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What does a spirit look like? The disciples knew.:

(New Testament | Matthew 14:26)

26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.

(New Testament | Mark 6:49)

49 But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:

(New Testament | Luke 24:37)

37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

Well, it wasn't.
 
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Well, it wasn't.
Angels are spirits:

(New Testament | Hebrews 1:13 - 14)

13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

And we know that angels have a form.
 
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What does a spirit look like? The disciples knew.:

(New Testament | Matthew 14:26)

26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.

(New Testament | Mark 6:49)

49 But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:

(New Testament | Luke 24:37)

37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
So you are right, according to the bible and the apostles of Jesus Christ, we know what the spirit looks like. Thank you.
 
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Angels are spirits:

(New Testament | Hebrews 1:13 - 14)

13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?
14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

And we know that angels have a form.
So we know what ministering spirits are like---angels. And they can appear in human form. And if we see them as they are, we fall flat on our faces in terror. And? That in no way translates to --we existed before being born!
 
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So we know what ministering spirits are like---angels. And they can appear in human form. And if we see them as they are, we fall flat on our faces in terror. And? That in no way translates to --we existed before being born!
Jesus is our brother and we know He existed before He was born.

(New Testament | Matthew 23:8)

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

All of the hosts of the earth were pre-existant:

(Old Testament | Genesis 2:1)

1 THUS the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
 
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Well, it wasn't.
So, what was important is they thought it was, and so they give us an idea what they thought a spirit looked like. Just like a human man.

Was Gabriel a spirit, yes, looked like a human man.
Is satan a spirit, yes, he has been seen and looked like a human man by A&E and Jesus and others.
Is Jesus just a spirit, no. Ask his apostles.
Is God the Father just a spirit, no. Ask Jacob who wrestled with Him.
Is God the Father just a spirit, no. Ask Moses who was lifted into a crevice of a rock by God and then saw his back parts as He went by.
Is God the Father just a spirit, no. Ask Abraham, who watched Him eat food that he prepared for Him.
 
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Jesus is our brother and we know He existed before He was born.

(New Testament | Matthew 23:8)

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

All of the hosts of the earth were pre-existant:

(Old Testament | Genesis 2:1)

1 THUS the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Of course He did---He is and always was--God! He is our brother through His humanity only, we do not share His divinity. Your verse does not in any way state that we existed before being born. All the host of them does not translate to existed before being born!
 
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So, what was important is they thought it was, and so they give us an idea what they thought a spirit looked like. Just like a human man.

Was Gabriel a spirit, yes, looked like a human man.
Is satan a spirit, yes, he has been seen and looked like a human man by A&E and Jesus and others.
Is Jesus just a spirit, no. Ask his apostles.
Is God the Father just a spirit, no. Ask Jacob who wrestled with Him.
Is God the Father just a spirit, no. Ask Moses who was lifted into a crevice of a rock by God and then saw his back parts as He went by.
Is God the Father just a spirit, no. Ask Abraham, who watched Him eat food that he prepared for Him.


Satan looked like a serpent, and no serpent that we know of today. Jesus is the one that was in the OT. And angels can appear as anything, and so can evil ones. Very few have actually seen even an angel unveiled---so no---we don't know what angels look like. No one has seen the Father and the Holy Spirit either. Cherubim's are described as having 4 faces and have hoofs and 4 wings. Jesus is now a glorified human, though still divine---we never will be divine. We will not see what the true angels, evil or not, until the resurrection and we see clearly. They are mostly veiled for now.
 
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Of course He did---He is and always was--God! He is our brother through His humanity only, we do not share His divinity. Your verse does not in any way state that we existed before being born. All the host of them does not translate to existed before being born!
No He is our brother. I believe Jesus Christ:

(New Testament | John 20:17)

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

(New Testament | Matthew 25:40)

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

(New Testament | 2 Peter 1:4)

4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Jesus also said that we are Gods:

(New Testament | John 10:34 - 35)

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

You said: "He is our brother through His humanity only, we do not share His divinity"

There is not one scripture to back this up. It is false doctrine.

(New Testament | John 17:20 - 23)

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
 
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No He is our brother. I believe Jesus Christ:

(New Testament | John 20:17)

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

(New Testament | Matthew 25:40)

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

(New Testament | 2 Peter 1:4)

4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Jesus also said that we are Gods:

(New Testament | John 10:34 - 35)

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;

You said: "He is our brother through His humanity only, we do not share His divinity"

There is not one scripture to back this up. It is false doctrine.

