genealogies

Vicky gould · Sep 1, 2019

In order to be a priest a Jewish man needed to trace his line back through a genealogy but with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple what happened to the genealogies? Am I mistaken that the only two genealogies that survive is the one in Matthew and in Luke?

I also understand that Joseph was the descended from the Royal Line but because he was descended from King Jeconiah he was ineligible to have been king, But Mary is another story in that she also is descended from the royal line but does not have the disqualifying King Jeconiah in her line. Mary was eligible and because of that her Son, Jesus Christ must be the Messiah or there can be no Messiah.

Like to hear what people think about these things. Thanks

Jonaitis · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
In order to be a priest a Jewish man needed to trace his line back through a genealogy but with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple what happened to the genealogies? Am I mistaken that the only two genealogies that survive is the one in Matthew and in Luke?

I am glad I am not the only one who thought about this. Many claim to be the direct descendants of Aaron, but in the Old Testament it took more than being a descendant to be a priest, you had to be the son of a current high priest. Priesthood isn't passed on to every person who is descended from Aaron, otherwise Ithamar's children were priests, and his children's children were priests without an end. Obviously, you're a priest if you are a son of the current high priest, and if you do not carry on the name of high priest your own priesthood stops at you and cannot be inherited to the next generation. I have not heard of any Jew today who can claim to be the direct descendant of the last high priest, especially since Judaism had to change the way the office was occupied around the time the Lord Jesus was on earth.

Vicky gould said:
I also understand that Joseph was the descended from the Royal Line but because he was descended from King Jeconiah he was ineligible to have been king, But Mary is another story in that she also is descended from the royal line but does not have the disqualifying King Jeconiah in her line. Mary was eligible and because of that her Son, Jesus Christ must be the Messiah or there can be no Messiah.

Like to hear what people think about these things. Thanks

In Ezra and Nehemiah, Zerubbabel the son of Pedaiah, son of Shealtiel, son of Jeconiah was recognized by the nation as the rightful and eligible line. The Lord descended from Zerubbabel.

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

Jonaitis said:
I am glad I am not the only one who thought about this. Many claim to be the direct descendants of Aaron, but in the Old Testament it took more than being a descendant to be a priest, you had to be the son of a current high priest. Priesthood isn't passed on to every person who is descended from Aaron, otherwise Ithamar's children were priests, and his children's children were priests without an end. Obviously, you're a priest if you are a son of the current high priest, and if you do not carry on the name of high priest your own priesthood stops at you and cannot be inherited to the next generation. I have not heard of any Jew today who can claim to be the direct descendant of the last high priest, especially since Judaism had to change the way the office was occupied around the time the Lord Jesus was on earth.

In Ezra and Nehemiah, Zerubbabel the son of Pedaiah, son of Shealtiel, son of Jeconiah was recognized by the nation as the rightful and eligible line. The Lord descended from Zerubbabel.

Hi Jonaitis, good stuff can’t wait for the Lord to make it all known but what a blessing reading and studying it. I would ask how the curse of Jeconiah is overcome in your understanding. Thanks.

TreWalker · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
Hi Jonaitis, good stuff can’t wait for the Lord to make it all known but what a blessing reading and studying it. I would ask how the curse of Jeconiah is overcome in your understanding. Thanks.

Because it was to be recorded in his lifetime.

Jer 22:30 Thus says Adonai:
“Write this man childless,
a man who will not prosper in his days.
For no man of his seed will prosper,
sitting on the throne of David
and ruling again in Judah.”

It could be understood that while he lived (in his days) he would be seen as childless and not one son would rule. Which was fulfilled by the immediate exile into Babylon.

Another thought is that Joseph was not the blood father of Yeshua, but Miriam was a mother through blood. Joseph's genealogy does not need to play a part in Yeshua being priest and king of Israel. His blood is covered by Miriam, and his Father covers his right to serve as High Priest.

Jonaitis said:
In Ezra and Nehemiah, Zerubbabel the son of Pedaiah, son of Shealtiel, son of Jeconiah was recognized by the nation as the rightful and eligible line. The Lord descended from Zerubbabel.

Another hint that the curse of Yehoiakin was not meant to last throughout his generations but only in his lifetime.

