The Difference between Daniel`s 70th Week and the Tribulation.

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The Gog/Magog Invasion has to take place at least 31/2 years before the antichrist signs a treaty with Israel. Why? Because Israel burns th eweapons of war for 7 years and we know that in the middle of the 7 years, Israel has to flee for their lives to Petra!
When the Jews flee into the mountains, to escape the persecution when the AoD is setup, they will scavenge the fuel left in the remains of Gog's army left in the mountains of Israel.

The 7 years begins immediately following Gog/Magog. The Antichrist doesn't confirm a 3 1/2 year treaty.

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BABerean2 said:
Can you show us how many mortals are left alive on the planet at the end of the following passage?

Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
Mat 25:32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

How will your mortals survive the "flaming fire" found at the Second Coming of Christ below?

2Th 1:7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
2Th 1:8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
2Th 1:9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
2Th 1:10 When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

Your interpretation of Revelation chapter 20 falls apart in the passages above and the video below.
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Good point.............
Hi BABerean,

`Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets....And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to worship the King...` (Zech. 14: 12 & 16)
Marilyn.
BABerean2 said:
"shall go up from year to year"

If they do so every year, could that be for an eternity?
Marilyn C said:
Hi BABerean,

I don`t think so.

`And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain....they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.` (Zech. 14: 17 & 18)
Who is the Feast of Tabernacles in the New Covenant?

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Hello BAB and M C..... Who is the "family of Egypt"?

Zechariah 14:18 biblehub

JPS Tanakh 1917
And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, they shall have no overflow; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the nations that go not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Brenton Septuagint Translation
Zechariah 14:18
And if the family of Egypt shall not go up, nor come; then upon them shall be the overthrow with which the Lord shall smite all the nations, whichever of them shall not come up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Orthodox Jewish Bible
Zechariah 14:18
And if the mishpakhat Mitzrayim go not up, and come not, upon them shall fall the magefah (plague) wherewith Hashem will strike the Goyim that come not up to keep Chag HaSukkot. 19 This shall be the punishment of Mitzrayim, and the punishment of kol HaGoyim that come not up to keep Chag HaSukkot.

Zechariah 14:18 And if family of Egypt not shall go up, and not come,
and not on them shall become the smiting which Yahweh shall smite the nations,
which not they shall go up to celebrate celebration of the booths/05521 cukkah.
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Leviticus 23:42
`In booths/05521 cukkah ye dwell seven days all who are natives in Israel dwell in booths/05521 cukkah,

Psalms 76:2
And His tent/booth/05520 [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] is in Shalem,
And His habitation/04585 m@`ownah in Tsiyown
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John 1:14
And the Word became flesh, and tabernacles/booths<4637> in us,
and we esteem the glory of Him, glory as an Only-begotten beside Father, full of Grace and Truth.
Revelation 7:15
“Therefore they are before the throne of God, and divinely-serve Him day and night in His Sanctuary.
And He who sits on the throne shall be tabernacling<4637> among them.
Revelation 12:12 - “Therefore be making merry! O heavens and those tabernacling<4637> in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the land and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”
Revelation 13:6
Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God,
to blaspheme His Name, His tabernacle<4637> , and those who dwell in heaven.

Revelation 21:3
And I heard a great voice out the heaven saying, “Behold! the tabernacle<4633> of God is with men, and He shall be tabernacling/boothing<4637> with them, and they shall be His people.
God Himself will be with them and be their God.


4632. skeuos skyoo'-os of uncertain affinity; a vessel, implement, equipment or apparatus (literally or figuratively (specially, a wife as contributing to the usefulness of the husband)):--goods, sail, stuff, vessel.
4633. skene skay-nay' apparently akin to 4632 and 4639;
a tent or cloth hut (literally or figuratively):--habitation, tabernacle.
4634. skenopegia skay-nop-ayg-ee'-ah from 4636 and 4078; the Festival of Tabernacles (so called from the custom of erecting booths for temporary homes):--tabernacles.
4636. skenos skay'-nos from 4633; a hut or temporary residence, i.e. (figuratively) the human body (as the abode of the spirit):--tabernacle.
4637. skenoo skay-no'-o from 4636; to tent or encamp, i.e. (figuratively) to occupy (as a mansion) or (specially), to reside (as God did in the Tabernacle of old, a symbol of protection and communion):-- dwell.
Sukkot, The Feast of Booths (known to some as the Feast of Tabernacles) | Jewish Voice Ministries International

