The Difference between Daniel`s 70th Week and the Tribulation.

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It does not say specifically -- timelines have to do with specifying years, months, weeks, days etc.
The problem is whether a generation is 70 years, or by strength 80 years, the 1260 days in Revelation, and the 42 months in Revelation - if taken as a day being a year would be way beyond the length of a generation. 1260 years vs 70 or 80 years.
 
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Hi BABerean2,

So Israel`s `transgression, end of rebellion & reconciliation, plus the bringing in of everlasting righteousness, and sealing up vision and prophecy and finally anointing the Most Holy,`has all been completed? (Dan. 9: 24)

Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn,

They have all been completed.

Ralph Woodrow, Great Prophecies of the Bible

3. THE MOST HOLY WAS TO BE ANOINTED. We believe this reference is to Jesus Christ. Gabriel announced to Mary: "The HOLY thing that shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God" (Lk. 1:35). Peter referred to him as "the HOLY ONE" (Acts 3:14). John referred to him as "the HOLY ONE" (1 John 2:20). Even demons had to recognize him as "The HOLY ONE of God" (Mk. 1:24).

David spoke concerning Christ: neither wilt thou suffer thine HOLY ONE to see corruption" (Acts 2:27). In Revelation 3:7 he is called "HOLY" and the heavenly creatures rest not from saying: "HOLY, HOLY, HOLY" before this one "which was, and is, and is to come" (Rev. 4:8).

From the going forth of the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem unto Messiah was to be 483 years. When this time was fulfilled, those who knew this prophecy, were expecting the appearance of the Messiah, that is, the Christ. (Christ is the Greek form of the Hebrew word Messiah.) Thus when John came baptizing, "the people were in EXPECTATION, and all men mused in their hearts of John, whether he were the Christ or not" (Lk. 3:15). John plainly told them that he was not the Christ -he was only the forerunner. When Jesus appeared on the scene, John cried: "Behold the Lamb of God"! The time had now come that Jesus should be "made manifest to Israel" (John 1:29 31). He was then baptized and when he had prayed, "the heaven was opened. And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased" (Lk. 3:21,22).

He had appeared to Israel right on time! Thus Jesus, in evident reference to the time prophecy of Daniel, said: "The TIME is fulfilled" (Mk. 1:15) and as the Messiah, the Christ, the "anointed one", he preached the gospel. When he entered the synagogue of Nazareth, he announced: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because he hath ANOINTED me" (Lk. 4:18-22). Acts 4:27 mentioned Jesus as the "holy" one that the Lord "ANOINTED." And Peter mentioned that "God ANOINTED Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost... who went about doing good, healing all who were oppressed of the devil" (Acts 10:38).

Daniel's prophecy revealed that the time period unto the Messiah would be 69 weeks (483 years). This measured to the time when Jesus was baptized and anointed to begin his ministry as the Messiah, the Christ, the "Anointed One.

4. MESSIAH WAS TO BE CUT OFF. The 69 weeks (7 plus 62) were to measure unto Messiah "and AFTER" the 69 weeks "shall Messiah be cut off." Now "AFTER" 69 weeks does not and cannot mean "in" or "during" the 69 weeks! If Messiah was to be cut off AFTER the 69 weeks, there is only one week left in which he could have been "cut off"-the 70th week! -after three and a half years of ministry.

The term "cut off" implies that Messiah would not die a natural death; he would be murdered! So also had Isaiah prophesied using an equivalent word: "He was cut off out of the land of the living" (Isaiah 53:8).

The details about how Messiah was "cut off" are given in the gospels.

5. "TO FINISH THE TRANSGRESSION", or literally, "to finish transgression." As Jesus was dying, he cried: "It is FINISHED." At Calvary, Jesus finished transgression by becoming sin for us. No future sacrifice can ever finish transgression; it was finished at Calvary (Heb. 9:15). "He was wounded for our TRANSGRESSIONS" (Isaiah 53:5).

6. "TO MAKE AN END OF SINS." Here the basic thought is repeated. If we understand the glorious significance of what was accomplished at Calvary, we know that here there was truly an end made of sins.

Jesus, who came "to save his people from their sins", accomplished this when he "put away sin by the sacrifice of himself" (Mt. 1:21; Heb. 9:26). "It is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins... But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever...hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified...And their sins... remember no more" (Heb. 10:4-11). The old system of sacrifices could never make an end of sins, but Christ-by the sacrifice of himself-did make an end of sins, even as the prophecy had said!

