"peace and safety" and the red horse

Pedra said:

Ya, his bogus stats based upon " Kingdom Theology" --no thanks. That is not a belief that the Bible teaches.

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Jesus preached the kingdom into existence but only the born again can see it. The Pharisees created the Millennium physical kingdom concept he taught against.

Dave L said:

Jesus preached the kingdom into existence but only the born again can see it. The Pharisees created the Millennium physical kingdom concept he taught against.

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Sorry but the Kingdom theology misinterprets scripture, it ignores Bible prophecy and ignores Israel's place in God's plan of salvation amongst other things.
The Kingdom of heaven is not here on earth yet. People are entitled to their own beliefs even if they are heresies, these can be discussed and debated. The problem comes when they try to teach the heresies to others as absolutes.

Pedra said:

Sorry but the Kingdom theology misinterprets scripture, it ignores Bible prophecy and ignores Israel's place in God's plan of salvation amongst other things.
The Kingdom of heaven is not here on earth yet. People are entitled to their own beliefs even if they are heresies, these can be discussed and debated. The problem comes when they try to teach the heresies to others as absolutes.

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Jesus taught the kingdom was spiritual only. And refuted the Pharisee's millennial kingdom ideas throughout the gospels. Are you adding to scripture, especially Revelation if you teach them?

Dave L said:

Only 11 of 90+ prophecies were fulfilled as written. Why do you think you can understand a prophecy before the fulfillment defines or explains it?

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Only 11? Which ones were those?

Please visit my Josphus and all of the Olivet Discourse fulfilled thread........

JOSEPHUS-70AD JERUSALEM-CITY, WALLS, TOWERS, TEMPLE, SANCTUARY AND DESTRUCTION

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
Also see: Rapture refuted

Dave L said:

Jesus taught the kingdom was spiritual only. And refuted the Pharisee's millennial kingdom ideas throughout the gospels. Are you adding to scripture, especially Revelation if you teach them?

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I know you love to use ad hominem attacks on those you disagree with Dave.
I will ask you politely to stop that , so an adult discussion can take place.
Jesus taught that His kingdom was both here and future.
The Bible teaches there is a spiritual battle going on both in the heavenly realm and on earth, Christians are told to occupy until HE comes. That means Jesus is returning , He is not sitting on His throne in Jerusalem yet.

Pedra said:

I know you love to use ad hominem attacks on those you disagree with Dave.
I will ask you politely to stop that , so an adult discussion can take place.
Jesus taught that His kingdom was both here and future.
The Bible teaches there is a spiritual battle going on both in the heavenly realm and on earth, Christians are told to occupy until HE comes. That means Jesus is returning , He is not sitting on His throne in Jerusalem yet.

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Have you considered Jesus presently reigns from David's Throne in Heavenly Jerusalem. “Therefore [David} being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.” (Acts 2:30–31)

And Paul said; “For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.” 1 Corinthians 15:25–26 (NASB95)

Jesus defeats death on the last day in the resurrection.

LittleLambofJesus said:

Only 11? Which ones were those?

Please visit my Josphus and all of the Olivet Discourse fulfilled thread........

JOSEPHUS-70AD JERUSALEM-CITY, WALLS, TOWERS, TEMPLE, SANCTUARY AND DESTRUCTION

The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD
Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!
Also see: Rapture refuted

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A. Natural events; fulfilled exactly as described (only found to be true of O. T. prophecies fulfilled in the O. T.):

Gen. 6: 17; “I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh.“
Gen. 15: 13; “Thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs..
Gen. 15: 18; “Unto thy seed have I given this land.. repeated to Moses in Num. 34: 2, etc. Specifically stated as fulfilled in Josh. 11: 23, 21: 43-45, Neh. 9: 8.
Gen. 17: 19; “Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed”, fulfilled in birth of Isaac. But note that immediately preceding we find the larger promise to Sarah (v. 16).
“She shall be mother of nations (Gentiles), kings of people shall be of her”, which is parallel to the same promise given to Abraham (v. 56־), and literally fulfilled only in the church, as we are told in Gal. 4, Rom. 4: 17 and Rev. 1: 6.
Gen. 41; the 7 years of plenty followed by the 7 of famine, as foretold by Joseph to Pharaoh.
Num. 14: 34; “forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities... “
Isa. 44: 28-45: 13; the promise that Cyrus “build” Jerusalem, and release the captivity.
Jer. 25: 9-12, 29: 10; the 70 years captivity in Babylon, revealed to Daniel as terminated during his very prayer (Dan. 19: 23).

