Whites Need Not Apply

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Members of underrepresented minorities often find themselves isolated in professional settings: they may be the only African American, or Latinx, or Pacific Islander, etc., in their classroom or department, and that can lead to a feeling of wondering if you belong in this field, if maybe you should just give up and go somewhere else where you belong better. A conference like this gives these minority scholars a place where, just for a couple of days, they're seeing lots of faces that look like theirs, an encouraging reassurance that, yes, they belong in this field.

There are plenty of conferences dominated by white people. Let our ethnic-minority colleagues have a day once in a while where they get to be in charge.

This reasoning suggests the following. It is necessary, for a minority, say Hispanic, to avoid questioning whether they belong in a field, say philosophy, for the Hispanic philosopher to conduct an ethnic census and know there are other brown skinned philosophers. It is necessary, for a minority to experience reassurance they belong in a field, to see other brown faces.

Well, it seems that those aren’t necessary. Minorities feel they belong in a field precisely because they are a minority, a much needed brown spec of humanity in the middle of a white page of colleagues. Others believe they belong because they have the brain pan for the field.

Of course, it is unknown whether the minority pow wow was conceived to sooth the emotional frailties of minorities suffering from isolationism or of that is the objective. Regardless, your comment ignores the fact the method of this minority get together is racist.
 
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I can empathize with the desire of some minorities to only want to be around other minorities in certain life situations. Speaking as a woman, I think it's very comforting to be in a group of other women and talk about what we experience as women, without having the presence of men hanging around or having to deal with some disgruntled men interjecting their personal opinions on what they thinks women should or shouldn't do. I've attended several ladies only meetings and luncheons over the years and not one disgruntled man ever insisted that men should be allowed into the meetings or the luncheons. Not one man whined about discrimination against men because the meetings were for ladies only. There have also been men's only breakfast meetings and other fellowship gatherings for men and not one disgruntled woman whined about discrimination against women or insisted women should be allowed to attend the breakfast or the other fellowship gatherings designated for men.

Yeah but that is something different than what is presented in the OP.
 
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This is correct.

I work in Tech for a major Wall St. firm and within our company we do have these kinds of symposiums and events and seminars for certain underrepresented groups. Most underrepresented in Tech, at least where I work, are blacks and women. I think these events are a great step towards encouraging more from these underrepresented groups to become engaged in the Technology field, in any capacity. We have seen results, too, from these - so they do work. I've participated in several of these events for women - it is invaluable and I wouldn't have it any other way.

That may be true, but none of what you’ve said established Ploverwing’s comments as “correct.”
 
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Like I said before, government has decreed that only white males can be racist.

Racism requires power, minorities can be prejudiced against whites, but cannot be racist.
At the end of the day though both destroy the person. So maybe it's just semantics after all.
 
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Racism requires power, minorities can be prejudiced against whites, but cannot be racist.
At the end of the day though both destroy the person. So maybe it's just semantics after all.

Do you not even reconise how stupid that comment is?
 
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That may be true, but none of what you’ve said established Ploverwing’s comments as “correct.”
I'm providing what I know from my experience. What Ploverwing described is what I have encountered with my black and female coworkers. They have expressed exactly the same feelings that Ploverwing described. If you don't want to accept that to be factual then that's your prerogative. I know from my experience it's factual and that's why a large corporation like mine does these kinds of events all the time. Literally several a month.
 
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This Latinx stuff is really ridiculous. Sorry to harp on that, but I am old enough to remember when the 'progressive' thing to do in writing would be to use the @ symbol, i.e., Latin@, because it would include Latinos and Latinas -- in other words, men and women. The two categories of people that there are, and that everyone always recognized that there are. And this was only 20 years ago! I have the "anarchist punk" fanzines from back then (written all in Spanish) to prove it. That was the vanguard. The @ symbol, which is at least understandable if you know anything about Spanish grammar, unlike this "Latinx" idiocy.

And now the amorphous ever growing gender-blob is even attempting to take over entire languages which have their own developed systems of grammatical gender, which is not some kind of conspiracy to silence people who think that they are pansexual starfish or whatever. It's just how the language works, but these insane people can't handle it. What served human communication (y'know, the purpose of language...) perfectly fine since the creation of the Romance languages is now suddenly confining, and homophobic, and transphobic, and all of these other fake phobias.

How small of a minority does some group have to be before it becomes reasonable to point out how unreasonable their demands are? If I think I'm some kind of 17th gender from the planet Nibiru and you all have to address me as Royal Highness Cardinal Beachball, and my pronoun is Ɣ, which you now have to incorporate into your languages at your own cognitive, typological, and typographic expense whether or not it makes any sense that you do so, isn't that kinda on me? Why does anyone else have to do anything in response to that?

I'm sorry...I think I have to say it: I don't think everyone's feelings should be acknowledged all of the time. Or rather, you can acknowledge that they have those feelings and then you should be able to say you're done with this forever, without changing anything that you do. "Okay, you say you're Latin-x, whatever that is. That's not going to become part of my vocabulary, because that's not an actual part of the language. You just made that up, and nobody else needs to accept it. If that hurts your feelings, then it sounds like that's a problem for you and your feelings to deal with, far away from me. Goodbye."

