LDS LDS Jesus Could Have Lost His Godhood

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But according to you, I am saved just like you. I believe in Jesus Christ and had the baptism of water and the baptism of the Holy Ghost. And the second I believed in Jesus Christ I was saved. See you in heaven.

When I was young, I was not taught all the things that adult people are taught in the chruch about Jesus and God. All I knew when I was 8 was Jesus was my Savior and if I trusted in him and lived a good life, I would have Eternal life. Then my experience with the Holy Ghost confirmed my belief and that second, I was saved.

So no nightmare for me. Like I say, see you in heaven.
You don't believe in the Jesus of the Bible , you believe in the Mormon Jesus.
 
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Actually it's you and He is the Way that will … then to only realize the sad tragic reality of just how Mormonism is one of many false paths that leads to outer darkness.
Outer darkness is only mentioned three times in the Bible However, there is one sure path to outer darkness, faith without works:

(New Testament | Matthew 25:29 - 40)

29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
30 And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
31 ¶ When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

LOVE everyone.
 
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So since Jesus was God and will always be God, why would he allow us lower life forms to share everything that he has? 'Everything' is an interesting word, don't you think? What qualities and possessions would you like to share with God?

My nieces are coming over to see me this Fri. My will leaves everything to them. My home and everything in it is theirs for the taking. No matter what, I can not make them into a part of me. Even though they share some of my genetic code, I can not make them into little "me's." One does not become divine, it is inherent in who and what you are, you either are God, or not. You don't become a donkey, you are either born one or not. You don't learn to bray, eat hay and carry packages on your back and you're a donkey. The Mormon lust for power is what will keep you from achieving the gifts God does have in store for you. God is offering us eternal life with Him, sharing His home---and you all just greedily want more, you want to be Him. Not going to happen.
 
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Jesus, God, and/or the Holy Ghost are mentioned over 5,000 times in the Book of Mormon.

You can name them 10,000 times---it's still not the same Father, Son or Holy Spirit.
 
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You can name them 10,000 times---it's still not the same Father, Son or Holy Spirit.
And I still know the difference between good and evil:

(Book of Mormon | Moroni 7:12 - 19)

12 Wherefore, all things which are good cometh of God; and that which is evil cometh of the devil; for the devil is an enemy unto God, and fighteth against him continually, and inviteth and enticeth to sin, and to do that which is evil continually.
13 But behold, that which is of God inviteth and enticeth to do good continually; wherefore, every thing which inviteth and enticeth to do good, and to love God, and to serve him, is inspired of God.
14 Wherefore, take heed, my beloved brethren, that ye do not judge that which is evil to be of God, or that which is good and of God to be of the devil.
15 For behold, my brethren, it is given unto you to judge, that ye may know good from evil; and the way to judge is as plain, that ye may know with a perfect knowledge, as the daylight is from the dark night.
16 For behold, the Spirit of Christ is given to every man, that he may know good from evil; wherefore, I show unto you the way to judge; for every thing which inviteth to do good, and to persuade to believe in Christ, is sent forth by the power and gift of Christ; wherefore ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of God.
17 But whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do evil, and believe not in Christ, and deny him, and serve not God, then ye may know with a perfect knowledge it is of the devil; for after this manner doth the devil work, for he persuadeth no man to do good, no, not one; neither do his angels; neither do they who subject themselves unto him.
18 And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the light by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.
19 Wherefore, I beseech of you, brethren, that ye should search diligently in the light of Christ that ye may know good from evil; and if ye will lay hold upon every good thing, and condemn it not, ye certainly will be a child of Christ.
 
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Outer darkness is only mentioned three times in the Bible However, there is one sure path to outer darkness, faith without works:

(New Testament | Matthew 25:29 - 40).
However, God revealed more than this. Therefore Mormonism's twisting of Scripture into suggesting that on those on the right are there because of their works is a lie.
 
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However, God revealed more than this. Therefore Mormonism's twisting of Scripture into suggesting that on those on the right are there because of their works is a lie.
The Bible does not lie. It is plain to see that the ones on the right are those who kept the commandments because they LOVED God and their neighbor. Those who LOVE Jesus Christ keep the commandments.
 
