The Sabbath of the TEN Commandments - for all mankind (V2)

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nonsense ... please choose facts that are actually visible on this thread.

These texts so easily ignored by those opposed to the plain statements we find here - do not constitute a denial of the gospel... as it turns out


Eph 6:
2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise:

First commandment where? In God's Ten Commandments. .. obviously


Rom 7: "7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, “You shall not covet.

What LAW says that? -- Ans: God's Ten Commandments

James 2
10 For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of the law.

God's Law says that "in the Ten Commandments" as we all know

Mark 7
6 He answered and said to them, “Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men—the washing of pitchers and cups, and many other such things you do.”
9 He said to them, “All too well you reject the commandment of God, that you may keep your tradition. 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 11 But you say, ‘If a man says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is Corban”—’ (that is, a gift to God), 12 then you no longer let him do anything for his father or his mother, 13 making the word of God of no effect through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such things you do.”

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they were posted... then ignored.. then we have that summary "dismissal" post above as if - the texts are either "authored by me" and so can be ignored or they have some mystical meaning not apparent to the reader. While you may choose one of those options as you have free will and can choose that if you like... please don't post as if all of us went down that path as well.

Meanwhile by contrast - we find a number of contributors to this thread affirming texts like that .. not "just me".
My apologies for the "whatever" comment. It's late and I'm tired. You have your religious observances. I've stated what my Bible says, particularly Galatians 3. I will continue my blessed life by living according to the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus that makes me free from the Law of sin and death. I will continue to obey my conscience and intuition. I will continue to live by the Law of liberty, not the law of Moses. I will daily be saved by grace. I will value and treasure my righteousness which exceeds that of the Pharisees because it is of God, not me. I will not stoop so low as to merely live by outward observances of commandments. God's requirements of me are so much higher than I can achieve that I must live by the Spirit. The Law of Moses is a shadow of the reality. I prefer to live in the light, not the shadows.
 
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My apologies for the "whatever" comment. It's late and I'm tired. You have your religious observances. I've stated what my Bible says, particularly Galatians 3. I will continue my blessed life by living according to the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus that makes me free from the Law of sin and death. I will continue to obey my conscience and intuition. I will continue to live by the Law of liberty, not the law of Moses. I will daily be saved by grace. I will value and treasure my righteousness which exceeds that of the Pharisees because it is of God, not me. I will not stoop so low as to merely live by outward observances of commandments. God's requirements of me are so much higher than I can achieve that I must live by the Spirit. The Law of Moses is a shadow of the reality. I prefer to live in the light, not the shadows.
Amen! What a great testimony. They keep one foot in the old covenant and tell everyone else that they are the remnant and if we are not part of them we are Babylon and are either the beast of the image of one. It appears that those proclaiming to be the remnant have some competing groups that proclaim the same thing.

Jesus is enough. Jesus is love pure love. That is how to imitate Him. Love is His will for us.
 
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You have your religious observances. I've stated what my Bible says, particularly Galatians 3.

No doubt and you of course can choose whatever course you like.

For me - its the Bible "details" that have my attention -- in those "Scriptures" that Christ quotes in the gospels and that Paul quotes in his writings. The very same ones ... found to be so "inconvenient" to some of the readers on this or that thread at times.
 
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I will continue my blessed life by living according to the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus that makes me free from the Law of sin and death. I will continue to obey my conscience and intuition. I will continue to live by the Law of liberty, not the law of Moses. I will daily be saved by grace. I will value and treasure my righteousness which exceeds that of the Pharisees because it is of God, not me. I will not stoop so low as to merely live by outward observances of commandments. God's requirements of me are so much higher than I can achieve that I must live by the Spirit. The Law of Moses is a shadow of the reality. I prefer to live in the light, not the shadows.
Amen! What a great testimony.
Indeed. Has a lot of "I"s in it, though. Reminds me of this testimony, somewhat:
“But you said in your heart,
I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God,
And I will sit on the mount of assembly
In the recesses of the north.
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’"
(Isaiah 14:13-14)