Robert Whitelaw. (n.d.). THE GOSPEL MILLENNIUM and Obedience to Scripture.

Dave L said:

Have you considered Jesus presently reigns from David's Throne in Heavenly Jerusalem. “Therefore [David} being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.” (Acts 2:30–31)

And Paul said; “For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.” 1 Corinthians 15:25–26 (NASB95)

Jesus defeats death on the last day in the resurrection.

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Jesus defeated His enemies in the 1st century destruction of Jerusalem and Masada..........

Visual Timeline of the Roman-Jewish War ARTchive @

Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62
Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66

Revelation 2:
9 “I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich);
and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
13 “I know your works, and where you dwell, where Satan's throne is.
And you hold fast to My name, and did not deny My faith even in the days in which Antipas was My faithful martyr, who was killed among you, where Satan dwells.

Revelation 3:9
“Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—
indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.

Matthew 23:33 "Serpents! brood of vipers!
how? ye may be fleeing from the judging<2920> of the Gehenna <1067>

Revelation 14:11 And the Smoke of the tormenting of Them is ascending into Ages to-Ages..........

3. The Sadducees | Bible.org

The Sadducees did not believe in the resurrection of the dead or the immortality of the soul, since these doctrines are not mentioned in the law of Moses. Neither did they believe in heaven or hell.
They interpreted the law literally and tended to support strict justice as opposed to mercy toward the offender.
Since Jesus supported all these things opposed by the Sadducees, Jesus did not fit within the Sadducean movement.

Being closely associated with the Temple, the Sadducees disappeared from history when the Temple was destroyed in 70.

Is the "GEHENNA" of Matt 23:33 the "LAKE OF FIRE" in Revelation? Poll thread

Douggg said:

In 1Thessalonians5, they will be saying "peace and safety". And then they are taken by surprise by the beginning of the Day of the Lord.

In 2Thessalonians2:4, the beginning of the Day of the Lord is triggered by the Antichrist going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood. Revealing himself as the man of sin.

Having gone into the temple and sat, the place reserved for God, in Ezekiel 28:1-10 gets the revealed man of sin killed.

In Revelation 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

On my chart, I show, the rider on the white horse given a crown. The person becomes the Antichrist. Confirms the covenant for 7 years. The Jews and the world will be thinking they have entered the messianic age - peace and safety.

About three years into the 7 years, the Antichrist goes into the temple and commits the ToD, transgression of desolation act. The Jews immediately reject him from continuing as their King of Israel messiah.

Revealed as the man of sin, peace and safety is over. The rider on the red horse takes peace from the earth, and conflicts begin, which the revealed man of sin will be killed.

The white horse and red horse are shown on my chart.

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Dougg,


I am trying to make sense out of your chart. Here are some things that I am noticing.

You refer to the "little horn" in Daniel as the head of the European Union. In the next sentence you refer to a passage addressed to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28. The King of Tyre can't be the head of the European Union. Tyre isn't in Europe.

There is no single head of the EU at present, there is collective leadership. Not only is the EU leadership collective, it also rotates. There is the President of the European Council, the President of the European Commission and the President of the European Parliament. Technically, an entire country is President of the European Council. Right now, I believe that Finland holds this office. In time, this office will rotate to another country. For a single person to hold complete power over the EU will take enormous changes.

You claim to integrate the Gog/Magog prophecy in Ezekiel with other prophecies in Daniel and Revelation. I don't see how this works.

