We can avoid assuming or presuming God could only create a fully deterministic universe, could only create us as totally predetermined. He may have chosen a design that allows us not just an appearance of freedom but an actual freedom -- we might be by His design truly unpredictable. If He so chose. It seems to better fit scripture, which is full of commands to us as if we can choose.
It's instead a mystery, and this is a way scriptures could better fit together. My guess: I personally think the choices of individuals would be generally predictable, mostly.
You need, like me or anyone, to read this wonderful psalm really through, all of it (really!), and then we better have the sense of it. And it helps to have read other psalms and know that David often used hyperboles in his psalms (the hyperboles are of course helping point us to the truth but are still hyperboles, and thus that broader reading is entirely needed). When you read through the entire psalm, then you will see the last 2 verses, and they help us get the entire psalm.
This is all a very deep mystery, as it involves things (in my view) such as 'what is consciousness' and 'what is spirit' -- it is as deep as mysteries ever get so far as I know so far.
That's not what I said above. Please tell me if my posts are too lengthy.
Doesn't the behavior of individual molecules determine the behavior of the group of molecules in the gas? So how can you separate the predictability of the part and the whole?You need, like me or anyone, to read this wonderful psalm really through, all of it (really!), and then we better have the sense of it. And it helps to have read other psalms and know that David often used hyperboles in his psalms (the hyperboles are of course helping point us to the truth but are still hyperboles, and thus that broader reading is entirely needed). When you read through the entire psalm, then you will see the last 2 verses, and they help us get the entire psalm.
Psalm 139 NIV
For those still not convinced there is hyperbole and poetic wording (which speak to the essential truth), consider:
Psalm 139:15 My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in secret, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
Does this mean that babies are actually made underground and then teleported into their mother's wombs? Of course not. It's poetic. It's also true in essence. You just have to listen to the entire psalm and not quit before those last 2 central, key, verses.
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Ok? So, the answer is in my best guess 'yes -- generally God knows what we are going to say even before we say it'. This isn't the same as a totally deterministic life though! You also kinda know that it's going to rain just before it does, if you look up at the sky and notice the cool moist breeze that just hit you before the rain.
How much better can He see us and know us than even we know ourselves!
That still doesn't at all mean He designed us to be totally predictable in every last moment though.
You need, like me or anyone, to read this wonderful psalm really through, all of it (really!), and then we better have the sense of it. And it helps to have read other psalms and know that David often used hyperboles in his psalms (the hyperboles are of course helping point us to the truth but are still hyperboles, and thus that broader reading is entirely needed). When you read through the entire psalm, then you will see the last 2 verses, and they help us get the entire psalm.
Psalm 139 NIV
For those still not convinced there is hyperbole and poetic wording (which speak to the essential truth), consider:
Psalm 139:15 My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in secret, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
Does this mean that babies are actually made underground and then teleported into their mother's wombs? Of course not. It's poetic. It's also true in essence. You just have to listen to the entire psalm and not quit before those last 2 central, key, verses.
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Ok? So, the answer is in my best guess 'yes -- generally God knows what we are going to say even before we say it'. This isn't the same as a totally deterministic life though! You also kinda know that it's going to rain just before it does, if you look up at the sky and notice the cool moist breeze that just hit you before the rain.
How much better can He see us and know us than even we know ourselves!
That still doesn't at all mean He designed us to be totally predictable in every last moment though.
It took me a few minutes, but I think now that you simply did not read the post through fully that you responded to.
Well I gave that above, but maybe too long a post (sorry!)
God did not create most people we create people .
Is Quantum mechanics about unpredictability of humans or God?
Do humans create or procreate? Are humans instruments or sovereign?
Do you mean to say Psalms 139:4 is not truth about God knowing our choices beforehand?
