hello. i am 49 year old man. i always loved God my whole life in spite of having little blessings.

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then i had a fabulous blessing, a way to make a living for rest of my life and God totally jynxed it in everyday imaginable. the most unbelievable curse/bad luck to leave me financially ruined for the long run.

it really made me doubt everything, i feel double crossed, all that false hope, like it all seems like an evil delusion, a deception now, when you are horribly betrayed at the end of it all, after having faith for so long and recieving nothing good in return.

are we just fools for believing this stuff???

I know there's lots of rich christians. i go to the rich churches and there are many many churches in the well to do areas. i guess God likes those people, he hates me though, cursed me to eventual poverty since i only have enough to last for awhile and it's hard for me to work,
 

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I know there's lots of rich christians. i go to the rich churches and there are many many churches in the well to do areas. i guess God likes those people, he hates me though, cursed me to eventual poverty since i only have enough to last for awhile and it's hard for me to work,

Read through the book of James 2:5 and James 5:1-6 notably. Therein lies a warning of what wealth can do. Do the best you can with what you've been given and always remember He loves you.

James 1:9 Believers in humble circumstances ought to take pride in their high position.
 
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Being rich and being blessed are not the same thing at all. Lots of rich people are miserable. The fool are the ones who trust in temporary things for their joy. Those who trust in God will be renewed even while they waste away physically.
 
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My friend, Our Lord does love you. He shed his blood for you. Him, completely innocent of all wrongdoing, took upon himself the task of dying the worst death imaginable for your sins, he deeply cares for you and wants you to be with him forever in eternal bliss. Remember also this my friend: Mathew 19: 21-24 "Jesus saith to him: If thou wilt be perfect, go sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come follow me. [22] And when the young man had heard this word, he went away sad: for he had great possessions. [23] Then Jesus said to his disciples: Amen, I say to you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. [24] And again I say to you: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven."
 
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then i had a fabulous blessing, a way to make a living for rest of my life and God totally jynxed it in everyday imaginable. the most unbelievable curse/bad luck to leave me financially ruined for the long run.

it really made me doubt everything, i feel double crossed, all that false hope, like it all seems like an evil delusion, a deception now, when you are horribly betrayed at the end of it all, after having faith for so long and recieving nothing good in return.

are we just fools for believing this stuff???

I know there's lots of rich christians. i go to the rich churches and there are many many churches in the well to do areas. i guess God likes those people, he hates me though, cursed me to eventual poverty since i only have enough to last for awhile and it's hard for me to work,


Greetings. If the Bible promised wealth and happiness in this life, you might have a case against God. But it doesn't do so. You actually see in the Bible faithful men like Job and Paul losing just about everything and living in misery, quite possibly much worse off than you are now. The Bible actually says "If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable." (1 Corinthians 15:19) If your faith and hope were in Christ to redeem you from sin to be His servant and to keep you from the wicked one's influence so that you can be a faithful overcomer before Him who inherits His kingdom after you finish your race, then you could and should rejoice that your financial troubles couldn't possibly keep you from that hope. Surrender to Christ in faith by coming into line with His purpose and adjusting your hope according to what God's goal of redemption in Christ is. That is your true need in light Judgment Day, eternity, and the overall deceitful nature of riches.

James 1:12-17: "12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren. 17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning."
 
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then i had a fabulous blessing, a way to make a living for rest of my life and God totally jynxed it in everyday imaginable. the most unbelievable curse/bad luck to leave me financially ruined for the long run.

it really made me doubt everything, i feel double crossed, all that false hope, like it all seems like an evil delusion, a deception now, when you are horribly betrayed at the end of it all, after having faith for so long and recieving nothing good in return.

are we just fools for believing this stuff???

I know there's lots of rich christians. i go to the rich churches and there are many many churches in the well to do areas. i guess God likes those people, he hates me though, cursed me to eventual poverty since i only have enough to last for awhile and it's hard for me to work,

Note also the promise in verse 33 below, its scope, and the conditions we must meet to obtain it.

Matthew 6:24-34: "24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
25 Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? 26 Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? 27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? 28 And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: 29 And yet I say unto you, That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? 31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? 32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek: for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things) 33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. 34 Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."
 
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then i had a fabulous blessing, a way to make a living for rest of my life and God totally jynxed it in everyday imaginable. the most unbelievable curse/bad luck to leave me financially ruined for the long run.

it really made me doubt everything, i feel double crossed, all that false hope, like it all seems like an evil delusion, a deception now, when you are horribly betrayed at the end of it all, after having faith for so long and recieving nothing good in return.

are we just fools for believing this stuff???

I know there's lots of rich christians. i go to the rich churches and there are many many churches in the well to do areas. i guess God likes those people, he hates me though, cursed me to eventual poverty since i only have enough to last for awhile and it's hard for me to work,
God never lies. He is Truth. I fell for the "prosperity" gospel. All I got was broke and I had a wife and 4 kids. God did not do that to me. I did it to myself.

I had another incident where I thought that my life was made, not financially but in other ways. I discovered that I was deceived. That was a really hard time. I blamed God for that too. It took a while, but I came to see that I'd taken a whole of lot things the wrong way and believed a lie.

Don't be deceived by the outward appearance of supposedly rich Christians. God is not a robot where you can spout Bible verses, give a few bucks and watch the money roll in. I've tried Amway, nothing. Commission sales. No. Think "Seek the Kingdom of God and His righteousness." When that became my attitude for life, God's blessings began to flow. Mostly it was through my job, but there was miraculous supply as well.