TreWalker · Sep 2, 2019

Jonaitis said:
I have not heard of any Jew today who can claim to be the direct descendant of the last high priest, especially since Judaism had to change the way the office was occupied around the time the Lord Jesus was on earth.

And ironically enough the Chasidim believe it will be Messiah who straightens out the genealogies when he comes. And this is exactly what Yeshua will do according to the prophets. He restores all things, especially the House of Israel.

Jonaitis · Sep 2, 2019

TreWalker said:
Another thought is that Joseph was not the blood father of Yeshua, but Miriam was a mother through blood. Joseph's genealogy does not need to play a part in Yeshua being priest and king of Israel. His blood is covered by Miriam, and his Father covers his right to serve as High Priest.

Joseph's genealogy is important, otherwise Matthew and Luke would not have recorded it. Even if our Lord was not related by blood to Joseph, he must still be the legitimate son of a male in the line of David. It was through his mother that he biologically descends from David, but it is legally through his father that he is made the heir to the throne.

TreWalker said:
Another hint that the curse of Yehoiakin was not meant to last throughout his generations but only in his lifetime.

It must be in his lifetime, since he did have children while in exile, whereas this curse suggests he would be childless.

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

TreWalker said:
Because it was to be recorded in his lifetime.

Jer 22:30 Thus says Adonai:
“Write this man childless,
a man who will not prosper in his days.
For no man of his seed will prosper,
sitting on the throne of David
and ruling again in Judah.”

It could be understood that while he lived (in his days) he would be seen as childless and not one son would rule. Which was fulfilled by the immediate exile into Babylon.

Another thought is that Joseph was not the blood father of Yeshua, but Miriam was a mother through blood. Joseph's genealogy does not need to play a part in Yeshua being priest and king of Israel. His blood is covered by Miriam, and his Father covers his right to serve as High Priest.

Another hint that the curse of Yehoiakin was not meant to last throughout his generations but only in his lifetime.

When seed is used in this it speaks of the entire line. Sorry for any confusion I didn’t say Joseph was the Lord’s father biologically. But the Davidic line indeed ran through Joseph’s line if it was not for Jeconiah’s curse Joseph rightfully would have been the rightful heir. But this was the heartbreaking condition the line had fallen into. Through Mary’s line the Davidic line ran but through but through a male relative of hers who was not under the curse

ralliann · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
In order to be a priest a Jewish man needed to trace his line back through a genealogy but with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple what happened to the genealogies? Am I mistaken that the only two genealogies that survive is the one in Matthew and in Luke?

I also understand that Joseph was the descended from the Royal Line but because he was descended from King Jeconiah he was ineligible to have been king, But Mary is another story in that she also is descended from the royal line but does not have the disqualifying King Jeconiah in her line. Mary was eligible and because of that her Son, Jesus Christ must be the Messiah or there can be no Messiah.

Like to hear what people think about these things. Thanks

Concerning Mary's line....A woman could pass on her tribal heritage only if two conditions were present.
Her Father had no male descendants to pass them onto, and the woman married within her fathers tribe. Thereby not removing from tribe to tribe the heritage.
Jesus royal line also makes him eligible to fulfill the promise to king David in his office unto the order of Melchzedek (no genealogy required), rather than that of Aaron.

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

TreWalker said:
And ironically enough the Chasidim believe it will be Messiah who straightens out the genealogies when he comes. And this is exactly what Yeshua will do according to the prophets. He restores all things, especially the House of Israel.

I agree He makes all things new but there are really only two genealogies needed and they are both in His unbreakable Word. The Lord will be the Great High Priest and will serve over a new order of priests. Yes, Israel will be totally destroyed, David's fallen tent, and she will be restored with the Faithful Remnant filling that priesthood fulfilling the promise that Israel would be a Royal Nation of Priests who will serve in the Millennial Temple teaching the Gentile nations who have been commanded to come on the Feast of Tabernacles and other appointed times.

TreWalker · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
Yes, Israel will be totally destroyed, David's fallen tent, and she will be restored with the Faithful Remnant

Yet if a remnant remains to be restored Israel is not totally destroyed. Jews not believe nor teach that Israel is completely consumed and destroyed. Because the Tanakh does not proclaim such a thing, and neither does Yeshua, the King of the Jews. Who restores Israel and fulfills the promises of Jacob. And that is what he draws all nations to participate in. The restoration of the house of Israel. The place where his glory resides and the purpose of his will.