John announced him as "the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sins of the world" (John 1:29). "Christ died for our sins" (1 Cor. 15:3). He "bare our sins in his own body on the tree" (l Peter 2:24) and "hath once suffered for sins" (3:18). "He was manifested to take away our sins" (l John 3:5). This "end of sins" was accomplished at Calvary.

All of this does not mean, of course, that right at this point men quit sinning. This was not the case. But what the scripture does mean is that at Calvary the eternal sacrifice for sin was made, so that any and all-past, present, or future -who will be forgiven of sins will be forgiven because our Lord' s death almost 2,000 years ago made an "end of sins"!

7. "TO MAKE RECONCILIATION FOR INIQUITY." The word reconciliation used here is the same word that is used so frequently in the book of Leviticus where it is rendered "to make atonement." This, too, was part of our Lord's redemptive work. Surely "reconciliation" is a present reality-because of Calvary!

Jesus, "our merciful and faithful high priest" made "RECONCILIATION for the sins of the people" (Heb. 2:17). "Having made peace through the blood...to RECONCILE all things unto himself...and you, that were sometimes alienated...hath he RECONCILED...through death" (Col. 1:20-22; Eph. 2:16).

"God was in Christ, RECONCILING the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of RECONCILIATION" (2 Cor. 5:19). Plainly, "reconciliation for iniquity" was accomplished by Jesus, for he "gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all INIQUITY" (Titus 2:14), and "the Lord hath laid on him the INIQUITY of us all" (Isaiah 53:6).

8. ''TO BRING IN EVER LASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS." This too was accomplished by the redemptive work of Christ! The great redemption chapter of Isaiah 53 had prophesied: "My righteous servant shall make many RIGHTEOUS." Paul put it this way: "By the righteousness of one...shall many be made RIGHTEOUS... unto eternal life by Jesus Christ" (Rom. 5:17-21). He who came "to fulfill all righteousness'' (Mt. 3:15) and who "loved righteousness, and hated iniquity", was "anointed" of God (Heb. 1:9) and made unto us wisdom, and RIGHTEOUSNESS, and sanctification, and redemption" (1 Cor. 1:30). "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto RIGHTEOUSNESS" (1 Peter 2:24). "Even the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God...through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood to declare his RIGHTEOUSNESS for the remission of sins" (Rom. 3:21-26). "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the RIGHTEOUSNESS of God in him" (2 Cor. 5:21). "Everyone that doeth RIGHTEOUSNESS is born of him" (1 John 2:29).

Taking all of these verses into consideration, we ask: Did Christ in his coming to earth provide righteousness through his redemptive work? All Christians acknowledge that he did. We ask then: Was not this righteousness that he brought in everlasting? Of course. Surely no Christians would deny that the righteousness of Christ is "everlasting righteousness."

"By his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained ETERNAL REDEMPTION "-everlasting righteousness-" for us" (Heb. 9:12). This eternal or everlasting righteousness is contrasted to the old sacrifices under the law which were only of a temporary nature. But Christ, once for all time, offered himself-thus providing, as the prophecy of Daniel had said, "everlasting righteousness."

One only has to read the great redemption passages of Romans, Corinthians, Colossians, Ephesians, and Hebrews to see how an "end" of transgressions and sins, "reconciliation for iniquity", and "everlasting righteousness" were all accomplished at Calvary by our Lord Jesus Christ!

In view of this, we see no basis for the futurist teaching that none of these things have yet been fulfilled, but are to be linked with a supposed seventieth week at the end of the age! To teach such is contradictory and tends to take away from the glory of that great redemption of Calvary which so beautifully and completely fulfilled these prophecies!

9. "TO SEAL UP VISION AND PROPHECY", or literally, "to seal up vision and prophet." The use of the metaphor "to seal" is derived from the ancient custom of attaching a seal to a document to show that it was genuine (See 1 Kings 21:8; Jer. 32:10, 11; cf. John 6:27; 1 Cor. 9:2). Christ "sealed" Old Testament prophecy by fulfilling what was written of him.

Repeatedly we read concerning him: "...that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets." Acts 3:18 says: "Those things which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer he hath so fulfilled:" Truly Jesus fulfilled what was written in the visions and prophecies of the Old Testament concerning him, and thus he "sealed" them-showed that they were genuine. 'They are they", he said, "which testify of me" (John 5:39). "All the prophets and the law prophesied until John" (Mt. 11:13), then John presented Jesus as he that was to be "made manifest to Israel." Jesus was the one that was to come-and we look for none other. He is the fulfillment of vision and prophecy.
 