Enough already.
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Whites need not apply: Campus sci-tech symposium to only feature scholars of color | The College Fix

An upcoming science and technology symposium slated to take place at Williams College promises a unique feature: it will showcase “new” voices in the field, and those voices will only come from scholars of color.

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call for papers specifies that means either “African Americans, Alaska Natives, Arab Americans, Asian Americans, Latinx, Native Americans, Native Hawaiians, and other Pacific Islanders.”

Part of the application process asked applicants to write a couple sentences proving themselves as a member of a “historically underrepresented group.” Yet the application also provides an equal employment opportunity statement that people from all backgrounds are welcome.


Somehow, I can't imagine the college having a symposium that requires the applicants be white. I can just hear the protesting.

Well, my hopes that racism in the early 2000s was finally on its way out was grossly and sadly mistaken.
 
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Well, my hopes that racism in the early 2000s was finally on its way out was grossly and sadly mistaken.

It's like war, only the dead have seen the last of it. I thought as well that it was on it's way out, but there seems to be rearing it's ugly head again. All we can do is pray.
 
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Do you not even reconise how stupid that comment is?
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Racism does require power, because it involves societal actions to segregate, and discriminate against the group. If you have no power to do these things, then you cannot be racist, it requires power, and it has to be at the societal level. However, not all whites individually are racist, and you can be white and hold prejudicial views about other groups, and not personally involve yourself in racist behavior. But racism cannot exist without the power to segregate, and discriminate against a group, and their is a lot to unpack when it comes to discrimination. Prejudice, though may be found in every person, and their views may mirror the racist, but at the societal level there is not much they can do because the simply lack the power.
 
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Whites need not apply: Campus sci-tech symposium to only feature scholars of color | The College Fix

An upcoming science and technology symposium slated to take place at Williams College promises a unique feature: it will showcase “new” voices in the field, and those voices will only come from scholars of color.

The
call for papers specifies that means either “African Americans, Alaska Natives, Arab Americans, Asian Americans, Latinx, Native Americans, Native Hawaiians, and other Pacific Islanders.”

Part of the application process asked applicants to write a couple sentences proving themselves as a member of a “historically underrepresented group.” Yet the application also provides an equal employment opportunity statement that people from all backgrounds are welcome.


Somehow, I can't imagine the college having a symposium that requires the applicants be white. I can just hear the protesting.

Can a private college legally discriminate against an entire race like that?

Obviously, it's disgusting and racist....I'm just surprised if it's not illegal as well.
 
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Racism does require power, because it involves societal actions to segregate, and discriminate against the group. If you have no power to do these things, then you cannot be racist, it requires power, and it has to be at the societal level. However, not all whites individually are racist, and you can be white and hold prejudicial views about other groups, and not personally involve yourself in racist behavior. But racism cannot exist without the power to segregate, and discriminate against a group, and their is a lot to unpack when it comes to discrimination. Prejudice, though may be found in every person, and their views may mirror the racist, but at the societal level there is not much they can do because the simply lack the power.

You could have saved all the keystrokes and just stated 'no'.
 
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No it hasn't
The courts, which are part of the government, have decreed that the 'white music awards' would be racist while the 'black music awards' are not. But please, feel free to keep ignoring that.
 
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Could the reason for this be that people of color were under represented in previous symposiums ? Just asking.

I'm sure that's the reason they're using to promote institutional racism.

Let's be honest though, they could just as easily promote the increased participation of non-whites without racially discriminating against whites. It's only necessary to exclude whites if....you're racist against whites.
 
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Us white people have such thin skins we can feel the prick before the pin even gets close.

The world will easily survive this symposium. And, quite frankly, so will white people even if we can't pass up any reason to whine.

Some of us believe racism is wrong in all its forms and call it out when we see it.

I understand that some people are comfortable with racism against whites....but they shouldn't get upset about people calling out institutional racism.
 
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I'm providing what I know from my experience. What Ploverwing described is what I have encountered with my black and female coworkers. They have expressed exactly the same feelings that Ploverwing described. If you don't want to accept that to be factual then that's your prerogative. I know from my experience it's factual and that's why a large corporation like mine does these kinds of events all the time. Literally several a month.

They have literally told you they feel as if they do not "belong" in their specific profession because they do not see other minorities in that specific profession. They have told you a lack of, essentially, non-whites has them feeling as if they do not "belong" in the profession. That is what they have told you specifically?

I have certainly encountered the sentiment from minorities that they wished other minorities were in their profession for the purpose of having some common denominator when it came to life experiences. A commonality in life experiences to discuss with others, a commonality of values, upbringing, beliefs, etcetera, they can share and discuss with other minorities, that whites and Caucasians relate less to or cannot relate to at all. I have heard them express a sense of not "belonging" on that basis, but I have yet to encounter someone say they do not belong in a specific profession because of a lack of encountering minorities in the same profession.
 
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Some of us believe racism is wrong in all its its forms and call it out when we see it.

I understand that some people are comfortable with racism against whites....but they shouldn't get upset about people calling out institutional racism.
Especially after all these decades of it. It's getting old and isn't scriptural
 
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