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What I'm interested in, first and foremost, is the safety of the OP and her infant son. That is more important than the "consequences for the marriage." Nobody should ever be encouraged to stay in a situation where they're being abused.
Paidiske I can’t remember the children ever being harmed by the husband in any way at all. But now you have added that to his list of potential crimes as well. Ok if you want to see a marriage desolved by one mere infringement according to the laws of the land I’m sure there are many that will happily help you with that. Just not me.
 
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Being a witness to domestic violence is traumatic and harmful to children.

I'm not saying the marriage should be dissolved; I'm saying that the absence of abuse should be a prerequisite for it continuing. Since the OP has not updated us, we don't know how things have progressed since that first incident.
 
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Being a witness to domestic violence is traumatic and harmful to children.

I'm not saying the marriage should be dissolved; I'm saying that the absence of abuse should be a prerequisite for it continuing. Since the OP has not updated us, we don't know how things have progressed since that first incident.
Yes the OP never did update to let us know how things were going. I guess we can only hope that’s things improved. Yes I agree any sort of volience is always most revolting and appalling to look apon. Especially when done for no other reason than to empower, control, shame and hurt others willingly. The depths of human depravity and what it is capable of I have yet to comprehend maybe I never will. Paidiske you do have a nice day tomorrow. God Bless
 
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Being a witness to domestic violence is traumatic and harmful to children.
As one who witnessed it first hand as a 7 year old, I will 100% agree with that statement.
 
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Paidiske I can’t remember the children ever being harmed by the husband in any way at all. But now you have added that to his list of potential crimes as well. Ok if you want to see a marriage desolved by one mere infringement according to the laws of the land I’m sure there are many that will happily help you with that. Just not me.

My mother was a child of domestic violence, and it's a shame that people don't recognize the damage it can do to the witnesses. It can have lifelong effects. I always wondered what was up with her from time to time, and it wasn't until I was adult that she shared her experiences. She was lucky she didn't continue the cycle with her marriage. Domestic Violence is learned behavior in most cases. The child can marry and abuse, or be the victim - either gender is capable.

It starts with breaking the person down, and then the physical part tends to follow. That is harm to the child to witness as well. Unless of course you like to minimize that part. Then you just like denial more than reality.

One incident can lead to another if not dealt with. The money issue is another red flag. There are dangerous dynamics here, and denial of those facts won't help anyone. Claiming that child wasn't harmed when he/she was scared to death over that circumstance, and you rush to judge someone feeling that dissolvement of the relationship is all their interested in? No offense claiming no serious flaws isn't helping anyone in that relationship. Certainly not the one you're defending. You are just enabling it to continue.

People can learn to recognize their own unhealthy behaviors, and make sure - with time and counseling - it doesn't happen again. If God is #1 in your life? That's a no brainer. Your minimizing opinions only enable to continue when you refuse to see the other factors. Assault is a crime, and why the police were involved. You want to make excuses for putting hands on someone? Do it with your own relationship. Assault is the first hint that the couple needs help, and not claims of no harm which is ridiculous. You nip it the bud immediately unless of course you have some magical crystal ball that see into the future that says it's a one time thing. Chances are that's a no. Controlling behavior - as you quoted yourself - isn't healthy by any means. It's unnecessary and abusive. It causes more harm than any good that can come in life, and it certainly does no good to the one that needs to be addressed. They need help - separately at first and if things go well - together. A child's future is at risk.
 
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My husband and I have been married for 3 years and we have 2 children. We are not your typical couple, as he is 56 and I am 30. So, I tend to say we were “destined to fail.”

We are extremely different people, who happened to have the “important things” (as we call them) in common. We are Christians and our relationships with God are #1. We also tend to parent pretty well together and generally see eye to eye in that part of our life.

However, my husband is very controlling. He is a Physicians Assistant while I am a stay at home mom. Therefore, money is always the main argument. He makes it while I tend to spend it, (whether that be doing the grocery shopping, things for the kids, or personal). He has always referred to the money as “his.” In his own words, this is because he works for it. Yet, when we are not fighting, he will apologize for this and talk up all the “work” that I do at home for him and for our children.

A couple months ago, our marriage went to a place that I never expected. He put his hands on me for the first time. We are currently building a home and tend to get in some heated discussions over different aspects of the process. During one of our arguments, I threatened divorce and reached to get our son out of his arms. His reaction to that was to put both of his hands around my neck in an attempt to choke me. We were both shocked, and he let go pretty quickly, as if he suddenly came back to reality and realized what he was doing. I was at a loss, and before clearing my head of the situation, I called the cops. He was arrested. Mind you, neither of us have any criminal history whatsoever. I regretted my call immediately. I was sure he would lose his job, as well as his 30 year military career. Though, thank God, neither happened.

Tonight we fought because he came home to see I had taken a piece of accent furniture out of the house to put towards our yard sale pile. This was an unused piece of furniture that I purchased and decorated with. I decided I didn’t want it in the space anymore, nor did I want it going to our new construction once we move in, so I took it out of the house. He was angry. Over a table. That was never used. I stayed quiet until the kids went to bed, but the more
I thought about the situation, the more I feel that he is only mad because he didn’t have control over it. Once the kids were asleep, I asked why he was so upset by what seemed to me like such an insignificant thing, he said it was because I didn’t ask him if I could take the table out.

These fights happen constantly and I’m so ready to just give up on our marriage. Literally, the only reason I have stayed this long, is for the kids. I truly don’t know what to do, or how to fix such a broken relationship.
If I've got this right, you're on the lower spectrum of Baby Boomers and your husband is about mid-spectrum Millennial.