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Hi Marilyn,
They have all been completed.......
All of this does not mean, of course, that right at this point men quit sinning. . Surely "reconciliation" is a present reality-because of Calvary!

Hi jgr,

Mmmmmm `Surely`....... & surely what God does for us, God will do for Israel soon, so that the reconciliation, atonement, forgiveness of national rebellion etc for YOUR PEOPLE AND FOR YOUR HOLY CITY also becomes a `present reality.`

Marilyn.
 
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All bible timelines are examples of a single contiguous timeline. Slicing and dicing them up and inserting vast spans of time of unknown lingth into them is never approved of in the Bible.

Not really - the burden of "proof" is on the one who wants to insert an easter-bunny into the text (so to speak). Pointing out that there is no case in all of scripture where easter-bunnies can be inserted into apocalyptic timelines is simply an appeal to fact.

Same is true with the imaginative idea of shredding Bible timelines into disconnected segments with ad hoc inserts of 1000's of years (unknown lengths of time) stuck into the timeline by the reader.. a truly easter-bunny like action not at all approved of in scripture

Hi BobRyan,

You are seeing things, bro, the easterbunny! Really, Santa Claus is next.

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Hi jgr,

Mmmmmm `Surely`....... & surely what God does for us, God will do for Israel soon, so that the reconciliation, atonement, forgiveness of national rebellion etc for YOUR PEOPLE AND FOR YOUR HOLY CITY also becomes a `present reality.`

Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn,

God has been doing for Israel what He has been doing for the entire human race since Calvary.

Drawing them to Himself by the thousands.

From Jewish Christian - Wikipedia :

"The 19th century saw at least 250,000 Jews convert to Christianity according to existing records of various societies.[144] Data from the Pew Research Center has it that, as of 2013, about 1.6 million adult American Jews identify themselves as Christians, most as Protestants.[145][146][147] According to the same data, most of the Jews who identify themselves as some sort of Christian (1.6 million) were raised as Jews or are Jews by ancestry.[146] According to a 2012 study, 17% of Jews in Russia identify themselves as Christians.[148][149]"

"Soon" began at Pentecost and has never ceased.
 
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The Difference between Daniel`s 70th week and the Tribulation.

Daniel`s 70th Week.


`Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city, to finish the transgression, (National rebellion)…..and to anoint the Most Holy.` (Dan. 9: 24)

This prophecy was given to the people of Israel revealing the time of chastisement by God till there would be atonement and National Deliverance.

God declared this long ago.

`He will provide atonement for His land and His people.` (Deut. 32: 43)


Most of the 70 x 7 years have been fulfilled with only 7 years to go. In Revelation 8 we see the beginning of this atonement for Israel`s national rebellion. The Lord, the High Priest has paid the price with His precious blood, and we see Him represented before God`s throne in the heavenly sanctuary, interceding for Israel.


Throughout Rev. 8 - 19 we read of the Lord`s Mediatorial role for Israel, and we see the `temple` in heaven opened. The Ark of the Covenant is seen, the Lord Himself coming forth, bringing National Deliverance to Israel.

All bible timelines are examples of a single contiguous timeline. Slicing and dicing them up and inserting vast spans of time of unknown lingth into them is never approved of in the Bible.

Hi BobRyan,
Easy to say, harder to prove.
Marilyn.

Not really - the burden of "proof" is on the one who wants to insert an easter-bunny into the text (so to speak). Pointing out that there is no case in all of scripture where easter-bunnies can be inserted into apocalyptic timelines is simply an appeal to fact.

In Dan 7 - That 70 week = 490 days = 490 day-for-year apocalyptic timeline cannot have an easter-bunny style 2000 + days (if using days) or 2300 years (if using years) shoved inside it.

Same is true with the imaginative idea of shredding Bible timelines into disconnected segments with ad hoc inserts of 1000's of years (unknown lengths of time) stuck into the timeline by the reader.. a truly easter-bunny like action not at all approved of in scripture

Hi BobRyan,

You are seeing things, bro, the easterbunny! Really, Santa Claus is next.

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You inserted 2300 years inside the 70 weeks (490 years) of Daniel 9? seriously??

Or you are inserting 2300 days inside the 490 days of Daniel 9.. which is it??
 