Douggg said:

In Ezekiel 28, there is mention of the Prince of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:1-10. That's the one I am talking about. Also in Ezekiel 28, the is a prophesy against the King of Tyre, in Ezekiel 28:12-19.

I agree that the neither the literal King of Tyre nor Prince of Tyre can't be the head of the EU. But those are code names.

Prince of Tyre - is for the arch villian of the end times, after he reveals himself to be the man of sin.
King of Tyre - is a code name for Satan.

I have another thread about Ezekiel 28:16-19, about the prophecy against Satan, in terms of end times events, that you may be interested in. Futurist Only - The abomination of desolation turned to ashes


I agree with everything you wrote. The EU government structure would have change to ten leaders with one leader over them. I don't know what will cause it. Brexit may have an effect.

Basically the person starts as the democratic leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire). Then for a stint is the Antichrist (the King of Israel), who betrays the Jews, and ends up becoming the beast, dictator leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire).

My chart below shows him going through those stages. That's the theme of all my charts.



Ezekiel 38/39 gives a compressed view of the end times. From right before Gog/Magog, Israel living in peace. Then Gog/Magog attack. The the destruction of Gog's army. Then 7 years. Then at the end of the 7 years, Armageddon and Jesus's return.

The ten kings and the little horn leader will be in power before Gog/Magog.
Right after Gog/Magog, the little horn person moves his EU army into the middle east on the premise of peace keepers in the region.
The Jews will believe the little horn person is the messiah.
The false prophet anoints him the King of Israel, which is what make the person the Antichrist.
The 7 years begin, a false messiah age.
The world saying peace and safety.
Then the Antichrist betrays the Jews and Israel, claims to be God.
Becoming the revealed man of Sin,
Which God in Ezekiel 28:1-10 brings strangers against him and has him killed
In Isaiah 14:18-20, in disdain for the person, God bring hims back to life,
the person becomes the beast of Revelation.
No longer the King of Israel, the ten leaders of the EU make him their dictator, final leader of the EU.

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Dougg: "Prince of Tyre - is for the arch villian of the end times, after he reveals himself to be the man of sin.
King of Tyre - is a code name for Satan."


I am not seeing why we should believe that the Prince or King or Tyre is anything but an ancient ruler of a city-state that was sometimes in conflict with ancient Israel. Why would King of Tyre be a "code name for Satan"?

Many of the prophecies in the prophetic books of the Old Testament obviously refer to events that happened long ago.



Dougg: "I agree with everything you wrote. The EU government structure would have change to ten leaders with one leader over them. I don't know what will cause it. Brexit may have an effect."

Thanks.


Dougg: "Basically the person starts as the democratic leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire). Then for a stint is the Antichrist (the King of Israel), who betrays the Jews, and ends up becoming the beast, dictator leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire)."

Why does the Antichrist have to be the King of Israel?

Douggg said:

In Ezekiel 28, there is mention of the Prince of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:1-10. That's the one I am talking about. Also in Ezekiel 28, the is a prophesy against the King of Tyre, in Ezekiel 28:12-19.

I agree that the neither the literal King of Tyre nor Prince of Tyre can't be the head of the EU. But those are code names.

Prince of Tyre - is for the arch villian of the end times, after he reveals himself to be the man of sin.
King of Tyre - is a code name for Satan.

I have another thread about Ezekiel 28:16-19, about the prophecy against Satan, in terms of end times events, that you may be interested in. Futurist Only - The abomination of desolation turned to ashes


I agree with everything you wrote. The EU government structure would have change to ten leaders with one leader over them. I don't know what will cause it. Brexit may have an effect.

Basically the person starts as the democratic leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire). Then for a stint is the Antichrist (the King of Israel), who betrays the Jews, and ends up becoming the beast, dictator leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire).

My chart below shows him going through those stages. That's the theme of all my charts.