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The Bible does not lie. It is plain to see that the ones on the right are those who kept the commandments because they LOVED God and their neighbor. Those who LOVE Jesus Christ keep the commandments.
Never said the Bible lies … Mormonism's twisting of Scripture is the lie.

Biblical Christianity teaches that Christ's perfect keeping of the commandments is credited freely to those via faith and as such then we are declared perfect righteous and subsequently we will live with Heavenly Father.
 
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The Bible does not lie. It is plain to see that the ones on the right are those who kept the commandments because they LOVED God and their neighbor. Those who LOVE Jesus Christ keep the commandments.

You can not truly love whom you do not fully know. You do not know the Father, Son and Holy Spirit of the bible.
 
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You can not truly love whom you do not fully know. You do not know the Father, Son and Holy Spirit of the bible.
There is only one way to know God and that is to keep the commandments:

(New Testament | 1 John 2:4 - 6)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
 
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Never said the Bible lies … Mormonism's twisting of Scripture is the lie.

Biblical Christianity teaches that Christ's perfect keeping of the commandments is credited freely to those via faith and as such then we are declared perfect righteous and subsequently we will live with Heavenly Father.
We don't twist the scriptures, we understand them.:

(New Testament | John 17:2 - 3)

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

(New Testament | 1 John 2:4 - 6)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
 
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Nonsense, I made no such suggestion.
Mormonism is a false door that leads to outer darkness simply because it's not Biblical Christianity.
What false door does a child of 8 walk through when they believe in Jesus of the bible that they are reading about, and have an experience with the baptism of the Holy Spirit that confirms that Jesus is their Savior and the Savior of all mankind through his atonement on the wooden cross?

How is that experience different from yours?
 
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What false door does a child of 8 walk through when they believe in Jesus of the bible that they are reading about, and have an experience with the baptism of the Holy Spirit that confirms that Jesus is their Savior and the Savior of all mankind through his atonement on the wooden cross?

How is that experience different from yours?
8 year olds and below in the lds church are taught more than what you state above. At least be honest about that. Sadly, my 6-year old nephew told me once his favorite book was the BoM.

So please, don't try to pretend that an lds 8-year old and any other Biblical Christian church 8-year old have remotely the same experience from which to draw from.
 
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We don't twist the scriptures, we understand them.:

(New Testament | John 17:2 - 3)

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

(New Testament | 1 John 2:4 - 6)

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness,​

One of the Biblical truths is that Jesus lived a perfect life, not just to give us an example of a godly life, but also to fulfill all righteousness for us. In other words, we can get the credit for his perfect life! That is why those of us will be on the right.

Mormonism not only twists the Scriptures … it teaches is a false gospel that sends to outer darkness and will cause God to banish every who even slightly trusts in their own self-righteous commandments keeping efforts from his sight. Why?

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all” (James 2:10)​

Every LDS' fate is outer darkness for being found guilty of breaking all the commandments.
 
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What false door does a child of 8 walk through when they believe in Jesus of the bible that they are reading about, and have an experience with the baptism of the Holy Spirit that confirms that Jesus is their Savior and the Savior of all mankind through his atonement on the wooden cross?

How is that experience different from yours?
What false door? … Mormonism's false door of climbing the ladder of LDS ordinances and covenants then to trust in one own's self righteousness (as you've stated elsewhere).
 
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Never said the Bible lies … Mormonism's twisting of Scripture is the lie.

Biblical Christianity teaches that Christ's perfect keeping of the commandments is credited freely to those via faith and as such then we are declared perfect righteous and subsequently we will live with Heavenly Father.
So instead of having to keep the commandments, which I know the bible says to do, you are going to rely on the righteousness of Jesus to be a substitute for your righteousness/unrighteousness, and subsequently you will live with Heavenly Father.

So when you stand before God at the judgement seat, you are going to say, see Jesus and his righteousness, ditto that for me, OK? Good luck with that approach.
 
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So instead of having to keep the commandments, which I know the bible says to do, you are going to rely on the righteousness of Jesus to be a substitute for your righteousness/unrighteousness, and subsequetly you will live with Heavenly Father.

So when you stand before God at the judgement seat, you are going to say, see Jesus and his righteousness, ditto thnat for me, OK? Good luck with that approach.

Are you kidding???

"And the Publican, standing afar off would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner"
 
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