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Hi Marilyn,

God has been doing for Israel what He has been doing for the entire human race since Calvary.

Drawing them to Himself by the thousands.

From Jewish Christian - Wikipedia :

"The 19th century saw at least 250,000 Jews convert to Christianity according to existing records of various societies.[144] Data from the Pew Research Center has it that, as of 2013, about 1.6 million adult American Jews identify themselves as Christians, most as Protestants.[145][146][147] According to the same data, most of the Jews who identify themselves as some sort of Christian (1.6 million) were raised as Jews or are Jews by ancestry.[146] According to a 2012 study, 17% of Jews in Russia identify themselves as Christians.[148][149]"

"Soon" began at Pentecost and has never ceased.

Hi jgr,

Yes there are Jews and Gentiles in the Body of Christ, however God has not as yet outworked atonement for the nation of Israel, as He said to Daniel - `your people and your holy city.` (Dan. 9: 24) And we haven`t seen that yet.

Marilyn.
 
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Hi jgr,

Yes there are Jews and Gentiles in the Body of Christ, however God has not as yet outworked atonement for the nation of Israel, as He said to Daniel - `your people and your holy city.` (Dan. 9: 24) And we haven`t seen that yet.

Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn,

What does "outworked atonement" mean?
 
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You inserted 2300 years inside the 70 weeks (490 years) of Daniel 9? seriously??
Or you are inserting 2300 days inside the 490 days of Daniel 9.. which is it??

Hi BobRyan,

You do err, Bob.

God always explains Himself and it is not for us to change what He says. You say `2300 years, where God`s word says 2,300 DAYS.
Then you say 490 days, whereas God says 70 x 7 weeks, = 490 YEARS.

If you read carefully Daniel 9: 24 - 27 you will see that the first measurement reveals what the `weeks` represents.
`...from the going forth of the command to restore and build Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks, the street shall be built again and the wall...` (Da. 9: 25)

`seven weeks`
weeks - unit of seven, and that reveals SEVEN YEARS from the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

Thus the 70 x 7 weeks are 70 x 7 years = 490 years.
 
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Hi Marilyn,

What does "outworked atonement" mean?

Hi jgr,

Let`s see what God says -

`Rejoice, O gentiles, with His people, for He will avenge the blood of His servants, and render vengeance to His adversaries; He will provide atonement for His LAND and His PEOPLE.` (Deut. 32: 43)

We both know that the Lord paid the price for sin upon the cross. That is one aspect of atonement. Then there is the `avenging & vengeance,` upon His adversaries to accomplish.

Redemption for the nation of Israel, (an earthly nation) involves the payment for their national rebellion, plus the outing of the enemies who have `divided up my land, etc` (Joel 3: 2)

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Why are you attempting to ignore Hebrews 10:16-18, and Acts of the Apostles 10:38?


Hi BABerean,

You seem to have forgotten that God has yet to fulfil that covenant with the nation of Israel.

`Rejoice, O gentiles, with His people, for He will avenge the blood of His servants, and render vengeance to His adversaries; He will provide atonement for His LAND and His PEOPLE.` (Deut. 32: 43)

`For behold, in those days and at that time, when I bring back the captives of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and bring them down to the Valley of Jehoshaphat; and I will enter into judgment with them there on account of my people, my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; they have also divided up my land...` (Joel 3: 1 & 2)

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Hi jgr,

Let`s see what God says -

`Rejoice, O gentiles, with His people, for He will avenge the blood of His servants, and render vengeance to His adversaries; He will provide atonement for His LAND and His PEOPLE.` (Deut. 32: 43)

We both know that the Lord paid the price for sin upon the cross. That is one aspect of atonement. Then there is the `avenging & vengeance,` upon His adversaries to accomplish.

Redemption for the nation of Israel, (an earthly nation) involves the payment for their national rebellion, plus the outing of the enemies who have `divided up my land, etc` (Joel 3: 2)

Marilyn.

Hi Marilyn,

There is nothing in the Scriptural definition of atonement that includes "avenging & vengeance" or "outing of the enemies".

Here's what God says:

Romans 5:11
And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

We who have received Christ (Paul, a Jew, includes himself) have received His atonement.

So has every Jew and Gentile who has received Him.

Nothing to do with "avenging & vengeance" or "outing of the enemies".
 