Ezekiel 38/39 gives a compressed view of the end times. From right before Gog/Magog, Israel living in peace. Then Gog/Magog attack. The the destruction of Gog's army. Then 7 years. Then at the end of the 7 years, Armageddon and Jesus's return.

The ten kings and the little horn leader will be in power before Gog/Magog.
Right after Gog/Magog, the little horn person moves his EU army into the middle east on the premise of peace keepers in the region.
The Jews will believe the little horn person is the messiah.
The false prophet anoints him the King of Israel, which is what make the person the Antichrist.
The 7 years begin, a false messiah age.
The world saying peace and safety.
Then the Antichrist betrays the Jews and Israel, claims to be God.
Becoming the revealed man of Sin,
Which God in Ezekiel 28:1-10 brings strangers against him and has him killed
In Isaiah 14:18-20, in disdain for the person, God bring hims back to life,
the person becomes the beast of Revelation.
No longer the King of Israel, the ten leaders of the EU make him their dictator, final leader of the EU.

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Dougg in post #70: << Dougg: "Prince of Tyre - is for the arch villian of the end times, after he reveals himself to be the man of sin.
King of Tyre - is a code name for Satan." >>



I have found an article by Andrew Perriman that addresses the question of whether the King of Tyre is Satan and also whether the King of Babylon is Satan in Ezekiel and Isaiah.

Perriman concludes: "The tradition has read into the texts something that simply isn’t there."

Perriman justifies this by saying: "The prince of Tyre is compared not with Satan but with Adam."


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Neither the prince of Tyre nor the king of Babylon is Satan

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Neither the prince of Tyre nor the king of Babylon is Satan

Dale said: ↑
You refer to the "little horn" in Daniel as the head of the European Union. In the next sentence you refer to a passage addressed to the King of Tyre in Ezekiel 28. The King of Tyre can't be the head of the European Union. Tyre isn't in Europe.

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Douggg said: ↑
In Ezekiel 28, there is mention of the Prince of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:1-10. That's the one I am talking about. Also in Ezekiel 28, the is a prophesy against the King of Tyre, in Ezekiel 28:12-19.

I agree that the neither the literal King of Tyre nor Prince of Tyre can't be the head of the EU. But those are code names.

Prince of Tyre - is for the arch villian of the end times, after he reveals himself to be the man of sin.
King of Tyre - is a code name for Satan.

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Dale said:

Dougg in post #70: << Dougg: "Prince of Tyre - is for the arch villian of the end times, after he reveals himself to be the man of sin.
King of Tyre - is a code name for Satan." >>
Article
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Tyre and Babylon are code words for 1st century/70ad Israel/Jerusalem.......

Ezekiel 7:
1 And a Word of Yahweh is becoming to me to say of, `And thou, Son of 'adam! thus says Adonay Yahweh to ground of Yisra'el:
2 An End! comes, the End on four of corners of the land.
3 Now the End upon thee, and I send My anger in thee, and I judge thee as ways of thee, and I give on thee all abominations/08441 tow`ebah of thee.

Ezekiel 21:2
“Son of man, set your face toward Jerusalem, preach against the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel;
Eze 21:25
‘Now to you, O profane, wicked prince of Israel, whose day has come, whose iniquity shall end,
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Mat 11:21
“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
Mat 11:22
“But I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in the day of judgment than for you.
Luk 10:13
“Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes.
Luk 10:14
“But it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you.
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Matthew 11:20-24: A Preterist Commentary - Revelation Revolution

Matthew 11:20-24 Summary and Highlights
Jesus says that it would be more bearable for Tyre, Sidon and Sodom on the day of judgment than it would be for Korazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum.
The Roman army arrived in Jerusalem in A.D. 66 in Tishri, a month that begins with the Day of Judgment.
Korazin, Bethsaida and Capernaum were ravaged by the Romans during this war in fulfillment of Jesus’ warning in Matthew 11:20-24.