The Feast of Booths (known to some as the Feast of Tabernacles) is the seventh and last festival on the biblical calendar, as recorded in Leviticus 23. Also known as Sukkot in Hebrew, God wanted the Israelites to observe this festival by living in temporary shelters for seven days as a reminder that when their ancestors were in the wilderness, God provided them booths to dwell in.

The word "booth" in NT/NC
The word "booth" in NT/NC

Judaism 101: Sukkot
The Festival of Sukkot begins on Tishri 15, the fifth day after Yom Kippur. It is quite a drastic transition, from one of the most solemn holidays in our year to one of the most joyous. Sukkot is so unreservedly joyful that it is commonly referred to in Jewish prayer and literature as Z'man Simchateinu
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, the Season of our Rejoicing.

Sukkot is the last of the Shalosh R'galim (three pilgrimage festivals). Like Passover and Shavu'ot, Sukkot has a dual significance: historical and agricultural. Historically, Sukkot commemorates the forty-year period during which the children of Israel were wandering in the desert, living in temporary shelters. Agriculturally, Sukkot is a harvest festival and is sometimes referred to as Chag Ha-Asif
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, the Festival of Ingathering.

The word "Sukkot" means "booths," and refers to the temporary dwellings that we are commanded to live in during this holiday in memory of the period of wandering. The Hebrew pronunciation of Sukkot is "Sue COAT," but is often pronounced as in Yiddish, to rhyme with "BOOK us." The name of the holiday is frequently translated "Feast of Tabernacles," which, like many translations of Jewish terms, isn't very useful. This translation is particularly misleading, because the word "tabernacle" in the Bible refers to the portable Sanctuary in the desert, a precursor to the Temple, called in Hebrew "mishkan." The Hebrew word "sukkah" (plural: "sukkot") refers to the temporary booths that people lived in, not to the Tabernacle.
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What you are missing is the person will be both the King of Israel (necessitating that he will be Jew) perceived messiah, and also the King of the Roman Empire end times.

It is not that he is a gentile, but will be King of a gentile Kingdom and King of Israel for awhile.


That's not going to happen, nolidad. Are you talking about Baghdad? Or a whole new city built?
 
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What you are missing is the person will be both the King of Israel (necessitating that he will be Jew) perceived messiah, and also the King of the Roman Empire end times.

It is not that he is a gentile, but will be King of a gentile Kingdom and King of Israel for awhile.


That's not going to happen, nolidad. Are you talking about Baghdad? Or a whole new city built?

Nowhere does it say Hie is king of Israel. that is an insertion based on hypothesis. He becomes King of the World, inclusing Israel at the mid point of the 70th week when He enters the holy Place! But there is nothing in Scripture to say he will be anointed King of Israel by the jews.

As for Babylon- it has been rebuilt. First by Hussein and then in 2014- the UN took over to rebuild Babylon! It is not a coincidence that the US built their most elaborate and expensive embassy in IraQ.
 
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When the Jews flee into the mountains, to escape the persecution when the AoD is setup, they will scavenge the fuel left in the remains of Gog's army left in the mountains of Israel.

The 7 years begins immediately following Gog/Magog. The Antichrist doesn't confirm a 3 1/2 year treaty.

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That is all conjecture based on nothing without biblical support. when Jesus prophesied the abomination of desolation and for Israel to flee- the emphasis is on real haste! (don't even go back in th ehouse to gather clothes). So that would preclude them stopping to gather the weapons to burn and bog them down with that time consumption and weight!

