Biblical view on Cannibalism

Brightmoon said:

why would you think that . Why would you make someone feel guilty about Eating a dead body that dies of natural causes , to save your own life?Survivor guilt will be a serious problem in a normal person then you’re going to make them feel as if they shouldn’t have survived and make that worse. I remember that horrific plane crash in the mountains and the subsequent desperation and how guilt ridden the survivors felt about eating their deceased friends and teammates. I thought about it then and decided that I would not feel guilty in the same situation because at that point the dead were worm food(honestly I’d be more scared of catching a disease from raw meat)

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Because I have a high respect for humans (even their bodies).

LaBèlla said:

That wasn’t from the Last Supper. It’s from John 6:52.

How are your replies to me in relation to this OP? Because that’s what I’m responding to and he isn’t speaking symbolically.

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He explains what his blood is at the Last Supper. His life given on the Cross for our sins. Anyone who believes and is saved will "digest that truth" when they become saved. Hence, they will drink his blood.

What he spoke about in John 6:52? That left everyone hanging, confused, and wondering what he was talking about. Even his disciples were confused, but they knew Jesus well enough not to over react like the "work crazed seekers" who had been looking for a work to do to be saved. Jesus does not explain what his blood was in John 6:52, other than it was spiritual, not a literal physical blood from his body to drink.

martymonster said:

Christ had to be fully human, otherwise he wouldn't be able to identify with us.

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He made Himself to be fully human (Philipns 2:6-8).

He is also fully God. Not just fully man.

Just clarifying for those who might not see Jesus as also God.

David Cabrera said:

I feel that it could be an necessary evil that would require confession anyways.

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There is no such thing as a "necessary evil" for an individual human being. Is it absolutely necessary to survive this temporal life?

Bro. Dave Gardner said:

There is no such thing as a "necessary evil" for an individual human being. Is it absolutely necessary to survive this temporal life?

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If God wants you to live? Yes. At one point Paul preferred to be in Heaven, but knew he had to remain on earth for the sake of those who needed his teaching.

Bro. Dave Gardner said:

There is no such thing as a "necessary evil" for an individual human being. Is it absolutely necessary to survive this temporal life?

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All evil is necessary.

AlexDTX said:

I've heard this before with other documents. Snopes says this often. Such statements & claims are meaningless. Believe what you want. I found the book valuable.

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genez said:

Its a pseudo refutation. Its what one tries when he has nothing substantial to say...

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Hislop's methodology (if you could call it that) has been thoroughly torn to shreds many times on these forums, but since I doubt either of you will bother searching for the references in past threads, I'll simply provide a link to an article written by Ralph Woodrow, who originally wrote a book titled "Babylon Mystery Religion" which he based on Hislop's work, and which he eventually withdrew after realising that pretty much all of Hislop's claims were bunk.

https://www.equip.org/article/the-two-babylons/

His book had proved to be immensely popular, so withdrawing it meant the loss of substantial income for the author, however he knew that as a Christian he could not continue to profit from perpetuating falsehood.

genez said:

First of all.... When the disciples ate the last supper? And, were told to drink his blood? If they thought for one second he indicated his literal blood? There would have been loud howls of protest. For it was highly forbidden... with the penalty of death... for any Jew to eat blood.

It would not have been taken matter-of-factly like they had because they understood the ritual symbolism. For the foods of the Passover meal were all symbolic of some reality that took place in the Exodus. They even had one dish to represent the mortar used in laying the bricks.

Jesus was simply following the protocol of having symbolism for the Passover.

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So the symbolism of the Passover was... eating people and drinking their blood?

Bro. Dave Gardner said:

There is no such thing as a "necessary evil" for an individual human being. Is it absolutely necessary to survive this temporal life?

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If that wasn't the case then we wouldn't go to war.

Emmylouwho said:

So the symbolism of the Passover was... eating people and drinking their blood?

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Come back later, please. After you can show me where I indicated that to be so. Copy and paste will be most helpful.

I cannot follow this thread anymore. I'm out.

David Cabrera said:

If that wasn't the case then we wouldn't go to war.

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That is why I was careful to specify "for an individual human being."

martymonster said:

All evil is necessary.