Isaiah 66
20 “Then they will bring all your kinsmen from all the nations, as an offering to Adonai, on horses and in chariots, and on litters, mules and camels, to My holy mountain Jerusalem,” says Adonai, “just as Bnei-Yisrael bring their grain offering in a clean vessel to the House of Adonai. 21 I will also take some of them as priests and for Levites,” says Adonai.

22 “For just as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, will endure before Me”—it is a declaration of Adonai—“so your descendants and your name will endure.”

Isaiah 61
4 They will rebuild the ancient ruins.
They will restore former desolations.
They will repair the ruined cities,
the desolations of many generations.
5 Strangers will stand and shepherd your flocks,
children of foreigners will be your plowmen and vinedressers.
6 But you will be called the kohanimof Adonai,
They will speak of you as the ministers of our God.
You will eat the wealth of nations
and boast in their abundance.

7 Instead of your shame, double portion.
instead of disgrace they will sing for joy.
Therefore in their land they will inherit a double portion;
they will have everlasting joy.
8 For I, Adonai, love justice.
I hate robbery in the burnt offering.
In faithfulness I will reward My people
and cut an eternal covenant with them.
9 Then their offspring will be known among the nations,
their descendants among the peoples.
All who see them will recognize them,
for they are the seed that Adonaihas blessed.

Matthew 1
20 But while he considered these things, behold, an angel of Adonai appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Miriam as your wife, for the Child conceived in her is from the Ruach ha-Kodesh. 21 She will give birth to a son; and you shall call His name Yeshua, for He will save His people from their sins.”

Matthew 10:5-7 Tree of Life Version (TLV)
5 Yeshua sent out these twelve and ordered them, “Do not go to the Gentiles, and do not enter into any Samaritan town. 6 But go instead to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 As you go, proclaim, ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near!’

Matthew 15:23-25 Tree of Life Version (TLV)
24 But He responded, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Acts 2
36 “Therefore let the whole house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him—this Yeshua whom you had crucified—both Lord and Messiah!”

Luke 13:35
Look, your house is left to you desolate! For I tell you, you will never see Me until you say, ‘Baruch ha-ba b’shem Adonai. Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’”

Zechariah 12
10 “Then I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication, when they will look toward Me whom they pierced.They will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son and grieve bitterly for him, as one grieves for a firstborn.

Amos 9
David’s Sukkah Restored
11 “In that day I will raise up David’s fallen sukkah.
I will restore its breaches,
raise up its ruins,
and rebuild it as in days of old
12 —so they may possess the remnant of Edom
and all the nations called by My Name.”
It is a declaration of Adonai, the One who will do this.
13 “Behold, days are soon coming”
—it is a declaration of Adonai—
“when the plowman will overtake the reaper
and the one treading grapes, the one sowing seed.
The mountains will drip sweet wine
and all the hills will melt over.
14 Yes, I will restore the captivity of My people Israel.
They will rebuild desolated cities and dwell in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine.
They will also make gardens and eat their fruit.
15 Yes, I will plant them on their land,
and they will never again be plucked up
out of their land that I have given to them.”
Adonai, your God, has said it.

In what day? The day Yeshua stands as a banner to all the world. His final goal and act of grace and forgiveness. Is upon the house of Israel!

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

TreWalker said:
Yet if a remnant remains to be restored Israel is not totally destroyed. Jews not believe nor teach that Israel is completely consumed and destroyed. Because the Tanakh does not proclaim such a thing, and neither does Yeshua, the King of the Jews. Who restores Israel and fulfills the promises of Jacob. And that is what he draws all nations to participate in. The restoration of the house of Israel. The place where his glory resides and the purpose of his will.

Isaiah 66
20 “Then they will bring all your kinsmen from all the nations, as an offering to Adonai, on horses and in chariots, and on litters, mules and camels, to My holy mountain Jerusalem,” says Adonai, “just as Bnei-Yisrael bring their grain offering in a clean vessel to the House of Adonai. 21 I will also take some of them as priests and for Levites,” says Adonai.