The Jewish War began on the Month that begins with the Holiday called the “Day of Judgment”
20Then Jesus began to denounce the cities in which most of his miracles had been performed, because they did not repent. 21“Woe to you, Korazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22But I tell you, it will be more bearable for Tyre and Sidon on the day of judgment than for you. 23And you, Capernaum, will you be lifted up to the skies? No, you will go down to the depths. If the miracles that were performed in you had been performed in Sodom, it would have remained to this day. 24But I tell you that it will be more bearable for Sodom on the day of judgment than for you.”

Arriving in Israel in Tishri, a Month that begins with the “Day of Judgment,” the Romans attacked and destroyed all the Cities mentioned Above.
Though there is an underlying message about hell in these verses, these threats are also fulfilled in the Jewish War.1 In A.D. 66, Israel declared war on Rome. Rome responded by sending the 12th legion in addition to thousands of auxiliaries from neighboring kingdoms. These troops arrived in Tishri, a month that begins with the Day of Judgment. It is on this day that trumpets sound the somber days of atonement and final judgment.2 Thus began the Jewish War.3

According to Josephus, the Jewish War was the worst war in history.4 Jesus echoed these words in Matthew 24:21. In this verse, Jesus predicted that this war would bring unparalleled distress. All the cities mentioned in these verses were attacked and destroyed by the Roman military. In Luke 12:49 Jesus says, “I have come to bring fire on the earth. . . .” Just after the initial aspect of the Parousia in A.D. 66, the Roman army attacked Israel. See Historical Evidence that Jesus was LITERALLY SEEN in the Clouds in the First Century. The Romans demolished and burned the cities and countryside of Israel leaving the province a burning wasteland. The fiery fate of Israel is itself an earthly reflection of hell.
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Visual Timeline of the Roman-Jewish War ARTchive

THE ROMAN-JEWISH WAR
The Historical Fall of Jerusalem in AD70

TRACKING THE FIRST JEWISH REVOLT FROM A MILITARY POINT OF VIEW
POV: Administrative | Factional | Military | Theological

Roman: Emperor Nero | General Vespasian | General Titus | The Roman Army || Jewish: General / Historian Josephus | Factional Leaders in Jerusalem || Administrators of Roman Judea Targets: Jerusalem | Herod's Temple // Maps of the Roman Invasion // Theological Timeline

CHRONOLOGY IMMEDIATELY SURROUNDING THE WAR

Stage 1: Murder of James the Just, "Opposition High Priest" ; Irrevocable Split: 62
Stage 2: General Revolt in Jerusalem ; Zealot Occupation of Masada: August-September 66
Stage 3: The Campaign of Cestius Gallus and the Defeat of the Twelfth Legion: October-November 66
Stage 4: End of Collaborative Government, Priesthood ; General Flight: November 66 - March 67
Part 6: Vespasian Subdues Northern and Western Palestine: December 66 - December 68
Part 7: Three-way Power Struggle within Jerusalem After Roman Retreat: January 68 - May 70
Part 8: Romans Breach City Walls and Leave Jerusalem Desolate: May 10 - September 10, 70
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Douggg said:

In Ezekiel 28, there is mention of the Prince of Tyre in Ezekiel 28:1-10. That's the one I am talking about. Also in Ezekiel 28, the is a prophesy against the King of Tyre, in Ezekiel 28:12-19.

I agree that the neither the literal King of Tyre nor Prince of Tyre can't be the head of the EU. But those are code names.

Prince of Tyre - is for the arch villian of the end times, after he reveals himself to be the man of sin.
King of Tyre - is a code name for Satan.

I have another thread about Ezekiel 28:16-19, about the prophecy against Satan, in terms of end times events, that you may be interested in. Futurist Only - The abomination of desolation turned to ashes


I agree with everything you wrote. The EU government structure would have change to ten leaders with one leader over them. I don't know what will cause it. Brexit may have an effect.

Basically the person starts as the democratic leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire). Then for a stint is the Antichrist (the King of Israel), who betrays the Jews, and ends up becoming the beast, dictator leader of the EU (King of the Roman empire).

My chart below shows him going through those stages. That's the theme of all my charts.