God is looking for people who will depend on Him 100%. In everything. He will bring you to that place if you ask Him. Don't try to logic it all out. You'll get more confused. Satan is trying to destroy you. God wants you to be blessed. He loves you enough to send Jesus to die in your place. Love does not get better than that.
 
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I know there's lots of rich christians. i go to the rich churches and there are many many churches in the well to do areas. i guess God likes those people, he hates me though, cursed me to eventual poverty since i only have enough to last for awhile and it's hard for me to work,

Ask God what is hindering this financial blessing in your life. It could be that this is not your time yet. It could also be that He is testing your faith. He will provide what you need.
 
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If you have followed God for the length of time you stated why do you blame Him for your hardship? What benefit does He have in your suffering? The calamity people experience is usually of their own making or Satan’s.

You should consider the possibility the idea didn’t hail from Him or you have undertaken something out of season. You’ll need much prayer to discern which is true.

Wealth brings a host of problems. Namely, jealousy, envy, exploitation, and scorn from other Christians. That does not include the individual’s failings.
 
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then i had a fabulous blessing, a way to make a living for rest of my life and God totally jynxed it in everyday imaginable. the most unbelievable curse/bad luck to leave me financially ruined for the long run.

None of us can tell just what in the Spirit realm really happened to you. I will say this though. Have you ever heard of Joseph in the Old Testament. Sold into slavery, put into prison. Are you saying his state didn't look bleak? Are you in prison right now like he was? I'm guessing not. And what about Job? You've said you're ruined in the long run financially? Really? So again what about Job? His wealth left him like a snowball on a hot sunny day. Did it stay that way? Yes? No? No of course. Read the last chapter of Job to see if he had lost everything in the long run. Nope! Doesn't look that way,

After Job had prayed for his friends, the Lord restored his fortunes and gave him twice as much as he had before. All his brothers and sisters and everyone who had known him before came and ate with him in his house. They comforted and consoled him over all the trouble the Lord had brought on him, and each one gave him a piece of silver and a gold ring.The Lord blessed the latter part of Job’s life more than the former part. He had fourteen thousand sheep, six thousand camels, a thousand yoke of oxen and a thousand donkeys. And he also had seven sons and three daughters. The first daughter he named Jemimah, the second Keziah and the third Keren-Happuch. Nowhere in all the land were there found women as beautiful as Job’s daughters, and their father granted them an inheritance along with their brothers. After this, Job lived a hundred and forty years; he saw his children and their children to the fourth generation. And so Job died, an old man and full of years. Job 42:10,17

it really made me doubt everything, i feel double crossed,

Job's wife felt that way. Job 2:9 Job chose not to cave into accepting such a mental state. You can see above his end result.
 
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I agree with what previous posters have said.
I think Jesus made it perfectly clear when He said that it was easier for a camel to pass through a needle than a rich man to enter heaven.
I do think there are few Christians who are rich financially (yes some, but few) because what usually happens that being still sinners as we are, we start to rely on riches and with riches comes much worry and the tendency to rely more on them than God.
And it would be hard to be rich and see all the need around and keep it to oneself.

That being said we are blessed with true riches that never perish: salvation. And a God who is always with us through the valleys and the highs of life: and He never leaves or forsakes us.
What could we ever want for when we have Him?
God bless you with His love:)
 
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Matthew 13:18-23 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower. When any one hears the word of the kingdom & understands it not, then comes the wicked one & catches away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.

20But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that hears the word & anon with joy receives it; 21Yet has he NO ROOT in himself, but endures for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, by & by he is OFFENDED (STUMBLES & FALLS AWAY).

22He also that received seed among the thorns is he that hears the word; & the care of this world & THE DECEITFULNESS OF RICHES CHOKE THE WORD & he becomes UNFRUITFUL.

23But he that received seed into the good ground is he that hears the word, & UNDERSTANDS it; which also bears fruit & brings forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.

Luke 8:9-15 And when his disciples asked him what this parable meant, he said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that ‘seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’

11Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God. The ones along the path are those who have heard; then the devil comes & takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may NOT BELIEVE & BE SAVED.

13And the ones on the rock are those who, when they hear the word, receive it with joy. But these have NO ROOT; they believe FOR AWHILE & in time of testing fall away.

14And as for what fell among the thorns, they are those who hear, but as they go on their way they are CHOKED BY THE CARES & RICHES & PLEASURES OF LIFE & their fruit does NOT mature. 15As for that in the good soil, they are those who, hearing the word, hold it fast in an honest and good heart & bear fruit WITH PATIENCE.
 
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I do agree that in America - not having enough money makes a person feel like they missed the boat. Especially when there are lots of well off people around us. I feel like that when I am between jobs. The question is - does money really buy happiness? Does it bring joy?
I always think back to Christ talking about the abundant life and asking myself what He meant by that. I am sure He was not talking about material abundance - although He does want to take care of our needs. He teaches us to ask/pray for our daily bread. Beyond that - He wants to give us Spiritual abundance - a meaningful, purposeful, joyful, and eternal life in Him. He promises Treasures in Heaven - 100's of times more than what we give up on earth.
I think about how we all have the opportunity to be Rich - Rich towards God. We can all be used for His Glory in reaching others for the kingdom. We can be rich in enthusiasm and encouragement - with the power of His Spirit. That is really the abundant life that I think we should all be seeking.
God Bless! Prayers that your time of testing would soon be a great testimony!
 
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