22 “For just as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, will endure before Me”—it is a declaration of Adonai—“so your descendants and your name will endure.”

Isaiah 61
4 They will rebuild the ancient ruins.
They will restore former desolations.
They will repair the ruined cities,
the desolations of many generations.
5 Strangers will stand and shepherd your flocks,
children of foreigners will be your plowmen and vinedressers.
6 But you will be called the kohanimof Adonai,
They will speak of you as the ministers of our God.
You will eat the wealth of nations
and boast in their abundance.

7 Instead of your shame, double portion.
instead of disgrace they will sing for joy.
Therefore in their land they will inherit a double portion;
they will have everlasting joy.
8 For I, Adonai, love justice.
I hate robbery in the burnt offering.
In faithfulness I will reward My people
and cut an eternal covenant with them.
9 Then their offspring will be known among the nations,
their descendants among the peoples.
All who see them will recognize them,
for they are the seed that Adonaihas blessed.

Matthew 1
20 But while he considered these things, behold, an angel of Adonai appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Miriam as your wife, for the Child conceived in her is from the Ruach ha-Kodesh. 21 She will give birth to a son; and you shall call His name Yeshua, for He will save His people from their sins.”

Matthew 10:5-7 Tree of Life Version (TLV)
5 Yeshua sent out these twelve and ordered them, “Do not go to the Gentiles, and do not enter into any Samaritan town. 6 But go instead to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 As you go, proclaim, ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near!’

Matthew 15:23-25 Tree of Life Version (TLV)
24 But He responded, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”

Acts 2
36 “Therefore let the whole house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him—this Yeshua whom you had crucified—both Lord and Messiah!”

Luke 13:35
Look, your house is left to you desolate! For I tell you, you will never see Me until you say, ‘Baruch ha-ba b’shem Adonai. Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’”

Zechariah 12
10 “Then I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication, when they will look toward Me whom they pierced.They will mourn for him as one mourns for an only son and grieve bitterly for him, as one grieves for a firstborn.

Amos 9
David’s Sukkah Restored
11 “In that day I will raise up David’s fallen sukkah.
I will restore its breaches,
raise up its ruins,
and rebuild it as in days of old
12 —so they may possess the remnant of Edom
and all the nations called by My Name.”
It is a declaration of Adonai, the One who will do this.
13 “Behold, days are soon coming”
—it is a declaration of Adonai—
“when the plowman will overtake the reaper
and the one treading grapes, the one sowing seed.
The mountains will drip sweet wine
and all the hills will melt over.
14 Yes, I will restore the captivity of My people Israel.
They will rebuild desolated cities and dwell in them.
They will plant vineyards and drink their wine.
They will also make gardens and eat their fruit.
15 Yes, I will plant them on their land,
and they will never again be plucked up
out of their land that I have given to them.”
Adonai, your God, has said it.

In what day? The day Yeshua stands as a banner to all the world. His final goal and act of grace and forgiveness. Is upon the house of Israel!

What about the act of Grace the Lord pours out on what will be a faithful remnant of Gentile believers at the end of the Millennial Kingdom?

As we are told in a number of passages Israel is made up of two streams of people making up the nation of Israel. One stream is the Israel who are Jews in the flesh only. The other stream are Jews who have believe and through the circumcision of their hearts have become as Paul says true Israel. When the Lord promised to destroy all Israel He was speaking of the Israel who are Jews in the flesh alone. This is the Israel who will be destroyed who Scripture says of them they claim to be Jews but are not. We have these same two types of streams in the Gentiles also. One stream of Gentiles is apostate and will remain apostate leaving the Lord to destroy them physically and judge them at the Great White Throne where they will be cast into the Lake of Fire. But there will be a remnant who has come to belief in the Lamb of God having come up to Jerusalem where they will be taught of our Passover Lamb and the absolute need of His Shed Blood for our sins. These Gentiles like the Jewish Faithful Remnant are His sheep and when they hear His Call they respond.

TreWalker · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
What about the act of Grace the Lord pours out on what will be a faithful remnant of Gentile believers at the end of the Millennial Kingdom?

