Instead of saying.......

IceJad said:

"Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns."

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Today that would be you need to consider being a team player.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Why ?

Is that how they all did throughout Scripture ? (God's appointed men and women)
I think not.

(not approving of anything personal either , attack or blessing; - only as the Father in heaven directs)

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Why? Because we must love others as we would want to be loved. The failure to do so ends in hypocrisy. These scriptures come to mind.

James 3:17
17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

2 Timothy 2:24-25 King James Version (KJV)
24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

Galatians 6:1
6 Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Matthew 7:1-5 King James Version (KJV)
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Sam91 said:

What do you say to a four year old who hasn't got their own way so has said

'I hate you now mummy'

(So far I have pretended to be sad about it and explained it hurts.

Then the last 3 times I've said 'It doesn't hurt any more because you've said it too much. Saying that you hate me won't get you what you want.')

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Ignore it. A while later, have an important talk with her. Look her in the eyes and tell her that you know that she was angry and said something she really didn’t mean. Tell her you know that deep down, she really does love you, just like you love her.

Sam91 said:

What do you say to a four year old who hasn't got their own way so has said

'I hate you now mummy'

(So far I have pretended to be sad about it and explained it hurts.

Then the last 3 times I've said 'It doesn't hurt any more because you've said it too much. Saying that you hate me won't get you what you want.')

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Acting sad or showing emotion is counterproductive. Be the adult.

Emmylouwho said:

Acting sad or showing emotion is counterproductive. Be the adult.

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So no sticking out your tongue?

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timothyu said:

So no sticking out your tongue?

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haha! Definitely not! And no pretend sad stuff either. Rise above it.

Emmylouwho said:

haha! Definitely not! And no pretend sad stuff either. Rise above it.

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I'm sulking now

Emmylouwho said:

Acting sad or showing emotion is counterproductive. Be the adult.

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I don't know whether I agree here. If I put on a happy face when telling my kids well done, I think with a young child it's right to look down at the floor and then make your face look as if your slightly sad before saying they said a hurtful thing. I'm not talking about fake crying etc. It helps them connect the emotions. That stops once they are older and thoroughly understand emotions that other people have finer emotions in the same way as them?

It helped my middle child because she has autism. She still struggles understanding what people are feeling though and she is 12. I think the time to not do that will be soon with my son but it helps 0-4 possibly 5 year olds join the dots in my opinion.

Here's one that happened a week or 2 ago:

Having been requested to look at a minor mechanical problem, and then telling the person how to fix it in my experience, and then hearing a skeptical reply "oh I would not do that." (reasonable doubt perhaps, but I didn't like the tone and the feeling of it suggested I'd just make up a foolish answer without knowing)

Instead of responding some various version of: "Don't you think I'd know what I'm talking about" (with irritation) or "It's not like I never fixed this problem" (with irritation)

I was able (I'd prayed the lord's prayer) to pause and instead say "You can find out how to do that online" (I left it in their hands in a helpful way without arguing, and with a friendly tone that was sincere. I give credit to the Lord for that.) The next time I see them it will be effortless to smile in pleasure at seeing them.

childeye 2 said:

Why? Because we must love others as we would want to be loved. The failure to do so ends in hypocrisy. These scriptures come to mind.

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What if the "way you want to be loved" is very much in error? What then ?

ChicanaRose said:

Sure, if your role is a prophet. But if your role is a preacher/ evangelist, you must learn to contextualize. That's not same as a compromise.

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.... since when are those who are messengers called and chosen by God for Himself to speak His Words, His Testimony, His Way,
since when are those messengers , God's messengers, including teachers and evangelists,
told by God to "learn to contextualize" ? ! (as if by means of "the flesh, which profits nothing")
(instead of speaking His Word as from Him (like when we are called before a judge, as written in Scripture - "do not even think of what you are going to say before the judge, for the words you speak will not be your own but will be the Father's Words spoken through you ")

yeshuaslavejeff said:

... since when are those who are messengers called and chosen by God for Himself to speak His Words, His Testimony, His Way,
since when are those messengers , God's messengers, including teachers and evangelists,
told by God to "learn to contextualize" ? ! (as if by means of "the flesh, which profits nothing")
(instead of speaking His Word as from Him (like when we are called before a judge, as written in Scripture - "do not even think of what you are going to say before the judge, for the words you speak will not be your own but will be the Father's Words spoken through you ")

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That was the Instead of saying part. I'm waiting for the Use.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

What if the "way you want to be loved" is very much in error? What then ?