(New Testament | John 17:20 - 23)

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

The false doctrine is yours for Jesus was always God. He is divine--the scriptures back that up---we are not, the scriptures back that up. You have no right to say anything is false doctrine for you serve other gods and a false prophet and your doctrines are not of God---your opinion on the matter has no value.
We are brothers through His humanity only. We are adopted children of God---natural children need no adoption. Jesus is God's only natural child. You have been taught lies. The truth is so much more glorious.
 
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The false doctrine is yours for Jesus was always God. He is divine--the scriptures back that up---we are not, the scriptures back that up. You have no right to say anything is false doctrine for you serve other gods and a false prophet and your doctrines are not of God---your opinion on the matter has no value.
We are brothers through His humanity only. We are adopted children of God---natural children need no adoption. Jesus is God's only natural child. You have been taught lies. The truth is so much more glorious.
I don't reject Christs' teachings, but there are those who do. I have every right to believe in Jesus Christ and believe His sayings:

(New Testament | John 5:22 - 32)

22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
32 ¶ There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

We are all sons and daughters of God, but we can lose lose our place:

(New Testament | Hebrews 12:6 - 16)

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

Therefore do not sell your birthright.
 
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I don't reject Christs' teachings, but there are those who do. I have every right to believe in Jesus Christ and believe His sayings:

(New Testament | John 5:22 - 32)

22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
32 ¶ There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.

We are all sons and daughters of God, but we can lose lose our place:

(New Testament | Hebrews 12:6 - 16)

6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
14 Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
16 Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.

Therefore do not sell your birthright.

But you do not believe in the Jesus Christ of the bible. You do not believe in the only Son of God the Father who had no grandfather and no mother. You do not believe in the Jesus that created all things from nothing and created Lucifer and is therefore not His brother. You can quote all you want---you do not believe in the Jesus Christ that saves from sin throughout the whole universe forever---your Jesus only saves from sin on this planet, those who become god of another planet have to have a savior from sin from that planet. You gold and you Jesus are just one of many other true gods, they are only the gods of this planet----YOU DO NOT SERVE THE ONE TRUE, ONLY REAL GOD.
 
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The false doctrine is yours for Jesus was always God. He is divine--the scriptures back that up---we are not, the scriptures back that up. You have no right to say anything is false doctrine for you serve other gods and a false prophet and your doctrines are not of God---your opinion on the matter has no value.
We are brothers through His humanity only. We are adopted children of God---natural children need no adoption. Jesus is God's only natural child. You have been taught lies. The truth is so much more glorious.
If we are natural children to God, why must we be adopted? Here is the reason.

Here on earth, the natural children need to separate themselves. Those who would believe and be engaged in the work of Jesus Christ. And those that would not. Those that did, would be formally adopted into the household of Jesus Christ, and become heirs of alll that the Father has, and live forever with God and Jesus in their kingdom. Those that chooe not to, will be immortal, but will not be heirs of all that the Father has, and will not live in the same place as God and Jesus.

So the adoption is just a separation of the natural children into the sheep and the goats. Those who feed and clothe and take care of the poor, visit those in prison, take care of the sick, etc., etc., etc. (the Law of Christ-Galations 6:2) will be recognized as the sheep of God and will be formally adopted into the household of Jesus Christ. Those who do not these things will be recognized as the goats and have no promise.

So now that you are separated, the adopted children to the household of Christ will be given everything the Christ has. The nature of a formal adoption is that the adopted child has the same rights as the natural children have. As an heir, the adopted child receives all that the natural children receive. So that is why the scripture says that we, as children of God, will be joint-heirs with Jesus in all that he receives from the Father. That includes the Father's divinity. We will share in that divinity, and become like God, just as children grow up and become like their fathers, in every aspect.
 
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But you do not believe in the Jesus Christ of the bible. You do not believe in the only Son of God the Father who had no grandfather and no mother. You do not believe in the Jesus that created all things from nothing and created Lucifer and is therefore not His brother. You can quote all you want---you do not believe in the Jesus Christ that saves from sin throughout the whole universe forever---your Jesus only saves from sin on this planet, those who become god of another planet have to have a savior from sin from that planet. You gold and you Jesus are just one of many other true gods, they are only the gods of this planet----YOU DO NOT SERVE THE ONE TRUE, ONLY REAL GOD.
You are right in that I do not believe in these extra Biblical teachings. The Bible does not teach that the Jesus Christ was the only Son of God the Father, it states that He is the only begotten of the Father. He does not have an earthly father. However in many places the Bible states that we are children of God the Father. Here is one:

(New Testament | Matthew 23:8 - 9)

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Does the Bible state that the earth was created out of nothing? Nope:

(Old Testament | Proverbs 26:10)

10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.