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Scripture, please.

genez said:

If God wants you to live? Yes. At one point Paul preferred to be in Heaven, but knew he had to remain on earth for the sake of those who needed his teaching.

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It is inherently not evil if God commands it.

Bro. Dave Gardner said:

Scripture, please.

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Ecc 1:13 And I set my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all that has been done under the heavens; this evil task Elohim has given to the sons of man, to be humbled by it.

Gen 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not: for am I in the place of God?
Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.

Amo 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

Job 2:10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

1Sa 16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.
1Sa 16:15 And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee.

Joh 9:2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
Joh 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

1Co 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Mat 4:1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Joh 13:26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
Joh 13:27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

There are probably others too, which I can't remember right now.

prodromos said:

Hislop's methodology (if you could call it that) has been thoroughly torn to shreds many times on these forums, but since I doubt either of you will bother searching for the references in past threads, I'll simply provide a link to an article written by Ralph Woodrow, who originally wrote a book titled "Babylon Mystery Religion" which he based on Hislop's work, and which he eventually withdrew after realising that pretty much all of Hislop's claims were bunk.

https://www.equip.org/article/the-two-babylons/

His book had proved to be immensely popular, so withdrawing it meant the loss of substantial income for the author, however he knew that as a Christian he could not continue to profit from perpetuating falsehood.

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Christian Research Institute is clearly an academic, natural thinking organization. When it comes to God, I am more impressed with people who are sensitive to the Holy Spirit.

Once again, these are the opinions of people. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one and they usually have a couple of holes in them.

You made your statement. It does not change my mind regarding the text. However, cheer up. There may be others you might have persuaded.

I always am leery of people with agendas. The OP is on cannibalism. Your comment has nothing to do with the OP. You are jumping on discrediting a work. Why? Are you refuting that etymology of the word "cannibal" offered by Hislop? Someone else did, too. And if the etymology is wrong, are you refuting the practice of the Baal priests in eating the human sacrifices they killed?

Your comment is useless and irrelevant. All that does is demean my opinion of you.

AlexDTX said:

Christian Research Institute is clearly an academic, natural thinking organization. When it comes to God, I am more impressed with people who are sensitive to the Holy Spirit.

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Ralph Woodrow has nothing to do with the CRI which posted his article, and people who are sensitive to the Holy Spirit are not easily misled by falsehoods such as Hislop's work.

Once again, these are the opinions of people. Opinions are like noses, everyone has one and they usually have a couple of holes in them.

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Your opinion (and its holes) is noted.

You made your statement. It does not change my mind regarding the text. However, cheer up. There may be others you might have persuaded.

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I still hold hope for you.

I always am leery of people with agendas. The OP is on cannibalism. Your comment has nothing to do with the OP. You are jumping on discrediting a work. Why?

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Because the work in question has no credibility, and as long as people use it as a reference (whatever the subject happens to be), there needs to be a response to raise awareness.

Are you refuting that etymology of the word "cannibal" offered by Hislop?

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Absolutely. All you have to do is search the etymology of the word to confirm that Hislop was writing fiction. Will you do that though, or does the spirit lead you to reject the science of historical linguistics as too "academic, and natural thinking"?

Someone else did, too. And if the etymology is wrong, are you refuting the practice of the Baal priests in eating the human sacrifices they killed?

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I've never read any source that claims the Baal priests ate their human sacrifices. If Hislop claims they did, I doubt any of his sources back him up.

Your comment is useless and irrelevant.

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Your opinion is noted.

All that does is demean my opinion of you.

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Fortunately, your opinion decreases in value the more you defend Hislop's falsehoods.

friend of said:

If people can provide where it says explicitly in scripture not to eat another man post it here. Thanks!

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Would you do it...? If it was that... or die?

I doubt that even 99.99999999% of us would ever be in that situation. Ever.

genez said:

Come back later, please. After you can show me where I indicated that to be so. Copy and paste will be most helpful.

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Jesus was simply following the protocol of having symbolism for the Passover.

prodromos said:

Your opinion is noted.

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And so is yours. My opinion decreasing in value from your side does not matter to me. As I said, you went off topic. A simple statement that you believe the book is bunk, therefore you do not agree with the definition is all that was needed. Instead you are goading me and flaming me with your insistence.