They keep one foot in the old covenant and tell everyone else that they are the remnant and if we are not part of them we are Babylon and are either the beast of the image of one.
"Us and them"--Nice stuff--You're doing exactly what you're accusing "them" of doing.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
(Luke 18:11)

"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you."
(Matthew 7:2)

Lots of "I" trouble

It appears that those proclaiming to be the remnant have some competing groups that proclaim the same thing.
The fact that there are many counterfeits in no way negates the existence of the true.
Jesus is enough. Jesus is love pure love. That is how to imitate Him. Love is His will for us.
“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
(John 5:39)(John 5:46-47)
 
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Indeed. Has a lot of "I"s in it, though. Reminds me of this testimony, somewhat:
“But you said in your heart,
I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne above the stars of God,
And I will sit on the mount of assembly
In the recesses of the north.
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High.’"
(Isaiah 14:13-14)


"Us and them"--Nice stuff--You're doing exactly what you're accusing "them" of doing.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
(Luke 18:11)

"For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you."
(Matthew 7:2)

Lots of "I" trouble


The fact that there are many counterfeits in no way negates the existence of the true.

“You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
(John 5:39)(John 5:46-47)

"Lot's of 'I's". Yes. When beseeched by the lame begger, Peter replied, "... such as I have I give to you." God invested everything in the Son. His eternal will has always been that we should be like Christ. Those who are born again have everything of Christ that they will ever have. Some know who they are in Christ. Many do not. We will all end up in the same place, one way or another. Lord Jesus is my Life. God does not differentiate between me and Lord Jesus. I am not Lord Jesus, but I died and my life is hidden in Him with God. I don't need the law to tell me what to do. I have the indwelling Holy Spirit who takes what is of Christ and makes it effective in me. There is zero room for boasting; all is a gift. Satan tried to raise himself to God's level. Christ, through the resurrection, raised me to His. Yes I sin and fail and I do not know all the riches that are mine in Christ. The blood of Christ cleanses as i confess. The Lord reveals more and more to me day by day. Once I am clean, I get on with living in obedience and faith. Which are both of the Lord Jesus. Galatians 2:20 is one of the most quoted and least understood verses in God's word. It means exactly what it says.
 
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I don't need the law to tell me what to do. I have the indwelling Holy Spirit who takes what is of Christ and makes it effective in me.
"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
(John 5:46-47)
Galatians 2:20 is one of the most quoted and least understood verses in God's word.
What qualifies you to judge other people's understanding?
It means exactly what it says.
So does this one:

The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person.
(Ecclesiastes 12:13)


 
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Paul condemns the observance of "special days" in Galatians 4:10. The church in Galatia thought they needed to follow Jewish customs in order to know God. Paul says that is profoundly mistaken. In Galatians 5:4 he even says it cuts you off of Christ himself.

Sounds rather scary, don't you think?

Shabbat is not just a Jewish "custom". Shabbat was made Holy by The Almighty Himself at Creation. Galatians is about circumcision, not Shabbat.
SHABBAT SHALOM!
 
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"work" goes beyond lifting heavy objects and the logical end eventually points to the mechanics of our own body. As long as our body is still "working" we cannot fulfill the sabbath. We would need to die before the sabbath then be resurrected when it was over.
This logic leads to the absurd notion that Christ did not keep His Father's commandments and actually totally violated every one of the approximately 1,742 Sabbaths through which He lived. Not to mention the ones He has lived through since His resurrection. That number would come to roughly 103,376 Sabbaths. This reasoning strains credulity.
 
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Shabbat is not just a Jewish "custom". Shabbat was made Holy by The Almighty Himself at Creation. Galatians is about circumcision, not Shabbat.
SHABBAT SHALOM!

Indeed

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"For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for he wrote about Me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words?”
(John 5:46-47)

What qualifies you to judge other people's understanding?

