How Many Senate Republicans Would Vote For Impeachment In February 2021?

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The OP is asking what the vote to impeach might be, not what the case would be. People’s reasons for voting one way or another likely differ.

In January or February 2021, almost every Democrat would support a impeachment conviction in the Senate. How many Republicans would prefer to start a first term for Pence instead of a 2nd term for Trump?

And I simply asked "impeachment for WHAT?"

If there was a valid reason, say, turning the white house into a sex scandal etc, then I would agree. However, I see no valid reason. I see no convictions.

So, if there was a valid conviction, sure okay, otherwise, I see no reason for impeachment. Maybe the OP'er knew something I didn't? However, it seems the OP'er doesn't know since he just throws out cases that have already been concluded and nothing on Donald.
 
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Unless there's an actual reason ... the Senate will not convict.

Also, unless there's an actual reason ... the House will NOT even begin an impeachment inquiry, much less vote to impeach.
The OP Isn’t about conviction, simply asking what we know about votes to impeach.
 
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Oooookay. Still, you haven't mentioned ONE thing he was convicted on that gives valid reason for impeachment.

For example, the Muller thing democrats just can't let go of. If there was reason to convict, Muller would have done it. The FBI is clearly bias to go after donald. So if there were something to tie donald to, they would have done it.

Again, which VALID reason for an impeachment are we talking about? A actual conviction. They do not have one yet that I can see and know of.

The reason you dont have time to do it, is because there is no VALID conviction yet.

Edit: I thought this country runs on "innocent until proven guilty"? When did it become the other way around?
Oh dear - you are grossly misinformed. Convicted?
 
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In January or February 2021, almost every Democrat would support a impeachment conviction in the Senate. How many Republicans prefer to start a first term for Pence instead of a 2nd term for Trump?

Trump's cronies could do little to any Republican Senators until the 2022 primaries.

Although the words of Trump supporters nick away at my belief in the American people every day, I still believe there are enough voters who care enough about honesty, integrity and the common good to turn out in force and make sure that that he will never be elected. They were complacent in 2016 because, like me, they could hardly believe that anyone would vote for Trump. They started coming out in force in 2018.

The new sexual abuse allegations against Kavanagh will certainly turn suburban women against voting for Trump.

I look forward to 2020 as more and more people realize our democracy is worth voting for, worth volunteering for, worth fighting for...
 
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They were complacent in 2016 because, like me, they could hardly believe that anyone would vote for Trump.
Incorrect.

They voted for Trump because Hillary was an awful candidate.
The new sexual abuse allegations against Kavanagh will certainly turn suburban women against voting for Trump.
The new absurd allegations against Kavanaugh will likely backfire, just as the earlier absurd accusations did.
 
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Oh dear - you are grossly misinformed. Convicted?

Am I? Then why dont you enlighten me. Mark couldnt give me one reason. All he did was drudge up the same accusations that have already been flat lined.

And yes, convicted. Convicted comes after accusation. It is when you are found guilty of the accusation brought against you, thus convicted. It is from that conviction, that one would be impeached.

You dont impeach on accusations. You impeach off of convictions. Do you seriously not know this?
 
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In January or February 2021, almost every Democrat would support a impeachment conviction in the Senate. How many Republicans would prefer to start a first term for Pence instead of a 2nd term for Trump?
"Almost none" would be my guess. Romney, maybe.
 
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The Democrats are likely to win the popular vote again, increasing their vote in the states on both coasts. That is not enough to win a presidential election.

Although the words of Trump supporters nick away at my belief in the American people every day, I still believe there are enough voters who care enough about honesty, integrity and the common good to turn out in force and make sure that that he will never be elected. They were complacent in 2016 because, like me, they could hardly believe that anyone would vote for Trump. They started coming out in force in 2018.

The new sexual abuse allegations against Kavanagh will certainly turn suburban women against voting for Trump.

I look forward to 2020 as more and more people realize our democracy is worth voting for, worth volunteering for, worth fighting for...
 
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As it's been pointed out many times in the past, there was no conclusions by Mueller that any particular thing was done to warrant impeachment.
It's time to put the Mueller report to rest.
Mueller had no authority to decide, conclude or recommend anything about impeachment one way or the other and he did not do so.
 
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Mueller had no authority to decide, conclude or recommend anything about impeachment one way or the other and he did not do so.

He obviously had nothing clear-cut that anyone could point to and use as a tool to impeach Trump, even after the big investigation followed by an interview with Mueller himself to have him explain his own report to Congress. Otherwise, there would be more support for His impeachment. As it is, it's still an uphill battle, even among members of the opposing political party.
 
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Mueller had no authority to decide, conclude or recommend anything about impeachment one way or the other and he did not do so.
As Ken Starr aptly pointed out, Mueller had authority to decide whether or not prosecution of the president should proceed.

Mueller decided against prosecution on the matter of collusion.
Mueller left determination on obstruction to William Barr, who then decided against prosecution.
 
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He obviously had nothing clear-cut that anyone could point to and use as a tool to impeach Trump, even after the big investigation followed by an interview with Mueller himself to have him explain his own report to Congress. Otherwise, there would be more support for His impeachment. As it is, it's still an uphill battle, even among members of the opposing political party.
The reason there is no impeachment is House Democrats realize (or, at least, Nancy Pelosi realizes) that the Senate would not convict Trump for any reason.
 
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The reason there is no impeachment is House Democrats realize (or, at least, Nancy Pelosi realizes) that the Senate would not convict Trump for any reason.
Incorrect.

Democrats will not impeach because they have no evidence with which to convince the American voters. Without voter support, Democrats will be voted out in the next election, which they well may be anyway.
 
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The reason there is no impeachment is House Democrats realize (or, at least, Nancy Pelosi realizes) that the Senate would not convict Trump for any reason.

Don't forget that there are members of the House who are not democrats. Therefore, even though more than half of democrats have been convinced to be in favor of it, those who are not democrats tip the scale back in the direction of being against it.

Here's a good overview of how much support the House has for impeachment as a whole: House representatives who would vote for Trump impeachment: Our latest list
 
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The choice would be 4 years of Trump or 4 years of Pence.

The choice depends on whether the senator is part of the Republican Party before the summer of 2016, or a member of the Trump Republican Party.

Members of the establishment Republican Party from before Trump have 2 options.

1) If they were to vote to keep Trump in power in February of 2020, then the Republican Party would be a virtually new party by the time of the primaries for the 2024 election, compared to 2016. They would need to consider a third party or give up on their positions and goals that have served the party at least since 1980, foreign policy and military issues since WWII. Many will certainly decide to stay with Trump's new party.

Depending on what the Democrats do, there may be a strong opportunity for a viable centrist third party.

2) Should enough establishment Republicans (perhaps 1/2 of the Senators) decide to oust Trump, they would choosing to follow Pence and try to move the party to the traditional views of Republicanism. For example, I would think Cruz would prefer to run in 2024 after four years of Pence, rather than after 4 years of Trump; ditto for Scott or Rubio. Others would prefer to run for the Senate with Pence on the top of the ticket, instead of Trump or the Trumpian nominated in 2024.

Why would they impeach him when he's about to enter his second term?
 
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