Yes He confirms a 7 year treaty. But we do not know what events bring Israel and the antichrist to teh table so he concludes a treaty with them. Everything is just guess work and that is wrong by 0-100%
 
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Nowhere does it say Hie is king of Israel.
Being the (non approved by God) King of Israel is built into the word "AntiChrist". "Instead of and against" Christ, Jesus the rightful King of Israel, who comes in the name of the Lord.
He becomes King of the World, inclusing Israel at the mid point of the 70th week when He enters the holy Place!
It doesn't say anywhere that the person will be King of the World. He will be the 7th and 8th King of the fourth Kingdom. The fourth Kingdom will be the dominant kingdom during the 7 year 70th week.

As for Babylon- it has been rebuilt. First by Hussein and then in 2014- the UN took over to rebuild Babylon! It is not a coincidence that the US built their most elaborate and expensive embassy in IraQ.
The city over there is Baghdad. It is just a big crowded city with mosques, shops, an airport, city streets, etc, nothing special.

That is all conjecture based on nothing without biblical support. when Jesus prophesied the abomination of desolation and for Israel to flee- the emphasis is on real haste! (don't even go back in th ehouse to gather clothes). So that would preclude them stopping to gather the weapons to burn and bog them down with that time consumption and weight!
I have no idea where you came up that comment. The remains of Gog's army will already be in the mountains, to where they will be fleeing.

Ezekiel 39:4 Thou shalt fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that is with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and to the beasts of the field to be devoured.

Yes He confirms a 7 year treaty. But we do not know what events bring Israel and the antichrist to teh table so he concludes a treaty with them. Everything is just guess work and that is wrong by 0-100%
Where in the bible are you reading the person confirms a 7 year peace treaty? It doesn't say anything about a 7 year "peace" treaty in Daniel 9:27.
 
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Being the (non approved by God) King of Israel is built into the word "AntiChrist". "Instead of and against" Christ, Jesus the rightful King of Israel, who comes in the name of the Lord.

Well He is a false Messiah- but never king of Israel. Sorry but you assume too much upon the Scriptures

It doesn't say anywhere that the person will be King of the World. He will be the 7th and 8th King of the fourth Kingdom. The fourth Kingdom will be the dominant kingdom during the 7 year 70th week.

Yes it does!

Dan 7:
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The fourth beast (which we are in the 2 legs or divided part) shall rule the whole world! It will be a type of UN with real authority in the future!

This one world govt. shall somehow fail and the world will be ruled by ten "kings". It is during th ereign of these ten kings that antichirst will arise, subdue three and assume world rule!.

Also REv. 13 shows his world rule!

The city over there is Baghdad. It is just a big crowded city with mosques, shops, an airport, city streets, etc, nothing special.

Wrong again !

Babylon
Babylon Today: Rebuilding the Ancient City
Ancient Babylon In Iraq Restored

God even used Saddam Hussein to help fulfill prophesy.



But Israel doesn't flee to the mountains of Israel. They flee to the trans Jordanian mountain city of Petra!


Where in the bible are you reading the person confirms a 7 year peace treaty? It doesn't say anything about a 7 year "peace" treaty in Daniel 9:27.


I said it is most likely a peace treaty. It may not. But given that almost all of Israels treaties have been land for peace- it is a probable reason. We will know for sure when the time comes and the church is looking down from heaven!
 
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Dan 7:
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The fourth beast (which we are in the 2 legs or divided part) shall rule the whole world! It will be a type of UN with real authority in the future!

This one world govt. shall somehow fail and the world will be ruled by ten "kings". It is during th ereign of these ten kings that antichirst will arise, subdue three and assume world rule!.https://www.christianforums.com/goto/post?id=74297285#post-74297285
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Hi nolidad,

I agree with so much that you say, however there is no such thing as being in the 2 legs part. God only reveals the 5 world rulers and that they will all be judged and finished. Rome was the 4th world ruler and is no more. God is revealing the 5 Gentile world powers and how they are not fit to rule.

As to the UN, that is one aspect of the false prophet, the religious office. The other office he holds will be over the infrastructure of the economic part of the global government.

Marilyn.
 
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Dan 7:
23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

The fourth beast (which we are in the 2 legs or divided part) shall rule the whole world! It will be a type of UN with real authority in the future!

This one world govt. shall somehow fail and the world will be ruled by ten "kings". It is during th ereign of these ten kings that antichirst will arise, subdue three and assume world rule!.