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4. MESSIAH WAS TO BE CUT OFF. The 69 weeks (7 plus 62) were to measure unto Messiah "and AFTER" the 69 weeks "shall Messiah be cut off." Now "AFTER" 69 weeks does not and cannot mean "in" or "during" the 69 weeks! If Messiah was to be cut off AFTER the 69 weeks, there is only one week left in which he could have been "cut off"-the 70th week! -after three and a half years of ministry.
jgr,

the text does not say until the messiah is anointed. It says unto the Messiah the Prince.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Jesus arrived in Jerusalem hailed as the King of Israel, riding the donkey, in John 12:12-15. Which would be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks.

4 days later he was crucified, cutoff, to meet the after 469 weeks requirement.

So you could say in the 70th week, but it doesn't mean in the middle of the 70th week.
 
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jgr,

the text does not say until the messiah is anointed. It says unto the Messiah the Prince.

25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

Jesus arrived in Jerusalem hailed as the King of Israel, riding the donkey, in John 12:12-15. Which would be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks.

4 days later he was crucified, cutoff, to meet the after 469 weeks requirement.

So you could say in the 70th week, but it doesn't mean in the middle of the 70th week.

Douggg,

Messiah always was a Prince. (Isaiah 9:6; Acts 3:15; Revelation 1:5).
 
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Douggg,

Messiah always was a Prince. (Isaiah 9:6; Acts 3:15; Revelation 1:5).
When Jesus was on the cross, the scribes and pharisees mocked Him.

Mark 15:31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.

32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

The prince who shall come - from north and west of Israel, Daniel 8:9, leader of the fourth kingdom in the end times, Daniel 7:23-24, will be the little horn person. Who will be anointed the the King of Israel, instead of and against Jesus the rightful King of Israel.
 
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When Jesus was on the cross, the scribes and pharisees mocked Him.

Mark 15:31 Likewise also the chief priests mocking said among themselves with the scribes, He saved others; himself he cannot save.

32 Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him.

The prince who shall come - from north and west of Israel, Daniel 8:9, leader of the fourth kingdom in the end times, Daniel 7:23-24, will be the little horn person. Who will be anointed the the King of Israel, instead of and against Jesus the rightful King of Israel.

He always was, is, and will be a Prince.
 
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You seem to have forgotten that God has yet to fulfil that covenant with the nation of Israel.

Either you are confused, or the author of the Book of Hebrews is confused in the passage found below.

Notice the word "now" in the passage.

Also notice that the author quoted word-for-word the Old Testament promise from Jeremiah 31:31-34

Heb 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. (Written in the present tense during the first century.)
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Heb 8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "BEHOLD, THE DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH—
Heb 8:9 NOT ACCORDING TO THE COVENANT THAT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS IN THE DAY WHEN I TOOK THEM BY THE HAND TO LEAD THEM OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT; BECAUSE THEY DID NOT CONTINUE IN MY COVENANT, AND I DISREGARDED THEM, SAYS THE LORD.
Heb 8:10 FOR THIS IS THE COVENANT THAT I WILL MAKE WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AFTER THOSE DAYS, SAYS THE LORD: I WILL PUT MY LAWS IN THEIR MIND AND WRITE THEM ON THEIR HEARTS; AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE.
Heb 8:11 NONE OF THEM SHALL TEACH HIS NEIGHBOR, AND NONE HIS BROTHER, SAYING, 'KNOW THE LORD,' FOR ALL SHALL KNOW ME, FROM THE LEAST OF THEM TO THE GREATEST OF THEM.
Heb 8:12 FOR I WILL BE MERCIFUL TO THEIR UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND THEIR SINS AND THEIR LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE."
Heb 8:13 In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

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He always was, is, and will be a Prince.
Jesus also has to be acknowledged by Jerusalem and the Jews as the King of Israel who comes in the name of the Lord.

Matthew 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Earlier in the passover week, Jesus rode into Jerusalem riding the donkey. Hailed by his followers as the King of Israel who comes in the name of the Lord.

John 12:
12 On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem,

13 Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord.

14 And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon; as it is written,

15 Fear not, daughter of Sion: behold, thy King cometh, sitting on an ass's colt.

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John 5:
43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

That person will be the prince who shall come (from the people who destroyed the temple and city), in Daniel 9:26, the end times little horn, Daniel 7-8, who will be anointed the King of Israel, instead of and against (Anti) Jesus the Christ, the rightful King of Israel who comes in the name of the Lord.
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The person will also be descended from David, but is likened to as being an abominable branch, Isaiah 14:19-20.

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.
 
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