So does this one:

The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person.
(Ecclesiastes 12:13)

"But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one." Yes, I am spiritual. Not a boast, a fact.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 is perfectly correct. The problem is not the Law. It us. We cannot keep it. If you can, fine. That would be a first for fallen humanity. You do not need Jesus. I do.
 
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"But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one." Yes, I am spiritual. Not a boast, a fact.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 is perfectly correct. The problem is not the Law. It us. We cannot keep it. If you can, fine. That would be a first for fallen humanity. You do not need Jesus. I do.

Rom 8:4-11
He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. 8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.
 
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This logic leads to the absurd notion that Christ did not keep His Father's commandments and actually totally violated every one of the approximately 1,742 Sabbaths through which He lived. Not to mention the ones He has lived through since His resurrection. That number would come to roughly 103,376 Sabbaths. This reasoning strains credulity.
During Christ, sacrifices were still performed according to the letter of the law but we know these sacrifices were limited and could never satisfy the demand of the law even though the letter of the law was still kept. Even still there was no other option so the sacrifices continued and because this was the system the still honoured God. With the Sabbath, Christ kept the letter of the law (103,376 Sabbaths) as well as satisfied the demand of the law (his rest in the grave over the Sabbath) both his sacrifice and his sabbath only come into full fruition upon the resurrection.

We know that this system cries out for one to come who has authority to ultimately forgive sins and satisfy the demands of the law. This person, of course, was Jesus but he just didn't wave his hand and it all disappeared. there was a cost and this cost was his death and his spilt blood and this is what was needed to satisfy the law.

We don't look to this and say sacrifices were all void but rather look to them and say they point to Christ's single act that removes the demand for continual sacrifices. The logic of course of the sacrificial system doesn't stop at once a year but would demand a never-ending supply constantly happening with a river of blood always flowing.

So here we have the same problem with the Sabbath. The letter of the law has a once a week obtainable adherence like the sacrifice has a once a year obtainable adherence. Yet the logic of it goes far beyond to infeasible levels just like the sacrifice and would go down to our breath and beating heart to satisfy the demand of the law of the sabbath. the sacrifice sanctifies us, the sabbath gives us the rest of God so if we want to be truly sanctified we must look to Christ and his single act of sacrifice and if we want to receive the true rest of God we must look to Christ and his single act of rest (not to the 103,376 Sabbaths prior to this that were kept according to the letter of the law).

adherence of the sabbath is limited and will never receive the true rest of God through it. We must look to Christ as he satisfied the demand of the Sabbath law through a single act of rest. You seem to desire to still keep the letter of the Sabbath law but fail to understand that Christ has satisfied the demand of the Sabbath (that goes beyond the letter of the law). We, in the flesh, are able to keep the letter of the law, even without fault, but we are unable to satisfy the demand of the law so we must look to Christ for this. In the end, the one who keeps the sabbath and the one who doesn't obstains God's sabbath rest through the same source which is Christ who offers true rest. He explicitly offers this invitation saying "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest"
 
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"But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one." Yes, I am spiritual. Not a boast, a fact.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 is perfectly correct. The problem is not the Law. It us. We cannot keep it. If you can, fine. That would be a first for fallen humanity. You do not need Jesus. I do.
Now you have decided I do not need Jesus, because that since He died for me and covered my sins I wish, by His grace, that I might not add any more to His sufferings, thereby crucifying Him afresh. I do not say that I have no sin. I simply don't want any. He told me that He does not condemn me and that I must go, and sin no more. I think He means what He says, so I pray for forgiveness when I sin, and for power to become a more mature son of God, as I receive Him and believe on His name. I have accused you of nothing. I merely shared my observation that your "testimony" referred largely to yourself. What gives you the ability to determine that I do not need Christ? It has been said that the trouble with legalists is that they do not take the law seriously enough. I believe this. I know what it means. Those who sense an obligation to obey God rather than man are always called to task, but those who rely on a relationship with God that calls mainly for justification are considered put upon when they are asked to give a clear, unambiguous scriptural defense for their oxymoronic, antinomianistic Soteriology. The Great Apostle said that the commandment is holy and just and good. Yet evangelical Christendom insists upon twisting nearly everything else he says to mean that God's commandments are the enemy of souls, as though the devil himself wrote them. I wish to be saved from my sins, not in them. I choose to strive to live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. I hunger and thirst after righteousness, and I have been promised by Jesus that I will be filled. If that makes me a heretic, it's a rap I'm willing to take.
 
