Biblically nor spiritually cannot be done on Saturday.
Because at sunrise, the tomb was ALREADY empty, he had ALREADY risen... and yet you wait many hours to celebrate because the day he rose is so important to you?
I do hope that the morning of His resurrection is important to you. I do hope that your identity is in Christ Jesus and not in Israel.
I don't care what you do... I don't even think you are wrong to gather on Sunday... all I am saying is, not one verse says the Sabbath is not for today, and not one verse says to replace it with Sunday.
You are seeking for a definite verse that would tell you word for word to worship on Sunday. I see the example of the NT body of believers that did it. They were Jews, who taught the Gentiles by example. So how can you, a Gentile, be more right than they are?
I can tell you EXACTLY when and why SOME Hellenized Jews began to keep Sunday and when it became the majority practice.
No you can't exactly tell me.. but I can exactly tell you.
In Acts they were not Hellenized. They were all the apostles of Christ who were the disciples of the Lord written of in the four gospels.
They gathered to worship on the day of His resurrection. The first say of the week. Sunday.
Don't waste your time on this.
I've indicated above from where I take my instruction.
So should you.
There were two Pharisaical schools in that day, one taught the letter of the law, one taught the spirit of the law. Paul went to the law and yet still killed Christians. I would think you can't fully explain the difference between the two.
It was Paul who taught the believers about grace. He told the Galatians to cease from following the law.
I will... the letter ALONE kills... it doesn't say the letter kills.
So, you deny 2 Cor.3:6?
And He has qualified us as ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Do not steal still applies... don't take something that belongs to somebody else. But don't even set your heart on taking it because when you do, you have already sinned. THAT is the spirit behind the letter. Don't believe me... go look at messiah's examples. To lay with another's wife is adultery... STILL adultery. But to do so in the heart is ALSO adultery. To physically kill your brother is murder... to hate in the heart is the same.
I read that to mean that, the letter without the love of God, kills. But you didn't mention the love of God at all as the motive why you should not steal or commit adultery.. etc. So I'm thinking that you are living your religious life by the letter of the law. No other motivation than naked obedience. Am I wrong?
But like the Galatians you aren't living in NT grace, but according to the OT law.
You could have asked for an explanation rather than tell me what I do makes no sense. It does... if you want to hear it. If not it will always just not make sense.
Instead of saying that. You could have explained it to me.
But you didn't take your opportunity to do it.
You are spiritually raised when you come to Him in faith. Once done it's done, it isn't a recurring event. "Now we are the children of God and it does not yet appear what WE SHALL BE."
The work is not done, we are not to camp at the cross... we are to come in faith believing and then begin a journey where we learn what God's will is for our lives and walk it out the best we can... learning from any mistakes we make and we will make them.
I take it that you are explaining how you see it. Not that you are telling me something that I hadn't known.
You make this sound like bondage when it is joy to be part of His family!
The return to the OT worship on Saturday is a bondage that doesn't acknowledge the freedom from the OT observances.. and instead embrace fully the life that there is in Christ.
What family.. Israel?
No. The Bible does not explicitly say that we become Israel. But it does explicitly state that we are the body of Christ. The Church.