It was always God’s plan to use Israel to reach the nations. Psalms 67 The rejection of the Jewish leadership to accept the word of God forced Paul to go to the gentiles. So as Isaiah 49:6 indicates Israel’s rejection caused the salvation among the gentiles, however God did not do this so the church could in turn judge and attack Israel. But the opposite.

Salvation has come to the nations to provoke Israel to jealousy. Romans 11:11 God created a system of mutual dependency between Israel and the nations. Without Israel the gospel would have never made it to Rome. And now God wanted to use the Romans and other gentile believer to reach out to the Jewish people. Sadly this did not happen for a long time. Romans 11 is not merely a teaching to the Romans of Paul’s day, but a prophetic plea to the church in the future to honor your elder brother in the faith. This is God’s order and he will bless this order. Judging Israel and the Jewish people can bring one under judgement. Romans 11:17-24

The olive tree is spiritual composed of righteous born again people. Through the blood of Israel’s Messiah the gentiles who were once aliens have been brought near to the commonwealth of Israel, but not identical too it. So being gentiles have the figure of the olive tree which is the spiritual commonwealth of Israel. It is spiritual because only righteous born again believers are in the olive tree. Weather Jews or gentiles. The olive tree is a commonwealth with an allegiance to the king of the Jews. Also, the olive tree is the commonwealth of Israel because gentiles who have been grafted in to the olive tree owe allegiance to Israel’s book, the bible, Israel’s God and Israel’s Messiah.

It is similar to the British commonwealth where the people of Canada and Australia are not actually citizens of England but owe allegiance to the Queen, and have a special relationship with the British people. Gentiles who have trusted in Yeshua the Messiah have a special relationship with Israel, it’s people and land, and have sworn allegiance to the king of the Jews. Gentile believers have a special relationship with Jewish believers, having both been made part of the olive tree.

God’s desire was to use the gentile believers to reach Israel, but it didn’t immediately go that way. Paul tried to address the issue with the book of Romans but it came back with a vengeance.

And replacement theology was born. The promises of restoration to Israel really meant the restoration of the church. Promises to the land of Israel to physical descendants of Abraham are canceled and now mean that believers will inherit the earth. All of God’s promises to Israel are now fulfilled in believers. And the promises to physical Israel are null and void.

The land of Israel now means the world, the holy land is the world…

The holy land is the entire globe…
And is no longer the privilege of an ethnic few…

The new testament is globalizing and universalizing the blessing of Abraham…

Earlier it was tribal and local, now it is global and universal…

The Jews are no longer God’s people in the new testament, but we as Christians are God’s chosen people…

The old testament is a complete fraud…

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

TreWalker said:
It was always God’s plan to use Israel to reach the nations. Psalms 67 The rejection of the Jewish leadership to accept the word of God forced Paul to go to the gentiles. So as Isaiah 49:6 indicates Israel’s rejection caused the salvation among the gentiles, however God did not do this so the church could in turn judge and attack Israel. But the opposite.

Salvation has come to the nations to provoke Israel to jealousy. Romans 11:11 God created a system of mutual dependency between Israel and the nations. Without Israel the gospel would have never made it to Rome. And now God wanted to use the Romans and other gentile believer to reach out to the Jewish people. Sadly this did not happen for a long time. Romans 11 is not merely a teaching to the Romans of Paul’s day, but a prophetic plea to the church in the future to honor your elder brother in the faith. This is God’s order and he will bless this order. Judging Israel and the Jewish people can bring one under judgement. Romans 11:17-24

The olive tree is spiritual composed of righteous born again people. Through the blood of Israel’s Messiah the gentiles who were once aliens have been brought near to the commonwealth of Israel, but not identical too it. So being gentiles have the figure of the olive tree which is the spiritual commonwealth of Israel. It is spiritual because only righteous born again believers are in the olive tree. Weather Jews or gentiles. The olive tree is a commonwealth with an allegiance to the king of the Jews. Also, the olive tree is the commonwealth of Israel because gentiles who have been grafted in to the olive tree owe allegiance to Israel’s book, the bible, Israel’s God and Israel’s Messiah.