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During Christ, sacrifices were still performed according to the letter of the law but we know these sacrifices were limited and could never satisfy the demand of the law even though the letter of the law was still kept. Even still there was no other option so the sacrifices continued and because this was the system the still honoured God. With the Sabbath, Christ kept the letter of the law (103,376 Sabbaths) as well as satisfied the demand of the law (his rest in the grave over the Sabbath) both his sacrifice and his sabbath only come into full fruition upon the resurrection.

We know that this system cries out for one to come who has authority to ultimately forgive sins and satisfy the demands of the law. This person, of course, was Jesus but he just didn't wave his hand and it all disappeared. there was a cost and this cost was his death and his spilt blood and this is what was needed to satisfy the law.

We don't look to this and say sacrifices were all void but rather look to them and say they point to Christ's single act that removes the demand for continual sacrifices. The logic of course of the sacrificial system doesn't stop at once a year but would demand a never-ending supply constantly happening with a river of blood always flowing.

So here we have the same problem with the Sabbath. The letter of the law has a once a week obtainable adherence like the sacrifice has a once a year obtainable adherence. Yet the logic of it goes far beyond to infeasible levels just like the sacrifice and would go down to our breath and beating heart to satisfy the demand of the law of the sabbath. the sacrifice sanctifies us, the sabbath gives us the rest of God so if we want to be truly sanctified we must look to Christ and his single act of sacrifice and if we want to receive the true rest of God we must look to Christ and his single act of rest (not to the 103,376 Sabbaths prior to this that were kept according to the letter of the law).

adherence of the sabbath is limited and will never receive the true rest of God through it. We must look to Christ as he satisfied the demand of the Sabbath law through a single act of rest. You seem to desire to still keep the letter of the Sabbath law but fail to understand that Christ has satisfied the demand of the Sabbath (that goes beyond the letter of the law). We, in the flesh, are able to keep the letter of the law, even without fault, but we are unable to satisfy the demand of the law so we must look to Christ for this. In the end, the one who keeps the sabbath and the one who doesn't obstains God's sabbath rest through the same source which is Christ who offers true rest. He explicitly offers this invitation saying "Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest"
Either He literally, physically kept all of His Father's commandments or He did not. The Bible was written for the common man--not Philadelphia lawyers or enlightened mystics.
 
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Either He literally, physically kept all of His Father's commandments or He did not. The Bible was written for the common man--not Philadelphia lawyers or enlightened mystics.
he kept the explicit letter of the law (obtainable by man) and he satisfied the implicit demand of the law (unobtainable by man) The NT undeniably shows us the law points to something greater and cannot do it on its own. We say the sacrifice was limited and the blood of bulls can't get us there but instead, the blood of Christ does so these values are not new or made up. The law is limited and it is Christ we end up looking to not because he kept the law without flaw (which is plausible for man) but because he satisfied the demand of the law (which we are unable to do).
 