Also REv. 13 shows his world rule!
The Roman Empire tread down the whole world in it's day. And the Roman Legions are who destroyed the city and temple.

In the end times, ten kings will emerge from the end times version of the Roman Empire. Which is not the U.N., nor future U.N. similarity.

It will not be a United Nations of the World. It will be the world of alliances, the north, the south, the east, the west. The kingdom of the beast will be the west, which will be the dominant kingdom and will be able to exert it will over the rest of the world.

In Daniel 11:40-45, the alliances of the north, the south, and the east - will attack the beast's kingdom of the west. In Revelation 16, the sixth vial, the kings of the East cross over a dried up Euphrates.

Daniel 11:45 is when the sixth seal event takes place.

Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
 
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In the end times, ten kings will emerge from the end times version of the Roman Empire. Which is not the U.N., nor future U.N. similarity.


One World Religion in the modern city of Jerusalem.
(Report by Leeland Jones, who lives in the modern State of Israel.)



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Hi nolidad,

I agree with so much that you say, however there is no such thing as being in the 2 legs part. God only reveals the 5 world rulers and that they will all be judged and finished. Rome was the 4th world ruler and is no more. God is revealing the 5 Gentile world powers and how they are not fit to rule.

As to the UN, that is one aspect of the false prophet, the religious office. The other office he holds will be over the infrastructure of the economic part of the global government.

Marilyn.

Yours is a fairly common misunderstanding. Rome split into two separate kingdoms when constantinople became the second capital.

But you have to take in all the prophesies that concern gentile powers with the Key being that Jerusalem will be trodden down by the gentiles till the times of the gentiles is fulfilled.

We are still in the times of the gentiles so these govts. are still in existence. Rome was just the first part of the fourth beast. Remember the statue and beasts in Daniel The fourth beast is diverse from th efirst three- What made Rome different? It was Imperialistic. And Rome never really ceased to End. Emperor Valentinian split the empire!

In the West we had the Holy Roman Empire of the Frankish nation, the germanic nation and the Spanish nation. then Imperialism has moved to Britain then the US.

As for the eastern leg. Imperialism remained capitaled in Constantinople till 1364 when th eturks collapsed it. The leader fled to Russia and took the govt. there and set up Imperialism as a govt. form there. The leaders were called Czars In the east- during the German Roman Empire- the leaders took the name Kaiser. Both czar and Kaiser are derivatives of ceasar!

Once this east-west division fails then we will have a one world govt. (like a UN with real authority) which shall fail and the ten heads (ten toes) take over and the antichrist overtakes three and the other 7 give him their allegiance and He becomes the last gentile world ruler!

The key is that Gentiles have control over Jerusalem (even though Israel has temporary authority in the Maccabean rebellion and now) till the times of the gentiles is filled! It is a non stop period since Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon and continues today.

Remember the fourth beast goes through several iterations or changes during its time!

Look at this verse:

Revelation 17:9-11 King James Version (KJV)
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

See this? five are fallen, one is and one is to come!

Imperialistic Rome had five iterations
The tarquin kings 753-510 B.C.
The Consulors 510-494 B.C.
The Plebians or Dictators 494-390 B.C.
The Republic or Decimvers 390-59 B.C.
The Triumverate 59-27 B.C.
The Ceasars 27 B.C. through 400 somehting A.D.

Teh seventh head will be the absolute imperialism in the antichrist!
 
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The Roman Empire tread down the whole world in it's day. And the Roman Legions are who destroyed the city and temple.

In the end times, ten kings will emerge from the end times version of the Roman Empire. Which is not the U.N., nor future U.N. similarity.

It will not be a United Nations of the World. It will be the world of alliances, the north, the south, the east, the west. The kingdom of the beast will be the west, which will be the dominant kingdom and will be able to exert it will over the rest of the world.

In Daniel 11:40-45, the alliances of the north, the south, and the east - will attack the beast's kingdom of the west. In Revelation 16, the sixth vial, the kings of the East cross over a dried up Euphrates.

Daniel 11:45 is when the sixth seal event takes place.

Daniel 11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

Rome did not tread downthe whole world of their day! They did not conquer as far as Alexander the great did! and they had to build Hadrians Wall to keep the celts out!