Ezekiel 38/39 gives a compressed view of the end times. From right before Gog/Magog, Israel living in peace. Then Gog/Magog attack. The the destruction of Gog's army. Then 7 years. Then at the end of the 7 years, Armageddon and Jesus's return.

The ten kings and the little horn leader will be in power before Gog/Magog.
Right after Gog/Magog, the little horn person moves his EU army into the middle east on the premise of peace keepers in the region.
The Jews will believe the little horn person is the messiah.
The false prophet anoints him the King of Israel, which is what make the person the Antichrist.
The 7 years begin, a false messiah age.
The world saying peace and safety.
Then the Antichrist betrays the Jews and Israel, claims to be God.
Becoming the revealed man of Sin,
Which God in Ezekiel 28:1-10 brings strangers against him and has him killed
In Isaiah 14:18-20, in disdain for the person, God bring hims back to life,
the person becomes the beast of Revelation.
No longer the King of Israel, the ten leaders of the EU make him their dictator, final leader of the EU.

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Dougg,

You are proceeding on the assumption that the seven hills in Revelation 17 point to Rome, Italy. That's why your chart mentions the Julio Claudian line.


Do the seven hills in Revelation 17:9-11 refer to Rome?

9 “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for only a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
Revelation 17:9-11 NIV

Many people have thought so. It is well known that Rome grew from seven villages on seven hills. It is understandable that Protestant reformers at the time of the Protestant Reformation would think of the Pope as the source of evil. But does this make sense today? The Pope is a celebrity, he is quoted in the media. Yet other world figures, like, say, the President of China, wield far more power.

Many Dispensationalists assume that the seven hills point to Rome, which means the European Union. However, as I've pointed out in the past, the European Union really has its headquarters in Brussels, Belgium, so any identification between Rome and the European Union is speculative at best.

I have found a source with an alternative explanation for the same passage. A commentary on the Evidence Unseen site says that the word translated as "hill" in the NIV should be translated as "mountain." Further, in Old Testament prophecy, a mountain was one way to refer to an empire. John, the author of Revelation, would be familiar with this symbolism. In short, the "seven hills" are actually "seven mountains" which stand for the seven greatest nations or empires of the world. The message is not that it's all happening in Rome, or Europe, but that the evil world system is influencing or subordinating all the empires of the world.

Is this a sensible point of view? The highly respected Revised Standard Version does use "seven mountains" instead of "seven hills."

9 This calls for a mind with wisdom: the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman is seated; 10 they are also seven kings, five of whom have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come, and when he comes he must remain only a little while. 11 As for the beast that was and is not, it is an eighth but it belongs to the seven, and it goes to perdition.
Revelation 17: 9-11 RSV

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(Rev. 17:9) Are the “seven hills” an allusion to Rome here? | Evidence Unseen

Douggg said:

It appears that in the article the author is saying that the prince of Tyre is not Satan.

Well, I agree that the prince of Tyre is not referring to Satan, but the revealed man of sin in 2Thessalonians2:4.

Lack of knowledge by the author that he doesn't make that connection.

Ezekiel 28:1-10 = revealed man of sin
Ezekiel 28:12-19 = Satan

Two different persons.

Ezekiel 28:2 is easily compared to 2Thessalonians2:4.

2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

Of course, that is not referring to Satan, but the revealed man of sin. So I don't why Andrew Perriman is make such a point of it.

The Antichrist will go into the temple, sit in the place reserved for God, and claim to have achieved God-hood. The same lie that Satan made in the garden to Eve, that they would become like God.

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Dougg: "The Antichrist will go into the temple, sit in the place reserved for God, and claim to have achieved God-hood."

What is the place reserved for God?


The Jews believed that God sat on the Mercy Seat above the Ark.

If this Antichrist going to sit on top of the Ark?

You are presuming that the Temple will be rebuilt. Will they make a new Ark, from directions in the Torah? Or are you one of those who believes the Ark is hidden somewhere and will be brought out when the time is right?