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Now you have decided I do not need Jesus, because that since He died for me and covered my sins I wish, by His grace, that I might not add any more to His sufferings, thereby crucifying Him afresh. I do not say that I have no sin. I simply don't want any. He told me that He does not condemn me and that I must go, and sin no more. I think He means what He says, so I pray for forgiveness when I sin, and for power to become a more mature son of God, as I receive Him and believe on His name. I have accused you of nothing. I merely shared my observation that your "testimony" referred largely to yourself. What gives you the ability to determine that I do not need Christ? It has been said that the trouble with legalists is that they do not take the law seriously enough. I believe this. I know what it means. Those who sense an obligation to obey God rather than man are always called to task, but those who rely on a relationship with God that calls mainly for justification are considered put upon when they are asked to give a clear, unambiguous scriptural defense for their oxymoronic, antinomianistic Soteriology. The Great Apostle said that the commandment is holy and just and good. Yet evangelical Christendom insists upon twisting nearly everything else he says to mean that God's commandments are the enemy of souls, as though the devil himself wrote them. I wish to be saved from my sins, not in them. I choose to strive to live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. I hunger and thirst after righteousness, and I have been promised by Jesus that I will be filled. If that makes me a heretic, it's a rap I'm willing to take.
Noble sentiments and I agree 100%. Except you are going about it the wrong way. Walk in the Spirit and you will be living way above what the Law requires.
 
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What convinced me to rethink how I had previously viewed the Scriptures was realizing how people are basically lawless and rebellious inside and I had to face that fact about myself. In looking at the Scriptural commentary, I saw that God is loving and just and put His laws into place so that we would know what righteousness looked like, since He called us to be like He is, and He is righteous. Quite honestly, we couldn't figure it out on our own. We needed His mind and He provided His words (commandments, statutes, judgements, law, testimonies - however you find it explained as you work your way through the written Word), then to make it perfectly clear, He gave us His Word made flesh who challenged the complications of the Jewish system that had developed over the years of people extorting the power of having authority without having the character of God. The indictments Jesus makes against the authorities who misused, misinterpreted, and tied up the people are spot on and well earned. But with the Bible in hand, each of us has the resources to find out what it was that God was intending. So when I looked, I realized that the contrast is between God's way (the unquestionably right way as God sees it) and the world's way (which included the gentile/pagan ways and the distorted Jewish ways). In the old testament, the people were encouraged to walk in the way of JWHW and not in the ways of the nations with their other deities. Later the warnings were to avoid the corruptions of their religious system and come back to the instructions that JWHW had given. Jesus fleshed this out. The disciples/apostles and Paul continued that comparison.

In light of that, I see the verses in Galatians and in Colossians to be Paul reminding them that other philosophies are vain, regardless of how the people around judge you - the laws as God gave them are the only safe place for instruction on how to live a righteous life. That we all missed the mark, and some of us to awful degrees missed the mark, is evident, and Jesus is that final once for all sacrifice, doing in reality what the former sacrificial system illustrated. We are SAVED by the precious death and resurrection of our Savior/Messiah. We never could be saved through trying to observe the laws, but that didn't set aside the validity of the laws God gave. He didn't waste His time telling us how to live. As a good parent, He taught His own, and as we parents can understand, the children miss the mark at times, and those consequences teach us that staying close to living as God said is the better idea.

So whether it's murder, adultery, disrespect, Sabbath keeping, of deciding what's most important in my life (what will I worship, what will I trade), or what ever the topic is, the words in Scripture that we have from God to show us how to make life work are there and they do exactly that - give us wisdom to make the right choice. It's always up to us to choose, but all that we need for life and godliness are given to us in our knowledge of Him. Jesus and JWHW spoke the same words. Jesus said, I and my Father are one. And the Holy Spirit will remind us of those sensible words - not other words.

I came to realize that I've shot myself in the foot by trying to divide out the covenants, so I quit looking at it that way. God cut many deals with His people, but He Himself doesn't change. If we want to know Him and pursue Him, we need to look beyond any "contractual checklists" that we put up between the old testament and the new, because those can cause us to stumble. Rather, look at what Jesus said - this is the new deal through my blood - now you have access and a bold entrance to find mercy in a time of need. It never was something we could earn, but if we want to choose the choices that God recommends, we will find those examples in the words (laws, testimonies, statutes, judgements) of God that bring a light to our paths and obey Him with appropriate reverence and that fear that is the beginning of wisdom.
 