And it won't be from the end times version of the Roman Empire- that is too much Jack van IMpe! The ten kings will come from the one world govt. iteration of the fourth beast which devours the whole World!

Given that the Beast overthrows three of the ten kings and the other 7 give their allegiance to him- I agree with you.

Daniel 11:45 is mid trib! When the antichrist sets up his palace (royal tent) on the glorious mountain which is mount Moriah!

The sixth vial is for the kings of th eeast to gather together in the valley of Jezreel (armeggedon) to fight against Christ!

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

See the kings of the east are coming to fight with the antichrist at the battle of the great day of God!
 
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See the kings of the east are coming to fight with the antichrist at the battle of the great day of God!
You are missing a few steps. Eventually they will unite with the beast.

Initially though, the kings of the east and their huge army, it appears will be heading west marching through India and Pakistan, killing a third of mankind on their way.

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

In Daniel 11 verse 44, that troubles the beast, and he goes forward to meet them.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

In Revelation 16:12, the Eurphrates is dried up as the kings of the east cross over, intent on battling with the beast.

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

That is when, unexpectedly, the events of the sixth seal take place sending terror into all the wicked of the earth. And because of the common threat of Jesus's judgement on them, the kings of the earth and the armies are convinced to unite, and to make war of Jesus.

Which is in Revelation 16:13-16 and Psalms 2:1-3.
 
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You are missing a few steps. Eventually they will unite with the beast.

Initially though, the kings of the east and their huge army, it appears will be heading west marching through India and Pakistan, killing a third of mankind on their way.

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

In Daniel 11 verse 44, that troubles the beast, and he goes forward to meet them.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

In Revelation 16:12, the Eurphrates is dried up as the kings of the east cross over, intent on battling with the beast.

12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

That is when, unexpectedly, the events of the sixth seal take place sending terror into all the wicked of the earth. And because of the common threat of Jesus's judgement on them, the kings of the earth and the armies are convinced to unite, and to make war of Jesus.

Which is in Revelation 16:13-16 and Psalms 2:1-3.

Several problems.

1. It is the angels that are loosed who are still sitting at the river euphrates, that kill 1/3 of the men! Not the kings of the east!

2. YOur narrative of the sixth seal is unwarranted. It is opinion to try to shoehorn scripture to fit your ideas instead of letting your ideas conform to Scripture.

Nowhere does it even imply that the drying up of the Euphrates cause the kings of the east to change their mind in attacking the antichrist and decide to ally with him. It is clear that the antichrist is th eworld ruler after he deposed 3 of the ten rulers of the world and the other 76 give their allegiance to HIm

This event just makes it easier for the eastern hordes to gather at the valley of Jezreel to join their forces!
 
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1. It is the angels that are loosed who are still sitting at the river euphrates, that kill 1/3 of the men! Not the kings of the east!
It will be armies of the kings of the east.

Revelation 9:18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

Nowhere does it even imply that the drying up of the Euphrates cause the kings of the east to change their mind in attacking the antichrist and decide to ally with him. It is clear that the antichrist is th eworld ruler after he deposed 3 of the ten rulers of the world and the other 76 give their allegiance to HIm
I never said that the drying up of the Euphrates changes the minds of the Kings of the east. What changes their minds is the sixth seal takes place and they see Jesus before the throne of God, about to execute judgment on them.
 
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YOu cannot be that lousy at understanding Scripture in context are you????

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men
 
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YOu cannot be that lousy at understanding Scripture in context are you????

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men
The problem with interpretation and application is not with me, nolidad.

In Revelation 9:16-18, it is describing the armies of the kings of the east, given the size of the armies. In particular, tanks, and artillery of land based armies.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed,(1) by the fire, and (2)by the smoke, and (3) by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

It appears to me the four angels, their role is to influence the leaders of four Asian nations, which combined would have the manpower for that size of army.
 
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Hi matijevic, weclome to the forum.

The problem with downloading is that there is risk of viruses.

Instead why don't you just post your comments as appropriate?

Or start a new thread if you want people to comment on your prophecies views.
 
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