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That's a deeper issue to be sure. A direct answer would actually require a specific example and I would assume the answer would vary in nuance on a case by case basis.

Generally speaking however, I believe that how a person defines or perceives the term "Love" would first need to be evaluated. If Love is viewed as subjective, then even lack of Love/compassion/empathy could account for error.

If a person views love as a personal opinion, then that produces a different outlook than someone who perceives Love/empathy as the Spirit of God, or Word of God, in mankind.

And if we are to get even deeper, I believe that the semantics that occur in language and in thought reveal that two contrary images of god/God will reverse the denotations and connotations of our terms in a right/wrong dichotomy. In other words, each person's perception of love is dependent upon the image of God/god they hold to be true.

childeye 2 said:

That's a deeper issue to be sure. A direct answer would actually require a specific example and I would assume it would vary on a case by case basis.

Generally speaking however, I believe that how a person defines or perceives the term "Love" first needs to be considered. If Love is viewed as subjective, then even lack of Love/compassion/empathy could account for error.

If a person views love as a personal opinion, then that produces a different outlook than someone who perceives Love/empathy as the Spirit of God, or Word of God, in mankind.

And if we are to get even deeper, I believe that the semantics that occur in language and in thought reveal that two contrary images of god/God will reverse the denotations and connotations of our terms in a right/wrong dichotomy.

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How about we look at Yahuweh's "Love", as He Loves us, and the Love He requires of all who are His.....?
In and throughout all Scripture, and history of His revelation / words/ spoken to His people,
and as Jesus declared,

and as the Hebrew people understood,

"Love" is NOT an emotion, nor a feeling, nor an opinion, no, not at all.

Love is a CHOICE OF THE WILL, to chose once for all and continually to DO WHAT THE FATHER SAYS,
always likewise DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR SOMEONE. (I think somewhere in a original word (Hebrew/ Greek) study, or in a footnote/ comment in or about the Bible,
that all Ekklesia are instructed to definitely let others know, as appropriate,
that we are required to do what is best for them - and we already of course willingly and joyously agree with the Father and with the Son to always do what is best for others, being always willingly and joyously obeying the Father : doing what the Father directs us to do, as the Son told us (disciples) to do.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

How about we look at Yahuweh's "Love", as He Loves us, and the Love He requires of all who are His.....?
In and throughout all Scripture, and history of His revelation / words/ spoken to His people,
and as Jesus declared,

and as the Hebrew people understood,

"Love" is NOT an emotion, nor a feeling, nor an opinion, no, not at all.

Love is a CHOICE OF THE WILL, to chose once for all and continually to DO WHAT THE FATHER SAYS,
always likewise DOING WHAT IS BEST FOR SOMEONE. (I think somewhere in a original word (Hebrew/ Greek) study, or in a footnote/ comment in or about the Bible,
that all Ekklesia are instructed to definitely let others know, as appropriate,
that we are required to do what is best for them - and we already of course willingly and joyously agree with the Father and with the Son to always do what is best for others, being always willingly and joyously obeying the Father : doing what the Father directs us to do, as the Son told us (disciples) to do.

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"Love is a CHOICE OF THE WILL".
This is true in the sense that in the moral/immoral paradigm as a matter of circumstance we must decide between two perceived options of right and wrong actions. However, as I stated in my prior post, right and wrong are defined by one's image of God/god.

"Love is not an emotion". I would respectfully disagree. We weep because of Love. We experience heartbreak because of Love. We care about others because of Love. Love compels and restrains and moves and animates the will/desire.

childeye 2 said:

"Love is a CHOICE OF THE WILL".
This is true in the sense that in the moral/immoral paradigm as a matter of circumstance we must decide between two perceived options of right and wrong actions. However, as I stated in my prior post, right and wrong are defined by one's image of God/god.

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What do you do then when/if "one's image" is very much in error ? (as most of the world's is)

yeshuaslavejeff said:

What do you do then when/if "one's image" is very much in error ? (as most of the world's is)

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That's why we preach the Gospel, to reveal the True Image of God in the Christ.

2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

2 Corinthians 4:5-7 King James Version (KJV)

5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.

6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.

7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.