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The law is limited and it is Christ we end up looking to not because he kept the law without flaw (which is plausible for man) but because he satisfied the demand of the law (which we are unable to do).
Pretty much every sermon I've ever heard in any denominational category has declared that we look to Christ because He did both. Your capacity for complex thought clearly dwarfs my own. In view of your hypothesis of live-human inability to keep the Sabbath, did Christ break the Sabbath because of his bio-chemical machinations or not? Or did He possess some mystical form of human nature that gave Him an advantage over us for the purpose of obedience? I really would like to know.
 
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What convinced me to rethink how I had previously viewed the Scriptures was realizing how people are basically lawless and rebellious inside and I had to face that fact about myself. In looking at the Scriptural commentary, I saw that God is loving and just and put His laws into place so that we would know what righteousness looked like, since He called us to be like He is, and He is righteous. Quite honestly, we couldn't figure it out on our own. We needed His mind and He provided His words (commandments, statutes, judgements, law, testimonies - however you find it explained as you work your way through the written Word), then to make it perfectly clear, He gave us His Word made flesh who challenged the complications of the Jewish system that had developed over the years of people extorting the power of having authority without having the character of God. The indictments Jesus makes against the authorities who misused, misinterpreted, and tied up the people are spot on and well earned. But with the Bible in hand, each of us has the resources to find out what it was that God was intending. So when I looked, I realized that the contrast is between God's way (the unquestionably right way as God sees it) and the world's way (which included the gentile/pagan ways and the distorted Jewish ways). In the old testament, the people were encouraged to walk in the way of JWHW and not in the ways of the nations with their other deities. Later the warnings were to avoid the corruptions of their religious system and come back to the instructions that JWHW had given. Jesus fleshed this out. The disciples/apostles and Paul continued that comparison.

In light of that, I see the verses in Galatians and in Colossians to be Paul reminding them that other philosophies are vain, regardless of how the people around judge you - the laws as God gave them are the only safe place for instruction on how to live a righteous life. That we all missed the mark, and some of us to awful degrees missed the mark, is evident, and Jesus is that final once for all sacrifice, doing in reality what the former sacrificial system illustrated. We are SAVED by the precious death and resurrection of our Savior/Messiah. We never could be saved through trying to observe the laws, but that didn't set aside the validity of the laws God gave. He didn't waste His time telling us how to live. As a good parent, He taught His own, and as we parents can understand, the children miss the mark at times, and those consequences teach us that staying close to living as God said is the better idea.

So whether it's murder, adultery, disrespect, Sabbath keeping, of deciding what's most important in my life (what will I worship, what will I trade), or what ever the topic is, the words in Scripture that we have from God to show us how to make life work are there and they do exactly that - give us wisdom to make the right choice. It's always up to us to choose, but all that we need for life and godliness are given to us in our knowledge of Him. Jesus and JWHW spoke the same words. Jesus said, I and my Father are one. And the Holy Spirit will remind us of those sensible words - not other words.

I came to realize that I've shot myself in the foot by trying to divide out the covenants, so I quit looking at it that way. God cut many deals with His people, but He Himself doesn't change. If we want to know Him and pursue Him, we need to look beyond any "contractual checklists" that we put up between the old testament and the new, because those can cause us to stumble. Rather, look at what Jesus said - this is the new deal through my blood - now you have access and a bold entrance to find mercy in a time of need. It never was something we could earn, but if we want to choose the choices that God recommends, we will find those examples in the words (laws, testimonies, statutes, judgements) of God that bring a light to our paths and obey Him with appropriate reverence and that fear that is the beginning of wisdom.
I don't mean to be excessively flattering here, but this might just be the most insightful post I've ever read on a religious topic anywhere. I hope the author is involved in teaching somewhere. God is just Good. Sometimes He shows up and speaks through people.
 
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