It is similar to the British commonwealth where the people of Canada and Australia are not actually citizens of England but owe allegiance to the Queen, and have a special relationship with the British people. Gentiles who have trusted in Yeshua the Messiah have a special relationship with Israel, it’s people and land, and have sworn allegiance to the king of the Jews. Gentile believers have a special relationship with Jewish believers, having both been made part of the olive tree.

God’s desire was to use the gentile believers to reach Israel, but it didn’t immediately go that way. Paul tried to address the issue with the book of Romans but it came back with a vengeance.

And replacement theology was born. The promises of restoration to Israel really meant the restoration of the church. Promises to the land of Israel to physical descendants of Abraham are canceled and now mean that believers will inherit the earth. All of God’s promises to Israel are now fulfilled in believers. And the promises to physical Israel are null and void.

The land of Israel now means the world, the holy land is the world…

The holy land is the entire globe…
And is no longer the privilege of an ethnic few…

The new testament is globalizing and universalizing the blessing of Abraham…

Earlier it was tribal and local, now it is global and universal…

The Jews are no longer God’s people in the new testament, but we as Christians are God’s chosen people…

The old testament is a complete fraud…[/QUOTE

Deleted because I went goofy and misread. This a much better post. Your kindness in letting me know much appreciated

TreWalker · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
If the O.T. Is a fraud you just made the N. T. A fraud as well. The O.T. Is continually quoted in the New. There is no other book the Lord quoted than Deuteronomy. The Lord validate Jonah and Daniel.

Please reread, you have misunderstood. Replacement theology provides that conclusion. From 'and replacement theology is born ' on is a picture of RT.

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

TreWalker said:
Please reread, you have misunderstood. Replacement theology provides that conclusion. From 'and replacement theology is born ' on is a picture of RT.

I am so sorry. I will re-read and delete my post to you. For me the most blatant form of replacement theology is in the End Times. An apostate Israel replaced by an apostate church. A false Christ who will be so perfect a counterfeit he could almost fool the elect. Then the elect in our day expects an anti-Christ from Rome, Europe or ??? How badly would you be fooled by such a Messiah. The travesty just goes on and on I am sad to say.

Vicky gould · Sep 2, 2019

Vicky gould said:
I am so sorry. I will re-read and delete my post to you. For me the most blatant form of replacement theology is in the End Times. An apostate Israel replaced by an apostate church. A false Christ who will be so perfect a counterfeit he could almost fool the elect. Then the elect in our day expects an anti-Christ from Rome, Europe or ??? How badly would you be fooled by such a Messiah. The travesty just goes on and on I am sad to say.

Dave-W · Sep 3, 2019

Vicky gould said:
In order to be a priest a Jewish man needed to trace his line back through a genealogy but with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple what happened to the genealogies? Am I mistaken that the only two genealogies that survive is the one in Matthew and in Luke?

I also understand that Joseph was the descended from the Royal Line but because he was descended from King Jeconiah he was ineligible to have been king, But Mary is another story in that she also is descended from the royal line but does not have the disqualifying King Jeconiah in her line. Mary was eligible and because of that her Son, Jesus Christ must be the Messiah or there can be no Messiah.

Like to hear what people think about these things. Thanks

Mary could not figure into the royal line. It was completely Patrilineal. (had to go thru Joseph)

Besides, as far as we can tell of Mary's lineage, she was from the tribe of Levi.

Dave-W · Sep 3, 2019

ralliann said:
Jesus royal line also makes him eligible to fulfill the promise to king David in his office unto the order of Melchzedek (no genealogy required), rather than that of Aaron.

That makes no sense. The royal line has to be thru Judah, not Levi or Melchizedek.

Dave-W · Sep 3, 2019

Vicky gould said:
Sorry for any confusion I didn’t say Joseph was the Lord’s father biologically.

Biology was not a requirement. By Joseph raising our Lord as his own child, it was an adoption, which would put Him into the royal line.

ralliann · Sep 3, 2019

Dave-W said:
That makes no sense. The royal line has to be thru Judah, not Levi or Melchizedek.

The royal line through Judah is because of his promise to king David. The law only says a King must be from among your brethren, not a foreigner. Just as Saul was not from Judah. As for Melchizedek there is no geneaology required, for either his order of Priesthood or royalty. I thought I made that clear?

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