No criminal activity by Comey.

Biblewriter said:

yes, I read it. And the only crimes it even implied in connection with either the Trump Campaign or the Trump Administration were were allegations of possible obstruction.

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Obstruction is a crime.
This type of report can only allege "possible" obstruction. I have serious doubts that you read the report and I don't think you have a basic understanding of law.

And for obstruction to be criminal, there has to be an underlying crime.

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No, obstructing justice is a crime. The underlying crime is obstructing justice.

And the report admitted that the investigators had found zero evidence of an underlying crime.

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The report did not admit that they found "zero evidence of an underlying crime."

Albion said:

Maybe you didn't hear, but after two years and over thirty million wasted dollars, all those Democrat lawyers found NO wrongdoing on the part of the President.

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They can't find "wrongdoing." Only a court can make a decision based on a lack of reasonable doubt or on the basis of the preponderance of evidence for an individual or entity.

The reports are a submission of evidence and the President would need to be impeached by the house. It is then up to the Republican Senate.

In other words, a government agency might send people to investigate something, who produce a report, and then the agency determines whether or not to proceed with charges. Many agencies do not immediately bring up charges against someone based on initial reports. In the American legal system you are not allowed to put a person on trial for the same charges twice.

After an investigation you must consider if the evidence is enough to establish guilt or if there is the potential for future evidence. In this case they also know the jury and that is the Republican held house.

Yarddog said:

They did find evidence of criminal activity. Russian interference in the 2016 election.

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But we weren't talking about criminality, etc. on the part of the Russians. As for Trump or his staff, you are simply writing down your wishful thinking.

Yarddog said:

Mueller outlined several instances in which Trump tried to impede the investigation, which is illegal.

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If he actually had the goods he would have said so. As you know, he couldn't.

Yarddog said:

He had the goods on obstruction and outlined them in his report to the DOJ. He said he couldn't bring charges because of DOJ policy against filing criminal charges against a sitting President but that those could be filed after Trump leaves office.

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But he admitted publicly that he had not found enough evidence to bring charges, even without that consideration.

Yarddog said:

And? That changes nothing. Mueller wasn't just investigating any involvement by the campaign, he was investigating Russian interference and he detailed just how Russia interfered and Trump's tried to impede that investigation.

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No, he detailed information that might indicate that Trump tried to impede that investigation.

The key word here is "justice." A Witch hunt is not justice. And that is why an underlying crime is required for obstruction to be criminal.

But we have been round and round on this, and have beaten it to death. We will just have to wait and see who ends up in prison. And that will be mainly people who were attempting to frame the President.

Biblewriter said:

The key word here is "justice." A Witch hunt is not justice. And that is why an underlying crime is required for obstruction to be criminal.

But we have been round and round on this, and have beaten it to death. We will just have to wait and see who ends up in prison. And that will be mainly people who were attempting to frame the President.

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Except an underlying crime is not required for obstruction to be criminal. A criminal investigation can find somebody innocent of any crime. That's part of the criminal justice system. So is somebody being charged with a crime. But disrupting the process at all, even if it will end up in the way you benefit from, is still obstructing the criminal justice system. Obstruction is a stand-alone crime, it's not an enhancement, which when you think about it makes sense. If Obstruction was an enhancement, then if you managed to successfully destroy evidence, intimidate a witness or whatnot, then you got off completely scot-free. It's about the process, not the end result.

Arcangl86 said:

Except an underlying crime is not required for obstruction to be criminal. A criminal investigation can find somebody innocent of any crime. That's part of the criminal justice system. So is somebody being charged with a crime. But disrupting the process at all, even if it will end up in the way you benefit from, is still obstructing the criminal justice system. Obstruction is a stand-alone crime, it's not an enhancement, which when you think about it makes sense. If Obstruction was an enhancement, then if you managed to successfully destroy evidence, intimidate a witness or whatnot, then you got off completely scot-free. It's about the process, not the end result.

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We have been round and round on this, and I have pointed out that you are mistaken abut it. Over and Out!

Biblewriter said:

We have been round and round on this, and I have pointed out that you are mistaken abut it. Over and Out!

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If I'm mistaken about it you can point me at the relevant law right?

Yarddog said:

As of yet, no one has presented any credible evidence that anyone has attempted to frame the President.

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Don't worry...it's coming...be patient.