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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
That is true. However, did you read the article and or listen to the podcast?
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Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
I spoke about my experience wearing a head covering for a time. Although the practice is common for Orthodox married women. Some single Jewish women do so as well.
The Holy Spirit’s direction was not in relation to genitalia, headship, or modesty. He was allowing me to experience life from a different perspective. I needed to know that to minister effectively to women.
Personally speaking, I felt the absence of hair diminished my beauty. I was attractive but lacking in a way I couldn’t deny. I prefer my hair.
Haven't had time for this particular article. But I've heard things like this before. My problem with them is that if we say passages like this arise out of human understanding, we exclude them from being Gods words.That is true. However, did you read the article and or listen to the podcast?
Haven't had time for this particular article. But I've heard things like this before. My problem with them is that if we say passages like this arise out of human understanding, we exclude them from being Gods words.
When we visit Christian brothers and sisters in these cultural setting, should we have the arogant attitude that OUR cultural understanding is superior to theirs, or should we be sensitive to local norms in humility and sensitivity - along the lines of Paul himself, seeking "to be all things to all, for the sake of Christ?"
The context shows it is about Christ being the head of man and man being the head of the woman which were problems Paul had to deal with in the early church and are still prevalent in certain settings today.Absolutely correct. I don’t think head covering is wrong nor do I think it’s wrong not to cover. It’s a matter of conscience
It is not about the hair specifically, it is about women trying to take authority over the man.For those of you who don't agree with this theory; I have a question for you in particular the ladies. Do you cover your hair when in church? And if not how you do reconcile what Paul is saying?
It is not about the hair specifically, it is about women trying to take authority over the man.
Different times. Some women did in that Church and again in that time. I like lol what brother Ricky said "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar".
So no one has to... some do to that I say praise GOD! Its between them and Him.. their God their Father.
I believe as Christians we've all came across the topic of head covering especially in light of
1 Corinthians 11:13-15. However, I want to bring to light another interpretation of those verses based on scholarship. This is mainly based on a podcast episode by Dr. Michael Heiser here (Naked Bible 86: The Head Covering of 1 Corinthians 11:13-15).
If you don't have time to listen I'll summarize so that we can have a discussion. When Paul implied that it is improper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered it's because Paul had a common view at the time that the hair on a female's head was part of her genitalia. This view is based on the medical understanding of his day. It would be improper for woman to display her genitalia (this case hair) when praying to God in the same way a lot of us don't pray to God when naked.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you. I look forward to your responses
EDIT: I've posted two of the articles that speak to that claim (it being genitalia)
Paul’s argument from nature for the veil in 1 Corinthians 11.13-15: A ball instead of a Head Covering
This reference can be very "academic" so I'll post a summary of the main ideas in a next post.
Note: The reasoning for this view is because of the medical knowledge of the time and can be seen in various medical texts from example, Aristotle, Euripedes and
Hippocrates.
I believe as Christians we've all came across the topic of head covering especially in light of
1 Corinthians 11:13-15. However, I want to bring to light another interpretation of those verses based on scholarship. This is mainly based on a podcast episode by Dr. Michael Heiser here (Naked Bible 86: The Head Covering of 1 Corinthians 11:13-15).
If you don't have time to listen I'll summarize so that we can have a discussion. When Paul implied that it is improper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered it's because Paul had a common view at the time that the hair on a female's head was part of her genitalia. This view is based on the medical understanding of his day. It would be improper for woman to display her genitalia (this case hair) when praying to God in the same way a lot of us don't pray to God when naked.
I would love to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you. I look forward to your responses
EDIT: I've posted two of the articles that speak to that claim (it being genitalia)
Paul’s argument from nature for the veil in 1 Corinthians 11.13-15: A ball instead of a Head Covering
This reference can be very "academic" so I'll post a summary of the main ideas in a next post.
Note: The reasoning for this view is because of the medical knowledge of the time and can be seen in various medical texts from example, Aristotle, Euripedes and
Hippocrates.
The Greek usage of that passage implies long in a feminine way. Many pagans at the time acted very effiminately with jewelry in their hair and that kind of thing. Paul himself grew his hair out when he took a vow later in the epistles.Paul said that men shouldn't cover their heads and if a man has long hair it's a disgrace to him. See 1 Corinthians 11:14 & verse 7
Why if I might ask?