You said: "you do not believe in the Jesus Christ that saves from sin throughout the whole universe forever---your Jesus only saves from sin on this planet, those who become god of another planet have to have a savior from sin from that planet."

Someone must have made that up, it is not what we believe.

We do LOVE God:

(Old Testament | Deuteronomy 5:10)

10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

(New Testament | John 14:21)

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
 
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The one and only LORD God, revealed Himself to Abraham, gave man the God-breathed scriptures i.e. the canon of 66 books, we call His written word and revealed Himself also through the living word, His son Christ Jesus. The false prophets, false teachers & deceived twist the scriptures or adds to them as the cult of Mormonism does. Funny for any one to not congratulate Phoebe of her testimony that through her seeking Truth, the Holy Spirit lead her out of the cult of Mormonism to become a true believer & follower of Jesus Christ. We should have a burden for the unsaved & deceived to give them the one true gospel of Jesus. Those who follow a false gospel, no matter how "spiritual" they think they are or sound, will not find themselves saved, born again citizens of heaven with Christ Jesus as their Lord, but will be punished with the wicked, and this is the disturbing truth according to the scriptures.

Actually there are 73 books in the canonized scriptures. That is unless you believe they were canonized in the 16th century.
 
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If we are natural children to God, why must we be adopted? Here is the reason.

Here on earth, the natural children need to separate themselves. Those who would believe and be engaged in the work of Jesus Christ. And those that would not. Those that did, would be formally adopted into the household of Jesus Christ, and become heirs of alll that the Father has, and live forever with God and Jesus in their kingdom. Those that chooe not to, will be immortal, but will not be heirs of all that the Father has, and will not live in the same place as God and Jesus.

So the adoption is just a separation of the natural children into the sheep and the goats. Those who feed and clothe and take care of the poor, visit those in prison, take care of the sick, etc., etc., etc. (the Law of Christ-Galations 6:2) will be recognized as the sheep of God and will be formally adopted into the household of Jesus Christ. Those who do not these things will be recognized as the goats and have no promise.

So now that you are separated, the adopted children to the household of Christ will be given everything the Christ has. The nature of a formal adoption is that the adopted child has the same rights as the natural children have. As an heir, the adopted child receives all that the natural children receive. So that is why the scripture says that we, as children of God, will be joint-heirs with Jesus in all that he receives from the Father. That includes the Father's divinity. We will share in that divinity, and become like God, just as children grow up and become like their fathers, in every aspect.



Natural children do not need to be adopted!! They can be totally alienated from the parents---for over 30 years, even and when they reunite---no adoption is needed! The prodigal son needed no adoption.
I needed no adoption despite being away from my bith mother for over 10 years---I was estranged from my father and stepmother for over 30 years, when we reunited---no adoption needed, I was in the will. My brothers were also mostly estranged from them---they were in the will also---all of us joint heirs, no adoption needed! This is a totally bogus idea that natural children need adoption, they do not,
in fact, I know of one family who never saw their children again after they turned 15---the children were not around until after they died---they were still their children and in the will. In fact, women who have given their children up for adoption can be reunited with their children more than 60 years later and are still their children. You see it in the internet all the time!
 
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You are right in that I do not believe in these extra Biblical teachings. The Bible does not teach that the Jesus Christ was the only Son of God the Father, it states that He is the only begotten of the Father. He does not have an earthly father. However in many places the Bible states that we are children of God the Father. Here is one:

(New Testament | Matthew 23:8 - 9)

8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Does the Bible state that the earth was created out of nothing? Nope:

(Old Testament | Proverbs 26:10)

10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the fool, and rewardeth transgressors.

You said: "you do not believe in the Jesus Christ that saves from sin throughout the whole universe forever---your Jesus only saves from sin on this planet, those who become god of another planet have to have a savior from sin from that planet."

Someone must have made that up, it is not what we believe.

We do LOVE God:

(Old Testament | Deuteronomy 5:10)

10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

(New Testament | John 14:21)

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

It is entirely biblical--it is JS theories that are not biblical. You do not know the real Father, Son and Holy Spirit and they will not know you. He isn't your God, you will not be His child, you will not be adopted for you are the child of the god of JS and as such can not enter into His presence.
 
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It is entirely biblical--it is JS theories that are not biblical. You do not know the real Father, Son and Holy Spirit and they will not know you. He isn't your God, you will not be His child, you will not be adopted for you are the child of the god of JS and as such can not enter into His presence.
So are you going to post those scriptures?
 
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So are you going to post those scriptures?

Seriously? You've been given them over and over, and you refuse to accept them. You have no biblical support for you theories. It is based on twisted scriptures and false interpretations of words. We've been over this many times. We are adopted---no natural child ever needs to be adopted.
 
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