I mean this in a nice way but I'm a little surprised that you don't have many more disagreements.

I cannot in good conscience advise you to seek a divorce. And yet, he did lay hands on you in a pretty serious way. That's a big warning sign, I think. It could be that tempers flared up and it was a one-time thing. Strange things happen sometimes between married couples. Believe me, I understand.

Still, your physical safety could become an issue. I'd say the best thing to do would be to give him a very serious warning about this. Choose a time when you're both perfectly calm and there is no drama going on.

An argument is one thing but physical force is simply a bridge too far. He cannot be allowed to lose control of his anger like that again.

If he does get physical with you again, well, you must see to your safety. Under no circumstances can married couples be physically abusive with one another. It's really that simple.
 
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Paidiske I can’t remember the children ever being harmed by the husband in any way at all. But now you have added that to his list of potential crimes as well. Ok if you want to see a marriage desolved by one mere infringement according to the laws of the land I’m sure there are many that will happily help you with that. Just not me.

I am not sure how your laws work but here domestic violence is considered child abuse. Children grow up to imitate it. Typically both spouses deal with emotional issues by verbally and then physically assaulting the other. The fault is usually with both of them. There is the stereotype of men coming home and randomly beating up their wife because he had a bad day. There is also a reality where men come home and are verbally assaulted and slapped by their wives who want to get hit.

Having stated that, it is a complicated issue, but a person that even tolerates abuse from their spouse is abusing their children by allowing it to be exposed.

The person that created this topic is clearly in an abusive, controlling, and manipulative relationship. She is married to someone twice her age who has convinced her that the marriage works: We are extremely different people, who happened to have the “important things” (as we call them) in common. We are Christians and our relationships with God are #1. We also tend to parent pretty well together and generally see eye to eye in that part of our life.

Most Christians make God a priority in life and most people make children the priority in their life. The only person this marriage works for is her husband who is married to a woman old enough to be his daughter.

If she is still reading this - if you want help, you need to contact a woman's shelter or any group that deals with domestic violence. It's not for you - it is for your kids.
 
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I am not sure how your laws work but here domestic violence is considered child abuse. Children grow up to imitate it. Typically both spouses deal with emotional issues by verbally and then physically assaulting the other. The fault is usually with both of them. There is the stereotype of men coming home and randomly beating up their wife because he had a bad day. There is also a reality where men come home and are verbally assaulted and slapped by their wives who want to get hit.

Having stated that, it is a complicated issue, but a person that even tolerates abuse from their spouse is abusing their children by allowing it to be exposed.

The person that created this topic is clearly in an abusive, controlling, and manipulative relationship. She is married to someone twice her age who has convinced her that the marriage works: We are extremely different people, who happened to have the “important things” (as we call them) in common. We are Christians and our relationships with God are #1. We also tend to parent pretty well together and generally see eye to eye in that part of our life.

Most Christians make God a priority in life and most people make children the priority in their life. The only person this marriage works for is her husband who is married to a woman old enough to be his daughter.

If she is still reading this - if you want help, you need to contact a woman's shelter or any group that deals with domestic violence. It's not for you - it is for your kids.

I'm sorry Snoder, you are speaking into a world of philosophical, not practicality. There are no grounds for your statement that "The person that created this topic is clearly in an abusive, controlling, and manipulative relationship." That is beyond your pay grade. Firstly because it can never be lost that you only have the word of the person who writes the post and as the old adage goes, there's her side, his side then the truth. Next, even from that, you're basing your judgment on a single incident plus a squabble over a coffee table, hardly the grounds for clearly anything. While his actions were certainly very wrong(as were hers, just not on that level) assuming it's the truth, what's it serve her if it never happened again and they're still working on a marriage to tell her to escape to a secular woman's shelter many months after the fact? Don't you dare assume I'm minimizing what happened, I am not but you are speaking into a world you only have limited glimpse of and making bold statements - long after the fact not knowing where they are now...

Next your assertion that a person is abusing their children by tolerating abuse is extremely misguided. For many of the reasons I spoke of above but also because I have indeed seen people in abusive relationships who were psychologically in a very bad place, not thinking clearly and struggling. That judgment is reserved for the abuser, not the abusee. Yes certainly both parents are supposed to make every effort to shield their children from abuse however abuse is a complicated, traumatic thing to which you have no right to make such a generalized statement. I lived through it as a child with my mother who tolerated abuse for a time out of fear of her husband should she leave which was warranted, it took the right timing and sequence of events until she felt it was the opportune time to safely get way.

Lastly Christians Give their lives to God, follow God, not make Him A priority. Those who merely sometimes identify as one tend to make Him one of their priorities.

Hopefully Chelsey and her husband have found Christian counseling to speak into their lives. The outcome God is looking for is that both of them learn to submit to Him, Put Him and His ways first because they are indeed best and come together in seeking Him and they will find love for each other that transcends everything they know now.
 
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What a horribly rude thing to say.

I know there can be issues, but if a man EVER put hands on me to harm me, he would be in jail so fast his head would spin.

Good luck and God bless.

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I've met people where the wife screams at the top of her lungs non stop for hours at the husband. Swearing up a storm. After weeks of it he finally hits her. I mean people can only be pushed so far. Now does this make hitting a spouse ok? Not at all.

That said you guys need counseling for sure. You'd be surprised how many, in the heat of an argument, suddenly lose control and hurt someone. And for them it shocks them as well. That loss of control needs to be addressed. Because who knows what may happen next time control is lost.

I am not for divorce of course, though I do believe on moving out until the person gets help. If they don't get it then I leave it up to them to file a divorce.
 
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